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Ever listen to a song and think to yourself that you've heard that melody somewhere before, but you can never place it? Alternatively, have you ever gotten into or read an argument with someone who says "x band copied y melody from z band"? I'm sure all of us have been there at one point and this is a topic that personally interests me. I like knowing where my artists source their inspiration from, and where their inspirations got their inspiration from, etc., because I believe that no idea is original but the interpretation can be. The subjectivity in how different artists hear and play back certain melodies is what makes music beautiful! ...and then there are times when bands just steal melodies and put no effort into it. Today we take a look at six songs that can go either way. I provide examples, where I think their origins stem from, and my final judgement. Sometimes it's hero worship. Sometimes it's laziness. Sometimes I just don't know. A lot of this was sourced from the "Inspirations..." thread I started a few years ago, but I also did a bit of legwork the last few months to cobble together my own examples. If you see a track here you pointed out somewhere before, odds are you helped me make this list! Remember, these are only my opinions and based off what I can hear between two songs. I am not classically trained in music theory and I'm going purely by ear. You won't see me drop music theory knowledge anywhere in this post. "Diabolic edict" by Ha;qch stems from "Black Valor" by The Black Dahlia Murder "When The Last Grave Has Emptied" by The Black Dahlia Murder "Elder Misanthropy" by The Black Dahlia Murder Homage or Copy: Frankenstein lives! "セラフ。" by KILLANETH stems from "DECADANCE - Counting Goats ... if I can't be yours -" by MEJIBRAY "go ahead" by girugämesh Homage or Copy: c-c-c-COPY...but every band has to start somewhere "The Summer Funeral" by SIGH stems from "Opening Theme ~ Bombing Mission" by Nobuo Uematsu Homage or Copy: Definitely a nod towards the veteran composer himself. "道化ノ華" by アルルカン (ARLEQUIN) stems from "zombie" by Versailles Homage or Copy: Smells like a copy to me but can go either way "Black Butterfly" by A stems from "Enter the Sandman" by Metallica Homage or Copy: Sounds like a copy to me. "Amentia" by E'm～grief～ stems from "Progenies of the Great Apocalypse" by Dimmu Borgir "The Promise of Fever" by Cradle of Filth "Shat Out of Hell" by Cradle of Filth "Honey and Sulphur" by Cradle of Filth Homage or Copy: A shameless mix of three black metal riffs

Indie/electronic outfit MARQUEE BEACH CLUB will release their debut album on August 10th, 2016! http://marqueebeachclub.tumblr.com/ https://twitter.com/mbc_japan MARQUEE BEACH CLUB "Flavor" Release Date: 2016.08.10 Price: ¥ 2,300 + Tax Label: P-VINE Cat.No.:PCD-93991 Tracklist: 01. eye 02. pattern 03. cups 04. wonder 05. understand 06. escape 07. city 08. utopia 09. white 10. dive 11. always

tbh I don't think Kisaki cared about the Dimmu stuff at all because he later stole the intro to an Anorexia Nervosa song to start off one of Lin's DVDs.

First of all, thanks to @indigofor suggesting that we could revamp this thread just to see how old MH attendees have progressed with their tastes and simultaneously gather some new bunch to present their all-time choices inside this Japanese music spectrum. As the title says already, you will have a chance to use this topsters link (since original topsters links are dead) to create a chart representing your tier 1, 2, 3...choices, depending on how much you are able to compile in terms of your Japanese favorites. And for the sake of fairness and challenge (huh?), it would be preferable to post 1 ALBUM PER ARTIST - and of course, make sure to post your jpg/png here for us to see (hopefully this thread won't die soon) mine (very difficult one - also, fuck my 2012 self): (try to zoom or if you don't succeed, press ctrl and "+" together) They are somewhat in order but I placed my picks from tier 1 choices (constant, essential) to tier 4 choices (might change, but still very memorable and enjoyable) and spoilered titles (in order) below:

on the 28th it was Rides In ReVellion's first one man live, which also conicides with their 1 year anniversary. due to my job, I get to see many great concerts, many of which are Rides In ReVellion due to the strong relationship between Rides In ReVellion and V STAR PROMOTION. but the live on the 28th was spectacular, the members put so much effort in preparation leading up to the live, and then twice as much during the actual live. and at the end of the night they announced that they will be playing in America in October! I can not express just how proud I am of this band. Picture taken by me.

