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When you’re talking to someone and they have no clue how happy they’re making you just by talking to you, it’s such a good feeling and I’m happier than I’ve been in a long time ❤️

finally first ep and limited demo

No, there had been some confusion previously. Sho had always been the vocalist. Dimlim's tsubasa used to be called haiji.

they sell like crazy and are unproblematic all around, why would they stop???

tell that to the kids he molested x

Got some Boris shit. Download cards for the records would have been nice, now I gotta digitise them.

press p to piss on his grave

I swear to god their looks are created using a bot mixing a random historic period, a visual kei/mainstream fashion trend, and an unrelated word or two on a formula; you can legit sum them up as: トゥーン・ワールド: 1976 Playboy Mansion Yakuza Birthday Rave Comedown 人喰テディベア: 2009 Penicillin Cosplayers Looking Edgy At An Animecon ポップコーンモンスター: 1992 Very Kawaii David Lynch Psychopath Clown Extravaganza ボクラノウタ: 2006 High School Halloween Thrift Store White Room Carnival Jesus Phobia: 1950 Masonic Initiation Meets A Failed Versailles Skit WELCOME TO GHOST HOTEL: 2005 Nu-Metal Visual Kei Scene Embarrassment 反抗声明: 1999 VK Band Graduating On A JPop Label Potpourri カルチャーショック: 2012 Tumblr Demiboy Moodboard Realness This Thing: 1984 Down Syndrome Awareness Campaign Retro-Couture (their next single: 4000 BC Indigo Child Caveman Morigirl Homage)

CO-(ex-FUTURISM・BOYZ) (now acts as real estate agent):

He died today at the age of 87. He was basically the founder of the japanese male idol groups incl. SMAP, Arashi, Kat-tun and many more. RIP. https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20190709/p2g/00m/0et/089000c

New single details: 2019.9.25 RELEASE!! CD only 2000yen+tax 1.Re:sist 2.beautiful freaks 3.RAVEN CD+DVD 1000yen+tax 1.Re:sist 2.偽りと影 (Itsuwari to kage) [DVD] 「Re:sist」(MUSIC CLIP) band also started instagram

feels like meev releases a new album every 3 months or something

I had 2 dreams last night. Dream 1 My sister wanted to pull a heist to rob some building. I was totally against it saying it's a dumb idea but my parents were there and they were really on board with it and very supportive. I was loosing my mind because we didn't even have a plan, but everyone was eager. So we suited up with masks and drove to this building. When we got there though, it was raining and there was security everywhere. I kept saying how this was a bad idea but no one listened to me and just split up to find ways inside. Dream 2 I went up to a lovely air bnb cabin at the top of a hill with a view of the ocean. I was ready to enjoy the weekend and have some nice R&R. When I walked in though there was man wielding a chainsaw waiting for me. As soon as I walked in he revved it up. He looked like a crazed version of leatherface with makeup (Texas Chainsaw Massacre 1 version) and had this wide-eyed manic yet distressed expression with clenched teeth. He kept twitching and making these yelping noises, almost like he was in pain. I was terrified but just kind of hurried past him trying to get to my room. When I got halfway up some stairs he started doing the dance that leatherface does at the end of movie but more viciously and psychotic. I just went into my room and shut the door.

Yeah, they've disappeared off the face of the map and I don't see them coming back into the general perview until they release an album next year, maybe. It's a true fucking shame because they're very good and Asuka has all of the means to become the next Ruki with charisma, but man they're burying the lead and at this rate they'll be around for 5 years and end it without making a legacy of any kind. /rant

idk her but bye bitch

im so happy rena is back with such a strong lineup ive stopped the vid after 5 seconds just so i cant get disappointed

I'm Catholic. God is the only reason why I live. The rest is the rest.

Lin deserves huge credit hes taking up a huge role, not only is he joining a huge band but he has to make up for 2 guitarists. From the samples hes doing amazing i loved him in abstracts and im happy hes here. He gets to shine with a solo on the last track very nice !

Repent sinners! Don't you dare look at any bandomen without makeup!

Man, this thread was an interesting read. Here's some more pictures of Ki$aki's old bands, just for completion's sake I guess:

For me, it's the entire DIR EN GREY band members. DIR EN GREY in 1997 and nowadays are like complete different bands in every aspect.

whos juka? O_o

The ensoku song that ishin covered is actually called gorila no oka (ゴリラの丘) The woman in the picture is kaworu (かをる) who was Heisei Ishin's hair+make up artist & their merch girl. She came and sang a song during the Yoshifumi Band set; it's her song but iirc she said Rai helped compose it & on the CD Yukkie and Yoshi played guitar and bass respectively on the recorded version for her. Yukkie also came out on stage for that song and also to do ruru w/ Ishin as well.

