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can't help but feel that this whole debate is much ado about nothing if you're living in japan and regularly go to lives then you're entitled to give your opinion on their lives. if you're an international fan who voraciously gobbles up all their releases (legally or not) then you're entitled to evaluate the quality of their recorded music. the problem only arises when this discussion bleeds into the neighboring terrain of 'how does one objectively judge a band's quality?' or 'what's the proper way of enjoying a band?'--which never fails to generate 5 pages of same old thing that impresses no one in particular... then there's the question of how much instrumental value you are actually of to the band, which is related but entirely separable from the first. it's def true that the actual impact of someone ordering a 3000 yen album from CDJapan on the band is probably a lot less than they think, but that doesn't reduce the weight of their opinion on the band's recorded music. critics all over the world are paid to do exactly that: to give their opinions while remaining pretty much monetarily irrelevant.

lmao you're literally sitting here implying people's opinions aren't credible because they aren't ~part of the scene~ and you don't seem to understand why they're getting salty with you? Here's the thing YOU seem confused about. You seem to be confusing "your consumption and interaction with the band are financially irrelevant" to "your opinion is irrelevant and no one should care about it." Let's, for a moment, humor whoever it was in this thread who said vk is "art." Here's the thing about art - once it's produced and released into the world, in whatever form it may be in, it's out of the artists' hands, and it becomes a matter of opinion and interpretation for whoever is consuming it in whatever manner they see fit. You don't get to sit here and tell people the ~correct~ way to consume it (i.e. attending lives in Japan) and you don't get to sit here and tell them their opinions are invalid because they're not consuming it in the way it was "intended" or in the way that is most financially profitable for the band. If Miley Cyrus owns literally thousands of hip hop CDs then I imagine she has her reasons for having her opinions, and while obviously no one is obligated to take her opinion seriously, that doesn't mean it's baseless. In fact, let's rework that last sentence in the context of this thread and see what happens: "It's kind of like [a foreign visual kei fan] wanting people to care about her opinion on [visual kei]. She's free to do so, but nobody's going to giving it much weight, irrelevant of how much she may or may not be a fan of [visual kei], how many CDs she owns, etc. because it's not based on anything credible."

There is one actually (first song is Agitato Grimoire)

I wonder if The Piass are producing it because it's just never happening?!?!?

Yumeleep is alson a clone of GRIMOIRE.

'Trash up' indeed lmao

hospital robe kei is real

is this hairstyle cool again? I see people wearing it.

single details [limited edition](CD+DVD) 2000yen tax out [CD] 1.Fallin' Night 2.VOICE [DVD] 「Fallin' Night」(MUSIC CLIP) [CD ONLY ] 1500yen tax out 1.Fallin' Night 2.VOICE 3.KARERU

Y'all suffering from PTSD over Satsuki really bad? YIKES. Can't relate. Maybe i'm reading this wrong but it's almost like y'all want this shit to be bad lmaooo First song sounds like it'll be pretty nice too but im still hella stoked for the second one.

SO MUCH DEBAUCHERY IN THIS TOPIC. How anyone can say Kousei (GHOST), Kirito (PIERROT), Sui (MEGAROMANIA, check out that vibrato, bro), Kouki (D=OUT), Tatsurou (MUCC), Shou (Alice Nine, he has improved tremendously since Givuss!) are bad!? *head explodes*

Ah okay. Good to know haha. I was kinda confused and didn't read every post about them tho. Thanks or the info.

Come at me again with that making fun of people with mental illness bullshit. I may be short as hell but I will drop kick a son of a bitch if need be. oh and for your information, I do as much work as you if we include al of my school and homework and side stuff. So don't make fun of me for working 32 hours a week while you work 60, cause if you would have READ you would've seen I do school as well, which adding everything up comes out to 60-62 hours a week. Bite me, bitch.

Of all those bands that makes the same song over and over again, MORRIGAN is the one that nails it better. Everything sounds just like the previous release, but it's all equally good, lol

Bob Dylan

OH GOD, THE LINEUP *-*

Trombe has briefly revived at 5/16 but has since disbanded again due to lost confidence in M-H

BUCK TICK tribute sessions will perform at the event, "武竹ショックツアー -2017-", at Neo Tokyo Ikebukuro Tegatana Dome on June 16. "武竹(TAKE-TICK)" members: Vo.想(sou) (emmuree, …。【サイレンス】(silence)) Gt.加納摩天楼(canou matenrou) (MUNIMUNI) Gt.星野ZULL彦 (…。【サイレンス】(silence)) Ba.松島ティル(matsushima till) (LAB.THE BASEMENT, Divitron) Dr.武井誠(takei makoto) (ex-cali≠gari) "チクチク" (TICK TICK) members: Vo.ガラ (gara) (MERRY) Gt.aie (the god and death stars, gibkiy gibkiy gibkiy, THE MADCAP LAUGHS) Gt.一也 (kazuya) (HOLLOWGRAM) Ba.kazu (the god and death stars, STEREO.C.K, DIMMDIVISION.) Dr.篤人 (atsuto) (eStrial)

If it's just the same Mama that's on Immortalis with Gara's voice pasted over it that'll be lame as fuck.