New look: PV spot:

My phone was being super cranky with me when I took these... >.> All of the newer stuff I bought off of a friend who's getting out of the VK fandom. La'Mule - 結界~ガラス神経ト自我境界~ (Red Version) ViViD - Real (Type A) D=Out - High Collar (Type A) D=Out - あいするひと (Type A) ViViD - Fake (Type A) ViViD - Message (Type A) SuG - 不完全 Beautyfool Days DaizyStripper - 妄想日記 (Type A) D=Out - 中距離恋愛 (Regular Type A) SuG - Crazy Bunny Coaster (Type A) D=Out - 恋アバき、雨ザラし (Type A) The Kiddie - Calling (Limited Version) SuG - teenAge dream / Luv it!! (Limited Version) REALies - LiNE (Type A) D=Out - 感電18号 (Type A) DaizyStripper - Stargazer (Type A) SuG - ☆ギミギミ☆ (Type A) hide - Psyence Sleep My Dear - Ask for Eyes Sleep My Dear - Code L'arc en Ciel - Dune Malice Mizer - Memoire DX hide - Hide Your Face Glay - Speed Pop Stella Maria - ~cage~ Psycho Le Cemu - 浪漫飛行 (Limited Version) La'Mule - 一日の孤独 百年の孤独 La'Mule - 弐月伍日ノ泪 RoNo☆Cro - パイナップルチャーハン (Type A) Hero - 答え合わせ (Type A) SuG - Toy Soldier (Type A)

2016/27/07 R.I.P AvelCain </3 3 attempts till this neck thing worked..kinda

KILLANETH new maxi single "Apocrypha" will be released at 2016/09/07 (2 TYPE) limited edition (1,944yen) will include CD+DVD (including "Apocrypha" PV), and regular edition (1,620yen) will include CD only [CD track list] 01.Apocrypha 02.孤独-Einsamkeit- 03.Morpheus. (included in regular edition) btw they will hold ルシ(rushi) birthday live "自由のしるし" at Ikebukuro BLACK HOLE at 2016/12/04, DAY OF 39 "III X-V IX" at Ikebukuro CYBER at 2017/03/09, their presents live "Curse of OBELISK" at OSAKA RUIDO at 2017/04/12, their presents live "King of LARU" at NAGOYA HOLIDAY NEXT at 2017/04/13 and 丐(kai) birthday one-man live "Wrath of ANUBIS" at Shinjuku BLAZE at 2017/05/12 title of their live-distributed single to be released at their one-man live "黒聖書とウィジャの呼応" at Ikebukuro EDGE at 2016/07/29 is finalized as "キリク摘む空、衒う雨。(kirikou tsumu sora terau ame)"

Earlier today, Kenshi Yonezu released a trailer for his new single "LOSER/ナンバーナイン(number nine)" which is gonna be released on September 28th 5th single details 「LOSER / ナンバーナイン」 Release: 2016/09/28 *LOSER side (Limited Edition): CD + dog tag + loose package* \1,950 (+tax) *number nine side (Limited Edition): CD + DVD + 7inch gallery package* \1,800 (+tax) *Regular edition: CD\1,200 (+tax) <CD CONTENTS> M-1. LOSER M-2. ナンバーナイン (number nine) < "Louvre No.9~Manga, The 9th Art~" Official image song> M-3. amen <NUMBER NINE EDITION DVD CONTENTS> 1. LOSER / Music Video 2. ナンバーナイン (number nine) / Music Video *Those were written in english but i have no idea what they mean... there's a goods set for No.9 on his page though http://reissuerecords.net/goods/ Official announcement WHERE'S @beniEEEEEEEEEEEE

Hate to be that guy, but someone needed to mention Nocturnal Bloodlust. I'm pretty sure they also copied a Suicide Silence song in 'Pleasure of Torture', can't remember which...

one more club to add to the club of clubs... pelican fanclub awesome city club and summer club helsinki lambda club litchi hikari club marquee beach club

Yes they sound like Mejibray, but damn I dig it

I like them, I don't know why...probably because of the vocal.

