Himeaimichu 1535 Posted February 16, 2017 32 minutes ago, Zalemu said: Onmyouza is my shiiiiit. I wish they were more popular. Same. Along with Ningen Isu too. They're both truly amazing bands and have been very influential on the Vkei scene itself, even though only the latter is technically Vkei, and even then, Nignen Isu is not widely thought of as Vkei, even though they fit the definition. I think Ningen Isu should be more represented in the Vkei community, having influenced Inugami Circus Dan, Kuroyuri To Kage and Caligari, and they definitely are visual. It's just that their sound has led them to be more associated with Ozzy Osbourne/Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, etc. As most early Vkei bands were doing styles from New Wave British Heavy Metal, Ningen Isu was inspired mostly by older Metal bands, like Sabbath, Priest, and Deep Purple 1 Zalemu reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bear 1817 Posted February 16, 2017 Ningen Isu are amazing. Overlooked as fuck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tokage 5930 Posted February 16, 2017 3 hours ago, AimiGen7 said: Same. Along with Ningen Isu too. They're both truly amazing bands and have been very influential on the Vkei scene itself, even though only the latter is technically Vkei, and even then, Nignen Isu is not widely thought of as Vkei, even though they fit the definition. I think Ningen Isu should be more represented in the Vkei community, having influenced Inugami Circus Dan, Kuroyuri To Kage and Caligari, and they definitely are visual. It's just that their sound has led them to be more associated with Ozzy Osbourne/Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, etc. As most early Vkei bands were doing styles from New Wave British Heavy Metal, Ningen Isu was inspired mostly by older Metal bands, like Sabbath, Priest, and Deep Purple Cali & Kuroyuri influenced by Ningen-Isu? Inugami I'll give you considering their more traditionally straightforward rock-oriented sound, but cali gari's roots definitely lay within the '80s post-punk, goth & new wave scene tbqh 1 r... reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pretsy 1343 Posted February 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Tokage said: Cali & Kuroyuri influenced by Ningen-Isu? Inugami I'll give you considering their more traditionally straightforward rock-oriented sound, but cali gari's roots definitely lay within the '80s post-punk, goth & new wave scene tbqh I have never seen any mentions of Ningen Isu from Ao nor Shuuji either - you've got one guy who's really fascinated about early Japanese post punk, zolo music and prolly these base VK acts (LS, BT) and the other one who's really into synthpop, new wave and similar genre pioneers from the western world. I can get behind Kuroyuri in case it's true though. There are some "Japanesque traditionalist rock" tendencies in Kuroyuri too but merely small frills rather than dominant themes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haruto 60 Posted February 16, 2017 I have always been very picky about my bands and now that all of my favorites disbanded over the last two years, Visual Kei just feels dead to me. If I don't like the vocalist's voice, I can't get into the music. And while there are still some bands I find aesthetically interesting, like the art kei folks, their music isn't my thing at all. All of my friends go crazy about SAVAGE, DADAROMA, MEJIBRAY, MORRIGAN and to me, they all sound awful and I'm getting tired of seeing these same overhyped faces retweeted onto my timelines, so much that I developed a strong dislike, especially against Aryu and his pretentious instagram-Tzk-fanboy life. I actually don't want to lose touch to the scene, I've been a part of this for over 10 years, but I'll be in Japan in a few weeks and not a single concert show but one sounds appealing to me. I'm going to see Gazette's anniversary live for the sake of old times. I had tickets for lynch., then Akinori happened, so that leaves me with one show to attend. In 2012, I was at 16 different concerts. These bands all disbanded or changed for the worse. It's a sad feeling to watch myself grow out of something I love like that. But when I see others fangirling as hard as ever, I think it must be me. 2 aetarna and Zalemu reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Himeaimichu 1535 Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) By influenced by Nignen Isu, in Kuroyuri's case I mostly meant lyrically and concept wise, since both make references to Eroguro Art and Literature in their music. Though I will say that Ningen Isu is more influenced by Edogawa Rampo, whereas Kuroyuri takes more influence from Suehiro Maruo. Though, I will say that Memento Mori, Kuroyuri's old band, is definitely influenced by Ningen Isu soundwise. Though it's not a prominent influence, it's a subtle influence that if it had not existed, would change the band immensely. I believe all influences, no matter how subtle, are important. It's one of the reasons why early Dir En Grey isn't a complete Kuroyume clone. Edited February 16, 2017 by AimiGen7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karma’s Hat 3107 Posted February 17, 2017 I like visual kei 5 Himeaimichu, Mr.0, Seimeisen and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madygrain 515 Posted February 17, 2017 Let's give this thread another go. I think mucc is much better now than back when they were playing heavier stuff. Angelo is worse now since they took in that (ex vidoll?) guy Angelo used to be better than pierrot Gotcharocka is actually pretty good Superfly is all over the place... but sometimes they hit the nail hard Ling Toshite Sigue is not very good X japan new songs are very cool and make me want that album to come out in a not sarcastic and not condescending way. I want a Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas and Aural Vampire crossover EP Motoi Sakuraba should retire 1 Komorebi reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lestat 2167 Posted February 21, 2017 It's not exactly about the music itself, but I am growing tired of the people who say that every band should go in a heavier (a.k.a. 'br00tal') direction. I believe the majority of the current bands already cannot exist without screaming vocalists — leave the clean-singing ones as they are, please. 9 madygrain, violetchain, aetarna and 6 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
