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Kisaki Drama 2k18
Aoi_Michaelis and 6 others reacted to cvltic for a post in a topic
All the photos prove (granted by my own interpretation) is 1. the woman definitely knew and had some sort of relationship with Kisaki thatw ent wrong, 2. that the woman was definitely injured, 3. that Kisaki at the very least doesn't know how to handle a child/respect a child's physical boundaries, 4. that Riku doesn't trust Kisaki, and 5. that Kisaki ran some kind of Y!JA price-boosting scam. Many of these reflect really poorly on him anyway: 4 and 5 completely match his known behaviors, and the 3rd one is a big ass red flag that would seriously worry me even if the other allegations were somehow proven 100% false tomorrow. But there is still room for being critical of the claims as they've been presented without assuming that anyone doing so is caping for Kisaki/bandmen everywhere so try to keep your heads screwed on when it comes to throwing around words like 'innocence'. I know there's a difference in the quality and detail of evidence provided. I also know that Kisaki is a proven dickhead with a literal rap sheet and that people will understandably weigh that into their judgments. But there are translated assault/rape allegations ostensibly from multiple people against Kyo & Daisuke in this same subforum that have been treated with kid gloves comparatively. I have my own assumptions about Kisaki's guilt like anyone else but it's been annoying me to see not strictly MH members, but off-site people who have jumped on this story as undeniable fact but also decrying tanuki/anonymous sources when it comes to bandmen they actually like because ???. Unless this manifests as an arrest or court case, I'm leaning towards thinking the woman deleted the account because of tanuki scrutiny or regret for posting the pictures of the child. A lot of the posts I read were quite harsh on the mother for taking pictures of her kid looking distressed, and for posting them on social media. I'd also seen some throwaway accounts reply to to her last tweet about deleting the pictures of the kid and criticizing her for originally only deleting a portion. ^^ @Chi I was just searching and a user posted a DM convo they had with the account OP who said that multiple people supposedly helped report him and also said she believes it will lead to an arrest. I hope she's right and that it does go to a court... -
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Kisaki Drama 2k18
niivozombie and 6 others reacted to platy for a post in a topic
I'm half and half with this. I'm sure there are people who would love to bring Kisaki down and bandmen are surrounded by women as malicious as them sometimes. But on the other hand, Kisaki has shown over and over that he's scum and I don't wanna doubt the pictures and accusations, especially when Japan's credibility on women who need help in abusive situations is minuscule. I'm more on her side and hope there can be an investigation and she and the kid can get help and go as far away from him as possible. -
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Moi dix Mois presents, "Deep Sanctuary VI ~MALICE MIZER 25th~ Anniversary Special"
Egnirys cimredopyh and 5 others reacted to Yukami for a post in a topic
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Kisaki Drama 2k18
niivozombie and 5 others reacted to sixblacknine for a post in a topic
It's worrying to me that some peoples first thought is 'oh noh muh music!!!!!' do you not have any sympathy for this little girl?? or her mother? or any other people he's mistreated?? I've always hated Kisaki, thought he was an overdramatic attention seeker; but knowing he does this is shocking he's disgusting and I hope he rots in prison. -
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Kisaki Drama 2k18
Chikage and 5 others reacted to cvltic for a post in a topic
Development: The account was deleted. Not really surprising considering the seriousness of the allegations, the amount of tanuki attention it attracted and the fact that the police are reportedly involved. I might screencap the archive I saved of the account for posterity? -
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Kisaki Drama 2k18
psychonnect_rozen and 4 others reacted to cvltic for a post in a topic
(Thank you to @ricchubunny for posting about this in a status, which led to @Chi linking it to me!) An account on Twitter, @KISAKI54175241, has begun to make some fairly serious claims against Kisaki, so here we are in the rumors section yet again. At the time of this posting the account has 66 tweets and multiple images. I saved an archive of the page at it is at this moment in case anything happens to it, so please let me know and I will post that somewhere. Disclaimer: What follows is a translation of allegations made by twitter user KISAKI54175241. I neither endorse nor deny any of the claims made below, and I made a conscious effort to avoid sensationalizing anything in my translations... If you have any questions or feedback in that regard please let me know. More importantly some of the content below is disturbing. There are mentions of domestic violence and child sexual abuse. Please read at your own discretion or skip to the summary below if you would like to know what happened without getting into explicit detail. KISAKI54175241's posts (oldest to newest, although sometimes self-retweets that reordered her twitter timeline will cause discrepancies) The translation as the account stands at 2:28 PM -6:00 GMT is complete. This picture provided by @colorfuljinsei (originally from Kisaki's official twitter?) can serve as a tattoo placement/design reference if you would like to do any comparisons. In summary, Kisaki has been accused of: -Inappropriate sexual contact with a young child -Domestic violence -Being a habitual benzo seeker/user -Being suicidal and using this as a manipulation tactic -Astroturfing tanuki, working to have critical articles and twitters suspended Allegedly, these matters have been brought to police. -