[VERY FUCKING DRY HEAVING] ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

Well this thread is like a year old but goddamn, this was hilarious to read. I just wanted to add that when I talked to ex-Da'vid/shito:aL Pietoro for the interview I put up on misa shito, I sent him the mp3s of Crime and Funeral songs, and he recognized them as the actual songs by Karma. So I'd say those are legit Karma songs and not Kisaki's, or covers or anything like that.

I feel, as a Kisaki fan, that I'm not being given a positive, personal opinion of my own about the him, or quite frankly anything related to him. I've realized that being fond of him is somewhat of a burden too as other Visual fans usually judge me for it and constantly make me aware of his faults where it isn't necessary (not in this case per sé, as I myself looked into this topic) as I am very much aware of his faults. Every human being is full of faults. No one is flawless and there are some where it shows more evidently because frankly, Kisaki isn't that good at hiding things, and I am very much aware of it, but I don't throw a relentless fit everytime he says or does something stupid, because that's human nature. There have been times where I've been directly accused for things he did (like, what the hell...) or that I've been bullied because I am fond of him. Like inartistic said, Kisaki is hunted, preferably up towards the very cross at which a lot of people desire to see him burn and no one gives him any rest until he ends up breaking down again, for which of course, the 'fans' blame him, and regardless of what anyone thinks, he's very self-aware. As a fan this is very hard to constantly be confronted with wherever I look into topics about him. Whether that is on Tumblr, Facebook, Twitter, Livejournal, or forums such as these. No one ever has a good word to spare about him, and quite honestly I'm in deep on an emotional level where I feel conflicted too, whether that makes someone think of me as a rabid, obsessive, mentally challenged fangirl or not. There are a lot of musicians who have been involved in some shady business, but no one bothered with them longer than about two months, after an occurence. Kisaki's problems are following him because people are constantly shoving things back in his face from years ago (like the Kyo/Kisaki incident, or his tax evasion - of which he isn't the only one having done so, but do you hear anyone about Dynamite Tommy? Nope). There are only few who ever view him from his good side; there are tons of musicians he assisted, he's given the entire Kansai scene a foundation, man — his dedication is insane because no matter how terrible he feels, he'll stand on that stage whereas a lot of musicians already stay at home and cancel their lives when they suffer from a cold. He's always done events, brought bands and fans together, releases music on the go, made sure you could listen to your favourite obscure Matina bands and newer UCP bands, and a whole hell of a lot more. But I never read something positive about him other than the words that leave my own mouth or keyboard, and from the close-knitted group of his fans which luckily still exists on Twitter and WeLoveUCP.

What if he's done this all purposely and the first person to confront him about it wins a UCP special bag + official bootleg DVDs and (another) copy of Phantasmagoria's Dejavu?? This is my moment

It's actually hilarious.

To give some ~expert confirmation~ on a few things: - myth_ceo is KISAKI. He sold UCP limited items, his own personal items, and even sold samples which he got from other bands (eg. in his blog he mentions SID giving him a sample of their new single, and then the next day myth_ceo was selling it). I'm also 100% sure that this was KISAKI himself and not a staff member. - KISAKI closed myth_ceo and now has another account on Y!J, something like iyouxi or something (not on PC and can't remember the name). I know it's him for the same reasons listed above (funnily, some people actually complained on that account about him selling samples). - He also has an mbok account which is something like deho_san (again, can't remember), though he doesn't use it often. - His time in STELLA MARIA is 100% confirmed. In addition to tapes, we have flyers and videos confirming. - His time in garden is 100% confirmed. In addition to the real tape being sold on Y!J a ton of times, there is video of garden somewhere. - I'm actually 90% sure the "Once..." tape is real as well, although probably not released as "KISAKI PROJECT" as his official website calls it. The reason I'm sure it's real is that it features the STELLA MARIA vocalist, and it was mentioned on UNDER CODE's website back in 2003 at least. So really what is in question (well, was in question) are the bands Levia, LAYBIAL, and SHEY=DE. As I mentioned before, I bought some tapes from KISAKI, but basically they are fake. However, I want to give some more complete info on them, if you'll just wait for another post. (And sorry for not posting before, but I was still unsure about certain things. Champ's post about the SHEY=DE tracks is what made the difference for me.) I will go ahead and say this, though: although we now know that these demotapes are fake, there is still more to this plot...! Please wait for my next post.