Yep. They don't care, and yes especially for indie bands, most of their income comes from lives/merch sales. Somehow people seem to confusing "in the big scheme of things your opinion doesn't really matter if you aren't a part of the scene" with "omg some elitist said I can't listen to/enjoy VK/ever have an opinion". It's kind of like Miley Cyrus wanting people to care about her opinion on hip hop. She's free to do so, but nobody's going to giving it much weight, irrelevant of how much she may or may not be a fan of hip hop, how many CDs she owns, etc. because it's not based on anything credible.

His one-coin single "琥珀の花" (Kohaku no Hana), will be released on 6/3. 収録曲: 1.琥珀の花 2.琥珀の花(Instrumental) 取り扱い:ライカエジソン東京店、ライカエジソン通販、オフィシャル通販

K, I decided to share some lossless quality amazingly rare VK from the late 90's. Gonna try to put it up tonight. Keep your eyes peeled!

DONT KNOW HOW MUCH THEY'LL CHARGE ME IN THE END. ...but i have just pre-ordered this. i couldnt "not" pre-order this .

S Q U I R T S

It's funny when nice people become hateful when they are with a hateful person. People feed off each other's personalities too much.

I guess Mama is going to be a Kyo/Gara duet. So many soaked fangirl panties.

tracklisting has been revealed. DISC-1 [Blu-spec CD2] 01. 擬似ネクロマンサー -giji necromancer- 02. グニャ結論。そして血眼。 -gunya ketsuron. soshite chimanako.- 03. 襞謳 -hidauta- 04. 純朴、無垢であろうが -jyunboku, muku de arouga- 05. マニエリスムな冷たい葬列者 -mannerism na tsumetai souretsusya- 06. 艶 -en- 07. 首吊り遊具 -kubitsuri yuugu- 08. されど道連れ -saredo michizure- 09. 死霊のアリアナ -shiryou no ariana- 10. 嬲り -naburi- 11. 耳ゾゾ -mimi zozo- 12. 黝いヒステリア -aoguroi hysteria- 13. 白濁 -hakudaku- DISC 2 [Blu-spec CD2] 01. mama Collaboration with ガラ (MERRY) 02. in all weathers Collaboration with YUKIYA (Kαin) 03. 鵠 -kugui- Collaboration with 藤崎 賢一 (Justy-Nasty) 04. elisabeth addict Collaboration with kyo (D'ERLANGER) 05. 斑人間 -madara ningen- Collaboration with 福井 祥史 (VINYL, ex.STRAWBERRY FIELDS, ex.D'ERLANGER) 06. 耳ゾゾ -mimi zozo- Collaboration with KONTA (ex.BARBEE BOYS) 07. maniera Remixed by Daniel Ash (Bauhaus, Tones On Tail, Love And Rockets, Poptone) DISC 3 [Blu-ray] ◆ Music Video ・艶 -en- ・襞謳 -hidauta- ◆ Live Footage ◆ Rehearsal Footage

Feel free to elaborate on this. But Shia has been fired for what appears to be fraud. There are no further details behind this. The members plan to continue activities in the future. http://lineblog.me/chanty/archives/1062419028.html

Well, i dont know what size of band we are talking about. But i would say 90% of the bands discussed here have no idea/dont care if their CDs are bought overseas. Their income comes mostly from tickets/merchandise (Cheki, cheki, cheki).. Also, surely everyone can write band xy sucks or xy is so amazing, while their bandpicture is pure photoshop, their CD recording is done by session musicians, writing by ghostwriters, etc. The oversea fans then are critizising something totally different from the actual band. But well, thats how it is. I actually dont want to sound like some elitism shit here, just raise awarness maybe, idk. Everyone critize/like/hate how they want, when you visit the actual live you notice how it doesnt matter.

no, not really they've been stagnating and losing sales (and fans?) since 2014 http://www.oricon.co.jp/prof/542980/rank/single/ sadie was a way bigger/more recognizable name before the hiatus, despite having less possessed demonic weaboonetgya

kazuki from screw spat in my eye it got really red and irritated for a couple of days