5 pointsLiterally just now hearing about rape allegations towards Kyo and Daisuke, but I do remember someone talking about a select group of dudes (Kyo, Daisuke, Tatsurou, a few others) that participated in questionable behavior. But there’s no doubt people just have it out for Kisaki. Of course his tax evasion bullshit and overall garbage approach to making money warrants the negative attention. But a few months back there was a “bad boys of VK poll/thread” and last I remember Kisaki was coming out on top over dudes that assaulted women. At the time, all we knew was about Kisaki’s poor business practices, but somehow he was getting more bad boy votes than Wataru, a guy that straight up fucking choked a woman. That has to be a case of serious blind fanaticism when assualt doesn’t register on your radar.
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Kisaki Drama 2k18
Chikage and 4 others reacted to Tokage for a post in a topic
people are willing to stoop to surprising levels of selective obliviousness when it comes to defending their kawaii jrockers -
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Kisaki Drama 2k18
Chikage and 4 others reacted to Tokage for a post in a topic
think about this: if this al turns out to be legit, there -must- be some artists or people who have worked closely with Kisaki in some form who actually knew about this shit to some extent, i don't feel like it's the kind of thing that would just be easy to hide -
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Kisaki Drama 2k18
Chikage and 4 others reacted to The Moon for a post in a topic
this is so fucking disgusting. those pictures are horrifying. my heart breaks for the child & her mother who got caught up in kisaki's abuse. i hope she gets justice. -
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ラヴェーゼ (Labaiser) new album "Folklore" release
Kathy and 3 others reacted to The Piass for a post in a topic
The bassist 大和-yamato- has joined the band as of 2018.09.11. https://lineblog.me/labaiser/archives/1261186.html His Twitter : https://twitter.com/yamato_LABAISER -
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Kisaki Drama 2k18
Chikage and 3 others reacted to Masato for a post in a topic
Kudos for the mother finally stepping up for her child! I really don't get how you can let other people do this to a child.... -
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Kisaki Drama 2k18
Reiko and 2 others reacted to Peace Heavy mk II for a post in a topic
Pulling this quote out for emphasis. Something like what is described in this thread, as well as the various other ones mentioned above, are horrible and should be treated with the same amount of outrage regardless of who did it. It's unfortunate that a scene that could allow for so much creativity and expression, both visually and audibly, attracts all sorts of scummy people because the target audience is vulnerable and impressionable. -
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Kisaki Drama 2k18
Serox and 2 others reacted to Peace Heavy mk II for a post in a topic
Considering a lot of his old bandmates / friends don't ever seem to hang out or work with him anymore (any member of Lin that wasn't Riku, D, any member of Phantasmagoria + Kisaki project (Jun didn't even do anything for UCP closing, nor did JUI iirc), and Diru / Merry just pretend they were never involved with him ever), it makes me wonder if this was all a sort of secret thing people found out about after they were already involved with him professionally + contractually, and how much of it is either ignored or played down (e.g.: Rame and Riku working with him, defending him on Twitter, or providing him gigs, etc). My guess is that the guys in Mirage and the various big-name support members they, and at some point Lin + a couple other Kisaki sessions, got (like Shazna's guitarist and Kuroyume's guitarist and bassist) probably didn't really speak with him much since the mid-90's and might not have known he was that bad, but going forward they and no one else would not, and should not, want anything to do with him. -
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Kisaki Drama 2k18
Silverhawk33 and 2 others reacted to Lestat for a post in a topic
I am aware that you are referring to me, but why do you want my opinion so badly? What exactly do you want me to say that will rile up your sensationalism about this? I’m not going to speak of the subject because I am emotionally drained about this enough as we speak. Please keep these jokes in your thoughts, I’ll just have none of them. -