Also worth mentioning is that this seller had at least two more copies of the bootleg Matina DVD hyura bought + at least two KELOID tapes. http://page2.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b158133370 http://page2.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b159894149 And this Levia tape (滅びの序章) mentioned in the thread before. http://page2.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b158348584 I suppose 滅びの序章 belongs to a real band called Levia, the one that was listed a lot of times in CLUB GIO's 1993 list (where Kisaki's Levia never played). And as we know, their member names confirm that they had nothing to do with Kisaki: http://monochrome-heaven.com/uploads/monthly_03_2014/post-515-0-68667200-1395329942.png I'm very sure that the tape sold by this seller (who is Kisaki or someone who's involved in his shit) had a photocopied cover without these names on it. From what I saw on Naaaaani's photo, there aren't any names on the KELOID tape either. When Kisaki made up all his bullshit (probably around the time when he released his book in 2007) he just used this Levia band as a base for his "first band". Even the title of his fictional band's tape was derived from Levia's. http://kisaki-official.syncl.jp/?p=shop&id=530024&af= 滅びの序章 → 滅序章 Oh and this: Yeah sure, KISAKI PROJECT in 1994... Why not create another potential tape to sell for 5000 yen, right? I won't be surprised if this someday pops up on an auction from a user who's selling unreleased Matina and UCP stuff - more than one copy, of course. ;D The only thing so far that may indeed be real is that 奴隷華 tape by SHEY≠DE, which is listed in hyura's magazine from 1999 as their only tape. I somehow doubt that he already faked his band history back then, but who knows...

Well, for what it's worth: the person that gave me the rip of 瑠璃の雫 also gave me 2 other demo tapes allegedly by SHEY=DE: 奴隷華 and Dark Side. Again, just rips, not physical tapes, so not really hard evidence. But the fake 瑠璃の雫 rip led me straight to the very real INSANITY tape which then showed some eerie parallels to the information on Kisaki's site. Maybe we can find something for the other ones as well. The "Dark Side" tape has already been partially identified. Gaz pointed me towards a band called 業, and upon searching a bit I actually found 2 YT vids by that band and . Those are the first 2 tracks on the tape. (Interestingly enough, the YT description says that 業 was the first band of ピエトロ and リエット, presumably the vocalist and guitarist of Da'vidノ使徒:aL - the band 業 is indeed mentioned as a previous band of リエット here. ) The alleged tape also has a 3rd track called 苦悩二果テニ which I'm unable to identify or match to any other band. However, this one doesn't really proof anything so far, since there doesn't seem to be any "official" tracklist for this particular Kisaki tape. In this case anyone could have made up a tracklist and mislabeled the files. Which would have been my normal guess, but in the light of all these discoveres.... who knows? Here are all 3 tracks from the the fake "Dark Side": https://www.mediafire.com/?0sjs1oq4w4vlwq4 Maybe someone recognizes the still unidentified 3rd track? Now, the other tape, 奴隷華. The tracklist I got matches the one from the scan above. Neither I or my contact recognized the songs from any other band. In theory, this rip could still be legit, but I'm not holding my breath. Again, I'm posting it here, maybe someone else can identify it: https://www.mediafire.com/?qg69423c4i5g72k So yeah, that's all I can offer for now. Good hunting.

I'm not even sure if it's about money.... yeah, you can sell the tapes at a decent price, but not really THAT much that it would warrant the effort and risks involved, since you can only sell a very small amount of them without it getting too suspiscious. So... I dunno... Anyway, in the interest of the "investigation", here's the files of the INSANITY demo tape: https://www.mediafire.com/?j318rj3m133l0t0 I talked to my japanese contact who identified it for me again, and he confirmed the information I found on the auction site. He also told me that the tape is called "瑠璃の雫", just like the alleged SHEY=DE tape. He owns a physical copy of the INSANITY tape, so there's really no doubt about it, the INSANITY tape exists, the cover art and tracklist are legit, although the cover art and parts of the names miraculously also turn up on Kisaki's site as a SHEY=DE release. There's also no doubt that the files linked above are from said INSANITY tape, although - again miraculously - they were circulated as that SHEY=DE release - what a coincidence! (Btw, I changed the tags to the proper ones, since I don't want to further spread mistagged files.) Now, for the rare chance that anyone ever got their hands on a physical release of the SHEY=DE tape, please compare them with the files I linked, so we can have full clarity. XD But I have a vague idea about the result already....