So I'm guessing millennial means vocalists that were active around 2005-present? Here are a few memorable ones for me that are lesser known. Saki (active 2004-2010) Bands: Clorican, ClearVeil While he's not the best screamer, and may sometimes make you wonder: does this dude even know how to scream? (but ironically makes him memorable), his clean vocals are to die for. And even more, when he reaches those higher notes. I miss him so much and want him back. Raya (active 2004-present) Bands: L'eprica, ANGRAYSE, D'efend Chroma, Sierra de Cobre If you like art-kei vocals, Raya is not to be missed. He's currently back with L'eprica members and plays with bands Emmuree, DISH, and Sioux, but still no sign of them releasing any new material. Still, I can only hope. Amonn (active 2001-present?, but probably only became well-known with the band MELLO in 2006) Bands: Diod'honneur, MELLO, Trompe l'oeil Another art-kei vocalist that shouldn't be missed. Very deep and powerful vocals with amazing delivery. I haven't heard anything from his recent band Trompe l'oeil, but I hope they didn't completely disappear and are still active and planning something new. Oh, and I voted for Ryoga. I don't know much about the other ones, but I'm growing to like Kazuki. I favor Tora over Ryuga so I didn't vote him. They're both great vocalists, but I've always thought Tora was more compelling and emotive.

Mejibray - SM (Limited Edition) <- This was actually a late birthday present from my boyfriend. XD Dog in the PWO - Heart (CD+DVD Limited Edition) D=OUT - バクチ / 魁swallowtail (Limited Edition) Ignore the Pusheen box in the corner of the picture. I was taking pics of it for a friend.

This is me by ex-Phantasmagoria Iori There's some other pics too. 1 2

It played Gazette for me. i'm personally more triggered by this. : |

^ #trigger_warning that page autoplays dir en grey music when visited

ex-黒い林檎(kuroi ringo) members new band "Noulla" will hold their first live "DAWN OF MY DEAR DESPAIR" at Ikebukuro BlackHole at 2016/12/16. "Noulla" members: Vo.zin (ex-MoЯGuE-->黒い林檎(kuroi ringo)) Gu.kei. (ex-RedinK-->音切奏(otogirisou)-->黒い林檎(kuroi ringo)) Gu.TEM Ba.鈴 (Rin) (ex-MoЯGuE-->黒い林檎(kuroi ringo)) support Dr.まさき (Masaki) https://twitter.com/band_noulla