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Kisaki Drama 2k18
SadMoomin and 2 others reacted to The Piass for a post in a topic
He was to appear on 2018.11.17 at 目黒鹿鳴館 (Meguro Rokumeikan) but it was cancelled. -
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Kisaki Drama 2k18
herpes and 2 others reacted to nekkichi for a post in a topic
^ you're riiiiigghhhhhtttttt of course, but at the same time idt anyone expects this situation to de-escalate from now (I know who does expect that exactly and God knows how many papercranes they're gonna be folding while fresh tea arrives because I don't see their opinion on the subject yet.) also somewhat off-the-topic but how/where do you get a fun benzo RX in japan, Ksk is clearly not in the income bracket to afford smuggled xan -
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Kisaki Drama 2k18
Chikage and 2 others reacted to cvltic for a post in a topic
https://imgur.com/a/Xroy0eN Here's an album with some pictures that were deleted before I ever saw the account but collected from tanuki. One of them is a capture of a quote tweet where the 🐔🐔鶏肉てゃん🐔🐔 @_Lv114514_ 20h asks "Isn't she laughing?" in response to a pic of the child inside of a large storage container. The KISAKI暴露 @KISAKI54175241 tweet quoted says "The crying child was also forcibly trapped in his costume case". I also included screencaps from the original twitter feed as it was when I did the original translation, minus a few of the beginning tweets because I fucked up my screencaps (oops). -
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Kisaki Drama 2k18
Anne Claire and 2 others reacted to suji for a post in a topic
^ yessss thank you so much for this @cvltic 🙌 your work is definitely appreciated! 👍 -
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Kisaki Drama 2k18
desparejo86 and 2 others reacted to Karma’s Hat for a post in a topic
In a way Kisaki is the ultimate bandman constantly hustling abuses both women and children betraying bandmates evading taxes breaks the law been around for way too long and there's no signs of him stopping -
3 pointsNew Look 25th Anniversary Mana Közi Yu~ki
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2 points"dark fantasy storyteller" Asagi is shaking
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Kisaki Drama 2k18
Chikage and one other reacted to jaymee for a post in a topic
Every time I think Kisaki has reached peak shitty person level, he sets the bar a little higher. This time, much higher ugh. Also re: having this woman list CDs/merch for him, could she have been the one selling behind that Yahoo!Auction acct that was selling rarez from his previous bands re: that whole conspiracy thing? -
2 pointsThe bassist is Ba.大和-yamato- (ex-Noize knot(遥-haruka-)-->VAN9ISH(弓月-yuzuki-)) that previously was his support.
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8P-SB
Karma’s Hat and one other reacted to Komorebi for a post in a topic
'K, so my friend went to one of their lives and still has to give me a full report, but she says it's not something she wants to see again. It appears this whole project live is mostly based on weird MCs, fanservicing of some sorts and Genki's pretty awkward the whole time. The new songs are nothing special, nothing new, same genre as what we've already heard. They weren't bad per se, according to her. She was a HUGE Mejibray stan and even she admits that following this just because it's Koichi and Genki is a waste of time. I'm still waiting for a full report from her. -
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Kisaki Drama 2k18
Komorebi and one other reacted to suji for a post in a topic
Keep the dragging to just Kisaki please. I don't want to have to give out warnings because of this topic. -
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Kisaki Drama 2k18
suji and one other reacted to Komorebi for a post in a topic
This is sickening... and not in the good way. I hope he finally gets what he deserves, for the little girl's sake. -
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Kisaki Drama 2k18
Chikage and one other reacted to Karma’s Hat for a post in a topic
Went google translatin' on his twitter and there's already mentions of pedophilia and retirement by the japanese leaving tweets, so even if this woman drops charges and disappears as they often do in the west, Kisaki is still most likely more or less finished in the biz. Then again even Woody Allen and Polanski are still around so who knows what really matters to me tho are all the pedo puns I can make with phantasmagoria songs !! -
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Kisaki Drama 2k18
SadMoomin and one other reacted to sixblacknine for a post in a topic
You can look at those photos and think he's innocent?? 🤔 -
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Scarlet Valse new mini-album "Legendary Place" release
SHOKI and one other reacted to Shaolan974 for a post in a topic
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Kisaki Drama 2k18
Zeus and one other reacted to fitear1590 for a post in a topic
Thanks for archiving and translating this, cvltic. -
2 pointsnowhere in the post it says any of that. the OP says shes trying to get police to do something about it.