You know, usually when people sell their music to other people, they sell them rights to the music, ie. the composition/lyrics so that other people can record/perform them - I never heard of people selling actual fully recorded songs that they already released themselves to other people so that they can claim them as their own work without even re-recording them themselves. At least in case of Levia this seems to be the case, and there's some indication it's also the case for Shey=de. What are the chances that three different bands (VICE RISK, Nude of J, INSANITY) sold their already released demos to three consecutive bands of Kisaki, so that he could claim them as releases of his bands? And would it make it really any better if he did indeed pay money to use those recordings? It would still leave the fact that 3 of his 4 earliest works showcased on his own site don't actually seem to have been written, performed and recorded by any band that he was ever part of. At this point I wouldn't bet any money on the remaining vintage release - Levia's 滅序章 - being from one of KIsaki's bands either. If it was just one dubious release I would say, okay, coincidence, misunderstanding, mistake, whatever. But three releases? That can't be a coincidence. Why would he do that? I dunno. But we are talking about the person that took a photo of paper cranes from Google and claimed it was cranes sent to him by fans while he was in hospital. To be clear, I'm not a Kisaki-hater. I like many of his bands and his labels' bands. But I'm calling bullshit on this one.

But he was already pretty clear about it. It's not a cover, it's the same recordings he said. Normally I would suspect that some random seller on Yahoo wanted to make some money and just faked the tape. But Kisaki's official site confirms the cover and tracklist and it's pretty weird in itself that the tracklist is 2/3 of the Nude-of-J tape. Which is another thing, the Nude-of-J tape has 3 tracks, so it's not just that the tape somehow ended up in the wrong case, someone must have gone through the trouble to copy over those 2 songs specifically. Aaaaand there's more. I recently got the mp3s for another purported early Kisaki band, SHEY≠DE, via trade. It was later brought to my attention that they were probably fake. Fake files can happen in trades, although my source was usually a very realible one. One of the tapes I got is also on Kisaki's homepage, this one: http://kisaki-official.syncl.jp/?p=shop&id=530032&af= So, I showed my files to another japanese guy I know who's very knowledgable about old vk stuff, he said the tape I got was actually by a band called INSANITY. And here's where it gets interesting. Upon googling a bit I found this old auction where somebody was selling that old INSANITY tape: http://aucview.aucfan.com/yahoo/w80588066/ The tracklist is slightly different, but look at the cover! It's the same as on Kisakis page, except that one is red! For comparison: 瑠璃の雫 by SHEY≠DE 1. insanity 2. XXXXX 3. 夢遊病者 Unnamed tape by INSANITY 1. 恋模様 2. Desert Labyrinth 3. 瑠璃の雫 The first song on the SHEY≠DE tape has been altered with the name of the actual band (!), and the second one has been replaced with xxxxx (!!). The third song of the INSANITY tape was used as title for the SHEY≠DE tape (!!!). Now that's creative! But hey, at least he came up with a COMPLETLY NEW fake name for the 3rd song this time. And he re-colored the cover in Photoshop. That's gotta be worth something, right? The INSANITY tape was sold for 1000 Yen btw. The seller could have asked for a lot more for a SHEY≠DE tape, so there's no reason whatsoever for him to fake a SHEY≠DE tape into an INSANITY tape. At first I thought I was spoofed by a tricky trader. But there seems to be more to it. So after the dubious LAYBIAL and Levia tapes.... make it three.

i'm starting to think that every COCKSUKEY's band before Stella maria were just garage bands of some teen guys which haven't actually released anything. and now he realized how to make moar moneyz by just making up band's history and putting up releases that never existed. so then comes the funniest part: making those "releases" himself recording some no1curr about stuff on tapes and selling them for crazy prices. DUDE COME ON AT LEAST CHANGE THE SONGS TITLES TO MAKE IT LESS OBVIOUS!

And he used a picture of origami cranes to say these were gifts fans sent him while in the hospital.

I can make a scan if you like! orz He is in fact recognizable, but the first picture shows only him. I think the 'details are secret' is weird, too, but doubt he actually faked having been in that band at this point. That was only 5 years later! And the date is the same as in the new live-history, too. I'd rather think he'd invent some releases, not the entire band. : / The other photo.. may actually SHEY≠DE, I think. The guys look very similar to the picture of SHEY≠DE on the same page. The layout of the magazine is a bit vague, so it's not clearly mislabeled or anything, but it makes it look like it belongs to the LAYBIAL section. About the blog photo, though... He clearly stated it was UCP guys! I just mentioned it since there was no photo proof of levia-related stuff or anything. He didn't just upload photos from google to his blog, he, for example, took a photo of hospital food from google and wrote 'This is my food at the hospital' under it. Or he took a photo of a broken car window from google and wrote 'Someone broke into my car' under it. And there were around 20 cases found before he shut down his blog I believe. I doubt many common musicians do that.