Setlist of the show on 2016.07.29 Anna Tsuchiya - Knock Down HeavensDust - The world goes gray re:burn The Badasses - Katarsis DIR EN GREY - Utafumi DIR EN GREY - Kuukoku no kyouon LM.C - Punky heart Kra - Fushigi na sekai kara no shoutaijou Matenrou Opera - Silent Scream Jupiter - ARCADIA Kuroyume - Heavenly Tezya - The World Ethereal Sin - Heretic warcray Galmet - Walk ones way Nocturnal Bloodlust - Punch me if you can Nocturnal Bloodlust - Dead End Nocturnal Bloodlust - The strength I need Nocturnal Bloodlust - Strike in Fact Merry - Gunjou Avanchick - Jinsei game Dazed Garden - Ashita Diaura - Horizon Shiva - Kamikaze Avel Cain - Yomi ga eri Gossip - R-18 CrowXClass - Rinne tensei Thank you for listening. I take wishes for music here too ^^ just comment

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No Dir en grey - Grieva or Gazette - Gossip comparsions ? Maybe that wouldve been too obvious/too much. Ha;qch's Edict totally agree, the problem is i like it way more than the original. But didnt know it copied more than just Elder Mysantropy, didnt know the TBDM other songs. On a sidenote, it would be interesting to list all J-Rock Songs with the typical/most common structure in 70% of all todays vk songs chorus with the guitar playing like this or a small alteration or which song/band started with that: e------------------------------------------------------- b------------------------------------------------------- g------------------------------------------------------- d---0-1-0-1-0-1-0-1-0-1-8-8-8-8-7-7-7-7- a---0-1-0-1-0-1-0-1-0-1-8-8-8-8-7-7-7-7- D---0-1-0-1-0-1-0-1-0-1-8-8-8-8-7-7-7-7-- (anyone knows what i mean with the guitar tab here?) Heavy parts in the low chord region going up to typically 8 followed by 7 power chord. Its so common it already feels necessary to me and if its missing some songs feel uncomplete (latest e.g. ARCHEMIs 崇拝 has the typically 0-1-3 stuff going on but misses the 8-7, which makes me feel something is missing listening to the song). VK is so predictable since few (a lot?) of years, listening to a new song the first time i feel like i can already tell the next riff before its even coming. Just a handful of bands makes an exception to that.

Let's not forget the chain of "Because":

Mas meu nick termina com "a" :v

"Weight of sins" is now available for online purchase through http://www.stargoodsshop.com/product/702

Today is FoLLoW's 3rd one-man live! This will be distributed to all attendees ^^

sry for double post but THE hot piece of ass QUEEN IS SLAYING TOO

I still can't decide if this band is awesome or awful

Don't disagree with the ARLEQUIN one, but I do think that “zombie song” is just a visual kei trope at this point (a la “that one jazz song”), so they could be ripping off any number of people Off the top of my head, LIN's "Walking in the rain" (though that one came after Zombie), etc. (I think the trend probably started from Marilyn Manson's "Beautiful People," right?) Re: E'm, I had no idea that the rest of the song after the intro was stolen as well! Thanks for this thread hahaha

V STAR PROMOTION is proud to present the overseas debut of Rides In ReVellion! They will be appearing at Anime USA in Washington, DC at the Washington Marriot Wardman Park Hotel on October 21-23, 2016. There will be a live concert, autograph signing, and other events included with the price of convention admission. For more information, stay tuned or visit http://animeusa.org We look forward to meeting many of you while we are there, and hope that this is the first of many opportunities for us to bring visual kei artists to the international stage. Thank you for your support.

I couldn't do a top 50, had to do the 100 and still cut out a lot I would have liked to keep. lol. They're only loosely in order of release date (starting with the oldest).

This shit is impossible. Had I made this tomorrow there would've been a few changes for sure.

Oh yeah, the Unraveling and Rinkaku remixes were actually so good i forgot to count them as remixes lmao, all those other ones are generally pretty weak though...

He sang kein, Gullet and the studs today. MY HERO.

Not related to Yuzu's departure, but basically someone had (allegedly) been posing as Sick2's manager and trying to have sex with female fans...

Re:MBHI x More (2016.07.29_東高円寺二万電圧) -setlist 1.能力者 2.Wonderland 3.ナイフ 4.燃ゆる東京 5.my head bursting open call a doctor 6.狂犬病 7.プラスチックマン 8.Ⅲ秒で光る骸骨狂ったチャップリンと命名 9.ハゲ散らかしたジョニー 10.27 -ENCORE- 1.Drum solo 2.アイスピック(Piano arrange) 3.ナイフ Tenten & Judy (More/ex.Kiss my way)

don't forget DALLJUB STEP CLUB! Also Japanese!