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Glad to be back!
K-x-H and one other reacted to raspberrynilla for a post in a topic
Hello! I've been a fan of Visual Kei for more than 10 years now. My love for Visual Kei really started with Alice Nine. They were my favorite band for the majority of my teen years, I even had a Twitter account simply dedicated to them (@AliceNineWorld for anyone that might remember!). I would also try to discover new bands daily, listen to VK 24/7 and just emerge myself in anything Visual Kei. However back in 2014, my interest for it just slowly started to fade and left the scene all together. I just felt Iike major bands were experimenting with sounds I did not enjoy and newer bands all sounded the same to me. You could say VK died for me that year. But occasionally, I would go back and check up on bands that I still had some interest in, such as Dir en Grey, Diaura, BUCK-TICK, and sometimes A9. Fortunately, this summer my love for Visual Kei resurged once again. Coming back into it and trying to catch up with everything I missed in the past four years has been overwhelming haha. The amount of older bands that have disbanded has come as a complete shock, but the newer bands that are starting out have seriously brought in new life to Visual Kei that I personally think really needed. In my opinion, I think we might be reaching a renaissance of Visual Kei, and that absolutely excites me! All in all, I joined this forum because I wanted to be part of a community in which I could keep up with news and talk with other fellow fans. Visual Kei has always been a huge part of my life growing up, so coming back into it almost feels like coming back home. -
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DIR EN GREY released their 10th album "The Insulated World" on September 26, 2018
Envelion and one other reacted to Saishu for a post in a topic
The Truth come out. Does Life is Pain? -
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Kisaki Drama 2k18
niivozombie and one other reacted to saishuu for a post in a topic
well, the authorities still have to take the word of a WOMAN and we all know how that goes in most cases, so I wouldn't be certain about that... -
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8P-SB
Cereal Killer 13 and one other reacted to Karma’s Hat for a post in a topic
You can only see tzk's back because they can't show that he's crying -
1 pointYah~ Hopefully the songs will be good as their 1st release.
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1 pointI have been told that the second day of the event has been completely filmed, I hope it is for a DVD.
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1 pointwell that was fun while it lasted Anyway in all seriousness, hope that bastard finally gets what he deserves. Fuck him.
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Kisaki Drama 2k18
Chikage reacted to Hohchicano96 for a post in a topic
When I opened this post about an hour ago, I expected a kettle of piping hot tea on Kisaki's recurring financial tomfoolery and musical misadventures. I was proven otherwise. If the allegations are proven to be true (with this much evidence and photographs, how could it not), there is no chance of redemption for this absolute scumbag of a person. P.S. I wonder if the recent cancellation of the upcoming Phantasmagoria compilation album was Kisaki's way of funding himself to hire a reputable defense attorney in case any information surfaces on the internet. -
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Dir en grey
emmny reacted to Hohchicano96 for a post in a topic
We've got to canonize Shinya for being the true savior of this band; get your prayer candles ready for Our Good Sis of Drums and Makeup~ -
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Screaming inside can kill. / Sick. will split into 2 bands --> will disband
suji reacted to patientZERO for a post in a topic
Ayabie? -
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KISAKI is being exposed for abusing of children and atacking a woman. TRASH https://t
nick reacted to ricchubunny for a status update
KISAKI is being exposed for abusing of children and atacking a woman. TRASH https://twitter.com/KISAKI54175241 -
1 point6 years of searching and I finally found a first press copy of D'espairsRay Kumo.
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1 pointI hope their music is better than that logo!
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Crystal Lake new maxi-single "THE CIRCLE" release
Yuri reacted to Shaolan974 for a post in a topic
Crystal Lake new maxi-single "THE CIRCLE" will be released at 2018/08/08 [tracklist] 01. THE CIRCLE(feat.Masato of coldrain) 02. Lost In Forever(feat.Daniel McWhorter and Tyler Riley of Gideon) 03. True North - remix by EUPHORIC WAVISM -
1 pointSurprised they're still able to play the Dome, let alone two days.