Wow, I only saw this thread now. : o So I'm a bit late to the party. Kisaki bashing used so be a popular sport so as his fan I feel like a traitor to say this but: Well. Kisaki was also the guy who took random pictures from google and uploaded them to his blog to look like he had a life. So yeah it doesn't seem that unlikely for him to invent those releases or even bands afterwards to make his history more colorful. The 'Beyond the kingdom' book has the same release- and live-history infos that were already posted and no pictures of either bands. It doesn't say much about Laybial in the history part at all either, only that they were a 'positive punk' band and toured other cities as well. KISAKI left them very fast. It has, however, some stuff about Levia: appearently they were extremely popular in wakayama, even referred to as 'super band', that's why they played so many oneman lives (pretty unusual for a young band like that!), they often appeared in the local press and played as OA for major bands. The sound was aggressive. I also looked through my old mags and found some 'Kisaki photo gallery' in a minikomi from '99! No photo/mention of levia, but two pictures of Laybial. One of them is commented with '1994.5.30 Umeda Guild, Even between the photos I have this one is pretty old. Because this band is currently with Matina there's propably lots of people who are like 'what?' now. The details are secret.' ... So the live history of that band seems to be legit I guess. ;D The other photo is dated 1994.9.21... which is technically when he was already in his next band. : o So no idea. I doubt those tapes would disappear just like that. : o 200 and 300 presses is not that few and Kisaki was a famous guy from early on, at least from La'Sadies he made it pretty big in the indies scene, so at least a couple would have made their way to second hand shops and the like. Just like with many other tapes from old nobody bands whose members got famous later on. What does it say on that Levia tape? ;O; I'm curious. edit: there is a blog entry here where kisaki says he visited Levias guitarist in Wakayama who is now married with the woman who was their staff at that time. : o But the photo is some UCP people. XD (at least not stolen from google!)

I tried to find the live house archives, wherein Levia and Laybial supposedly played. I felt myself at the gate of victory, but... http://www5.big.or.jp/~gio/memories/index.html All sites are under construction... Kisaki's hand reach everywhere.

I hope he redistributes those early tapes for some anniversary. I love crappy teen-kei demos.

illuminati

Sorry, but how are some obscure teen bands who were probably as "big" as Kisaki's band "heroes" for them...? As for the fact that it was common to copy certain phrases and titles: Yeah that's true, when you look at a number of vk bands you may see some similar titles here and there. But THIS is just too conspicuous.. I mean.. They just took a whole tracklist and simply copy-pasted it. Maybe added 1-2 songs. I don't know but it's just extremely weird that something like this was done on purpose, concerning at least 3 different bands. I haven't seen anything like this in any other vk band. This would also mean that they all had to be from the same region. How else could have such tiny bands heard about each other and even know their song titles (and the order in which they recorded them on their demo tape...)? According to Kisaki's official site (which I just found), Levia were from Wakayama (Kisaki's birth town). Nude of J (formed 1 year before Levia) were from Gunma prefecture, which is nearly half across Japan from the Wakayama area. Or maybe the 15-17 year old Kisaki traveled around Japan and went to numerous lives of bands who were together for a month and thought "FUCK YEAH! KELOID, PRAY, VIRGINING PLESURES! Guys I have no idea what it means but your song titles rock my socks! Hell, I'll make a band when I'm home and use all of them (including spelling mistakes)" No seriously... it seems a little bit too far-fetched. :/ Wow, which tape is it? Can you tell us about the songs on it?

He was 16~17 years old. These teen guys always try to copy their heroes.

KI$AKI is a reptilian from the hollow earth and supreme master of the Illuminati srsly now.. there's also another band from the 90's named Levia never saw a single trace of the actual existence of KISAKI's Levia other than those originally comming from own KI$AKI's sources

#Wikisakileaks But yeah, at this point I wouldn't be surprised if Kisaki just made these bands up by himself.

Kisaki's been caught for tax fraud before, so it's not implausible that either He made it up on the spot and no one questioned him (Far less likely) His bands ripped off of those bands entirely Since no one seems to own a copy of Levia/LAYBIAL stuff AFAIK, it's most likely number one. No way that stuff from Kisaki's past can disappear - after all, he is the king of repackaging and selling music.