I was thinking the same thing, haha. Möscow Çlub is another Japanese one. There's also a handful of Western indie artists I can think of off the top of my head too (Bombay Bicycle Club, Two Door Cinema Club, The ABC Club, etc.)

New look: I'm happy to see my favorite pisarro song has a MV

sibilebashir parodying Pokemon GO. You're welcome.

It's a few things. The feedback break after the intro is longer, the first verse is longer, and the section after the first chorus is longer. As a whole, this single is disappointing. I was hoping Kuukoku wasn't going to be just Sugizo playing over the album track, but oh well. Also, Revelation remix is absolute garbage. Go back to reimagining older tracks please, because I didn't miss the era of singles coming with DEG dookie remixes.

do we know each other) =P nice to see you here too ^^

You won't get the hang of the series without watching at least about 5 or 6 episodes. It's really misleading at the start because it needs to get into its flow, and it gets more intense and dark the further it goes. (If it's then still not your thing, I guess ReZero just isn't for you) But hell, it was the surprise of last season for me. I agree with what @Original Sakusaid up there^. It's such a fresh wind in-between most of the series with a similar theme. I absolutely love how "real" Subaru is. How he gets his ups and downs. How he has to face the backlash of things he started without thinking things through. How he realizes he's fucked, basically. Yes, there are definitely generic parts here and there but the main idea of the show, and Subaru's character development (greatly thanks to Kobayashi for voicing him so perfectly), are what keep me interested. If the novel readers' comments are any indication, it'll just continue to get better and better.

Buck Tick is amazing. I love catchy tunes.

If I thought my current car could handle another road trip, but I think 4 cross-country trips tapped it out XD

lol i actually have a top 100 list that doubles as a foobar playlist with exactly the same condition (max 1 per artist), but it's a 'top 100 songs' list rather than 'top 100 releases'. i'll see if i can come up with the latter.

Ordering it as we speak xD thanks for the heads up @hiroki

Reserving this space huehuehue

Send help

I started working on cosplay pieces about a week ago. Hmmm.

idgaf even if trombe hacked my bandomen sama's tsunagari's line accounts to get news, nothing he did is exceptional considering he's probably devoted most of his spare time to looking up obscure news no one gives a flying fuck about, and if you think he does it for the community, you're entirely deluded. trombe never gave a fuck about any of you or news, he did what he did to prove that he was good at breaking news and he enjoyed his rank as a result of that. once his power was taken away, he was visibly upset. never once was he co-operative with staff in letting others post news. think of a child who has a skill that they can do very well, they'll do all in their power to show their skill to anyone who pays attention--once they find someone who does what they can do but better, they'll either adjust their skillset to improve or just stop. and god forbid someone tells the child their skill isn't appreciated anymore--they'll freak the fuck out. i hate to go all creepy psychology on you, but this is the mental complex of someone who literally scours the web for obscure news and tries to oppress all others who stop him. this is why he would bitch biweekly about news that no one commented on, because there wasn't any altruistic intent. he needed attention, and if he didn't get it he'd threaten to leave. that resulted in the ass kissers on here rubbing his ego, and he probably looked at those posts, giggled in some creepy room full of computers, and continued to go on tapping bandomen manager's phones to find info about a session that maybe 4 japanese girls would ever care to attend

Even with the new lame name I'm still eager to hear what they are going to release. I wonder if the name change will also have a musical change?

If it's for cd related terms 無料配布 muryou haifu: free distributed (live or store) 会場限定 kaijou gentei: live limited (usually sold for a price, live distributed releases are usually called just muryou haifu) 配信(限定) haishin (gentei): digital release (only) 初回限定盤 shokai genteiban: first press limited edition 通常盤 tsuujouban: regular edition 会場限定盤 kaijougenteiban: limited edition sold at live venues 通販限定 tsuuhan gentei: mailorder only 完全限定生 kanzen gentei seisan: limited editions that are not going to be reissued (usually limited to a certain number of copies) 先行発売 senkou hatsubai: an item that is sold earlier than the official release date (usually at a special concert) ファンクラブ限定 fankurabu gentei: fanclub only 予約限定 yoyaku gentei: reservation only 期間限定 kikan gentei: available for a limited period of time 再録 sairoku: re-recorded リマスター rimasutaa: remastered オリジナル特典 orijinaru tokuten: original bonus item (like comment DVDs or free goods for buying at a certain store) This is all I could think of but please let me know if you need more.