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Post your "UNPOPULAR" music opinions!
monkeybanana4 reacted to Zeus for a post in a topic
Since I can't stand the Mejibray/GazettE-stanning that's taken over this topic and has gotten away from the original intent, I'm bringing it back. I'm also giving you all something new to talk about since new unpopular opinions have ceased to surface over the last page or so. Visual kei is not a genre or an aesthetic movement. It's a paradoxical manifestation of an anomaly against the negatives of Japanese culture. This is closely related to the problem of "what is visual kei?". Stolen shamelessly from Wikipedia, a genre is defined as We can stop right here. Before you start processing the definition, ask yourself "what is visual kei"? We can have a ten page discussion about that in this topic right now and still not come to a consensus. Visual kei is an open-ended, ill-defined term exploited by both us and the bands in the scene to refer to whatever we please. We agree to disagree on what the term is supposed to mean and take it at face value when someone tells us that a band is or isn't visual kei anymore. By definition, visual kei can't be a genre because we can only define it by what it is not, and very conservatively at that. The difference between newbies and veterans in the scene mostly comes down to context sensitivity determining band classification. What do I mean by this? Well, we can all look at a band or an idol group and very clearly say "this is not visual kei". But if we look at a visual kei band next to a band that uses theatrical make-up and aesthetic elements, we get into murky territory. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. Newbies lack the knowledge to make this distinction, and utilize only the looks to say whether or not a band is visual. Then, they get lashed upon by fans of that band who "don't want to associate this band with those bands" for getting it wrong, and they learn. Eventually they learn only to label a band as visual kei if they describe themselves as such or if someone else before them says it first. [1] The thing is, the newbies have the right approach at first. They get into the scene, they hear that it's a genre, and seek to classify it. But before long they realize that over the span of twenty years, visual kei has birthed bands that sound very, very different. Going off of sound alone, all bands that were ever considered visual kei can't be connected short of a definition so vague it's useless. So then we turn to the costumes and theatrics and claim that as a large component of what makes a band visual. But even there, we can piece together different bands that don't look anything alike - some bands which don't look remotely visual at all - and claim they are all visual kei. Hell, lynch. has looked like a normal band for quite some time and there's still a heated debate to whether or not they're visual kei. On the first page of this very topic, one of the unpopular opinions was that "Dir en grey is still visual". Once again, you now have bands that have very little in common aesthetic wise and short of a very vague, useless definition we have nothing to go off of. So I've basically run through this problem, haven't given a solution and haven't explained my point (or have I?). What gives? Well as a fandom we tend to separate visual kei bands based on decades, so let's do that: - The mysterious late 80's, which most of us like to pretend doesn't exist, full of bands that play some form of rock or metal. - The music of the 90's, which is usually thought of as bands inspired by Victorian and goth costumes playing...well, whatever they want. - The 00's, which was populated by lots of flashy costumes, usually subdivided into subkeis to better be able to classify and understand bands but still full of bands playing whatever they want. - The 10's, which seems to have a preponderance of electronic elements in the music but for the most part still full of plenty of different bands playing whatever they please. And even here we tend to simplify this as to "80s HAIR METAL, 90'S GOFF MUZIK, 00'S KEI ON KEI ACTION/RAWRCORE, 10'S WUB-WUBCORE", which illustrates the points I made above. As a fan, you get to a point where you realize that the term can't be defined and thus you stop. The working definition is "If a band wants to be visual kei, they'll be visual kei. When they don't, they're no longer visual kei". [2] So doesn't this describe a movement, which brings together people just as different for a common cause? Let's go through all of the things that should make a movement and see if it lines up. Well let's see: - Coordinated group action. Well, visual kei isn't very rebellious or subversive, outside of the low barrier to entry being offensive to some people's ears and the costumes being offensive to some people's eyes. Unless there is this entire "point" they all share that we've missed for forever and a day, I believe that most bands focus on staying functional over staying Stallman-esque in their beliefs. [3] And frankly, I can't blame them. Pragmatism rules. [4] - A common cause. But what is that cause and do all bands share it? As I said above, we really don't think of visual kei as something as much as we do as an entity against something. But even that "entity" changes over time, reflected by the different forms of visual