http://www.tokyo-liberated.com/artist-interview/ 11/10公演出演アーティスト「THE NOSTRADAMNZ」short interview！ 11/10公演に向けてのインタビュー第３弾は、「The NOSTRADAMNZ」からBass＆Vocalの禰故督丙さんにお話を伺いました！ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Q.まず、各メンバーの自己紹介をお願いします。 ボーカルとベースの禰故督丙-ねもとこうへい-(ルシファー)、 ギターの燕瞳瑶壱楼-えんどうよういちろう-(狂人)、 ドラムの上邑隼人-かみむらはやと-(ピエロ) 以上の三人がTHE NOSTRADAMNZのメンバーです。 Q.バンド名の由来、バンドのコンセプトを教えてください。 ぼくらが子供だった世紀末に、震えがとまならないくらい怖くて、 それでも無性にワクワクしたあの気持ちを象徴する名前です。 ライブや音源で、あの気持ちを皆様と共有したいと思っています。 Q.今回のイベント参加への意気込み、ライヴでの見所をお聞かせください。 このインタビューに答えてるときより演奏がちょっとうまくなってると思います。 Q.9/27リリースの「ZOMBIE WORLD KEEPS SINGING」、10/5リリースの「ヴィルヘイムに告ぐ」と音源の発表が相次いでいますが、それぞれの聴きどころを教えてください。 前者は、我々が基調とするポップでノイジーなパンクロックナンバーになってます。 どこかで聞いたことがあるフレーズも入っています。 ライブでは拳を天高く突き上げて一緒に歌ってください。 後者は、ダークでヘヴィな四つ打ちのディスコナンバーです。 これもライブでは天高く飛び上がりつつ一緒に歌って頂きたい。 両方とも、シングルCDですが、6 曲入りとなっており、タイトル曲＋配信リリースしているep「大予言」の曲を、 ねもとやえんどうがリミックスを手がけ、収録しています。 タイトル曲のオリジナルカラオケも入っているので、あなたのお部屋をライブステージにすることも可能です。 あと、11月にまた一枚シングルリリースします。 このライブかその前の11/4のライブから販売開始する予定です。 このインタビューが公開されるときにはすでに情報解禁されているかもしれませんが、 詳しくはオフィシャルツイッターとか見てみてください。 Q.かなり短期間での連続リリースになりますが、何か狙いがあるのでしょうか？ 忘れて欲しくないんです。 Q.最後に、今後の活動の展望や目標をお願いします。 「我々が楽しいと思えることをやる」ということが大前提に、 たくさんのひとに楽しんでもらえるようになりたいです。 ______________________________________________________________ Rough translation; (corrections are welcome) * few notes below* Short interview of 11/10 performance starring artist "THE NOSTRADAMNZ"! Towards, 11/10 band Interview no.3, starring the vocalist of "THE NOSTRADAMNZ" Nemoto Kouhei. Q: First of all, please your self-introduction of each member. A: On Vocal and Bass, Kouhei Nemoto aka "Lucifer" On Guitar, Yoichiro Endo aka "Kyoujin" On Drums, Hayato kamimura aka "Piero" We form with 3 members THE NOSTRADAMNZ Q: Please tell us the origin of the band name and the band concept. A: We are the kids of the last century, even being scared to shivers, we had the feeling of excitement, which the band name symbolizes. At lives and with our sound we want to share that feeling with everybody. Q: What would be the LIVE highlight for a visitor of this event? A: Coming to our live and feeling it yourself is giving you a better impression than if I would answer in this interview. Q: At 9/27 you releases "ZOMBIE WORLD KEEPS SINGING"* Also another single was released at 10/5 named "ヴィルヘイムに告ぐ", please tell something more about the release to our readers. A: The tone of the first is a punk, pop noisy track. It also contains a phrase which you have heard somewhere. At our live, put up your fist to the heaven and let's sing together. The 2nd single is a heavy dark 4 beat disco number. At our live we would love that you sing along and jump up high in the heaven. Both singles containing 6 songs, the title track, remixes of the track and also remix songs of our EP "dai yogen". Also it contains a original karaoke of the title track, so for you it's also possible to stand up at the stage inside your own room. Also a new single will be released this November. We are planning to sell it at our next live at 11/4 Maybe you are already informed about it, when this interview is published. So please take a look at our official twitter accounts for more information. Q: what's the spirit to release continuous in such short period of time? A: Because we don't want to be forgotten. Q: Finally, what's your vision and goals for your future activities? A: The principle is "That people can enjoy us" I really want that lot's of people will enjoy our music. NOTES: * release via closet child, was already available to buy at live gigs.

if you literally gave half as much of a shit about the bands you stan then you'd know where to find relevant news about them yourself anyway lmao being ''the news guy'' shouldn't be an excuse to just go around breaking the rules, insulting mods and acting like a diva for no fucking reason, if other people aren't allowed to bandodge then why should he?

SuG - I was a fan, I bought every releases, even their first live DVD super limited or something (I can't quite remember today xD) and then I got bored, it went downhill, I sold everything. XD I continue to enjoy songs like Vi-vi-vi (so fun) and butterflY BoY but they are basically out of the map for me today. I even tried BLACK because everyone here was super hyped, and it did nothing to me (I should have post this in 'explain the hype' thread tbh). I did enjoy uwakimono's EP tho, it was solid. I really don't know what to expect from them and I don't want to bother. Serial NUMBER - I gave up after I got my 01 teach album. They were one of my favourites, and this album and what come next was a huge disappointment. Plus, Kazune left and he was my favourite member ;-; and then everyone left yolo. I know they've kinda refined their sound on their two latest EP but still, it's not as appealing as before for me. Maybe their next album will fulfill my expectations? Otherwise, I'll just stick with my old stuff. ゾロ (Zoro) - I was an fan, a late fan so I missed some limited releases but whatever, I managed to get everything until Core (included). Core was already so-so, and what come next was a giant wtf. I dropped Zoro. I still have an immense pleasure to listen to APOLLO, or COSMO. I still hate Tatsuhi, that will never change xD I can't stand this guy xD 彩冷える (ayabie) - the struggle, like Vidoll (after Deathmate -included-). When you love the vocalist but can't bear the songs he's singing because it's shit for you, you know what I mean? this. Oh it's not only VK? Well, Paramore, Within Temptation, Dover - they're S.H.I.T today.

^ Saying you don't like any oshare vocalist is like saying you don't like any chocolate without trying the good ones. That's generalizing. Have you listened to ALL oshare bands? Because that's the only way you're qualified to dislike them all.

EVERYONE?! Bullshit. I'm a girl and I HATE kids, HATE them a lot! They're loud and they're the most expensive toys which exist. Yes, TOYS, because many people want to have a baby just because or because my family wants me to have kids, etc and then these babies grow up being miserable. Same with me. No marriage, no kids, more money and happiness