kei. So do the bands of the late 80's and the bands of today share the same goal? Yes and no. [5] - People from different walks of life. We can't say too much because we don't know the details of most musicians. Note however that on a macro scale most visual kei bands are Japanese and many tend to gravitate around a few cities on the mainland. We also can surmise that a lot of these musicians are poor or struggling. We also haven't seen the scene take root in any other countries with similar situations. In this sense, it represents a truly Japanese problem - disillusioned youth versus "The System". If it's a movement here, it's on a small scale. Visual kei is too anti-classification to be a genre and too inconclusive to be a movement. So what is it? My admittedly semantic description of visual kei is that of a paradoxical anomaly. It exists, full of people perpetuating it unaware of it's purpose, fighting against an issue that plagues the Japanese society whilst embodying almost every characteristic of that society. What is that issue? Well, I believe the issue lies in the extreme conformity and deference to authority found in the society, coupled with high expectations placed upon every member of that society, along with a thirty year recession that has stagnated the Japanese economy and makes it hard to achieve the life every Japanese person feels it is their duty to obtain. A strictly Japanese problem. [6] Visual kei exists as an antagonist to everything in that society, even definition, because it refuses to conform. It's piloted by people who know full they may never see success but toil anyway as a gigantic "FUCK YOU" to their society. It's also mostly populated by young people with the drive and ambition to change their surroundings but no means to achieve that change (and older people who exploit these young people for the cash they'll never see, bringing the entire scene into territory so meta it hurts). When those kids grow up and lose their drive, as after years of fighting against this nebulous problem they watch it shift into something new but no less harmful, they give up, slip into the routine, and become working salary men that can't be identified. It's an anomaly that just is, and that anomaly happens to make noise that we like to listen to. To pigeonhole visual kei into anything else misses the political and cultural significance that caused it's birth. tl;dr - Visual kei is the Japanese "hippie culture" of the 60's, with no Vietnam War in sight to bring it to an end. [7] Notes: Here I extrapolate on points that I wanted to make above and didn't because I didn't want to go on a tangent and not come back. [1] This is my personal belief behind why revival bands like Grieva and Ru:natic will never see a resurgence. The forms that visual kei took in the 90's was in resistance to the culture and expectations of the 90's. The world is an irreversibly different place and thus visual kei must change along with it. This is also why I believe that visual kei is not an aesthetic - the fashion world moves in cycles much shorter than 30 years. Visual kei hasn't repeated a phase to date. That's why I believe it supersedes such a definition. [2] Not only does this loose definition work but it reflects a lot of what I get into later in my argument. Most importantly, that it gives an element of control back to the band. I've read in multiple places that the Japanese populace don't feel like they have much choice - they must succeed in school, get into better schools, succeed there, get a good job, start a family, etc. - and then must face a wall of depression when they realize that most can't get to the head of the pack and they didn't. By sticking to this definition, bands can have a say in a core element which defines them. [3] Richard Stallman, founder of the GNU Project. Read up on him to see what ideals unbounded by pragmatism really is. Hint: it sounds like crazy. [4] When bands have no motivation or have run out of reasons to continue they sometimes disband for no reason. On the other side of that coin, some bands are so tight knit that they feel as if they can't function if a member leaves. But at the heart of it all, many bands don't put ideals and beliefs over success. Those that have them use them alongside the visuals and their music - and even then if it becomes too hard they quit or if they become successful they tone it down or cut it out completely. See, NoGoD. [5] Even more interestingly, visual kei itself tends to conform in ways, which subverts the point of the whole thing. It's like a military group led by a dictator attacking a dictatorial government for its evils. This is why I refrain from calling it a movement, because it itself embodies the very principles it seeks to combat. [6] Which is why "overseas visual kei" will never take off. The societal conditions are not right for it to spawn. YOHIO and Seremedy are second-order simulacra. [7] After WWII, Japan isn't allowed to have a real standing army so it isn't in it's best interest to get into conflicts. I meant it literally. In another sense, you could say that the counterculture of the 60's was against "The System" but manifested itself through the War. Once the War ended, the culture had little reason to exist. Since visual kei doesn't have such a clear cut enemy, it will continue on for much longer. This is also why visual kei can't "die".