platy 3018 Posted February 21, 2017 I don't see how 'utafumi' (DEG) is getting so much praise. It's a really bland song 1 Seimeisen reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takadanobabaalien 3607 Posted February 22, 2017 I think this is an unpopular opinion but: When it comes to the matina label I think Madeth gray'll are quite overrated. Sure they were great but there's bands on the label that I prefer much more. Vice risk, MIRAGE and Syndrome to name a few. 1 Zalemu reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lestat 2167 Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) LACK-CO. are truly a lot better than the people who judged them from merely one song make them out to be. They are quite similar to Develop One's Faculties in their song structures and smart usage of jazzy elements. Very refreshing. Edited February 22, 2017 by Lestat 1 Kaleidoscope reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peace Heavy mk II 7200 Posted February 22, 2017 I miss the 1999~2004 style of vkei promo pics: super blown out faces that are slightly tinted green or orange with early pokemon card-esque backdrops 4 gekiai, Reiko, diryangrey and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Komorebi 2193 Posted February 22, 2017 20 hours ago, Lestat said: It's not exactly about the music itself, but I am growing tired of the people who say that every band should go in a heavier (a.k.a. 'br00tal') direction. I believe the majority of the current bands already cannot exist without screaming vocalists — leave the clean-singing ones as they are, please. Yes, pretty please. 1 hour ago, Lestat said: LACK-CO. are truly a lot better than the people who judged them from merely one song make them out to be. I judged after listening to their whole EP 3 times. DOF is way better imo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
platy 3018 Posted February 22, 2017 This is more in regards to the fandom > Fans that spam 'AAAHH' 'I'm having a fit, I'm dying' 'X is so cuteomfgxD' etc. when a new teaser for a band comes out drive me crazy, specially those that 'ship' band members. e.g people who ship DDRM's Takashi and Tomo, I know they cater to people who do that a LOT but I still think it's irritating/unnecessary. These people are the same ones who usually will just say they're in love with every release from a group, they can do no wrong and every song is 'the best fucking one'. I know music isn't supposed to be criticised every time of the day, but I think it's good to be able to realise that artists will produce weak music and to be critical about it instead of just kissing their ass for everything they do. It just feels like I can't approach any fan of VK (outside of MH) with a negative comment about X band because all they can do is repeat the same mindless shit in Caps Lock, that or I get kicked out of groups. 5 gekiai, emmny, saltofstones and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CAT5 9075 Posted February 23, 2017 On 2/17/2017 at 11:42 AM, madygrain said: Ling Toshite Sigue is not very good Alright guys. Thread closed. 5 beni, Seimeisen, suji and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patientZERO 1066 Posted February 23, 2017 On 2/17/2017 at 11:42 AM, madygrain said: Ling Toshite Sigue is not very good I agree. That dude cannot sing. 1 platy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saishuu 3220 Posted February 23, 2017 2 suji and emmny reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zalemu 236 Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) I have another one: D'espairsray has never stood out to me as a band. They're highly praised by old and new J-rock fans alike and I'm over here like ????????? because I could never get into them. "Forbidden", Maverick and Fuyuu Shita Risou are the only things I can dig. They don't suck by any means, I just don't understand the hype. Edited February 25, 2017 by Zalemu 1 Reiko reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tokage 5930 Posted February 25, 2017 On 23-2-2017 at 6:41 AM, patientZERO said: I agree. That dude cannot sing. Claims-To-Hate-Bad-Singers-But-Listens-To-VK-Anyway The Clown also what do you mean theres a dude??? 1 Seimeisen reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Komorebi 2193 Posted March 1, 2017 On 23/2/2017 at 0:31 AM, CAT5 said: Alright guys. Thread closed. You scared me for a minute there. Also, bandmembers are LITERALLY the ONLY thing I ship, sue me. 2 CAT5 and ShTon reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Biopanda 2675 Posted March 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Komorebi said: You scared me for a minute there. Also, bandmembers are LITERALLY the ONLY thing I ship, sue me. SMH if you don't ship MH members 4 tomika, emmny, suji and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
emmny 4139 Posted March 1, 2017 whats worse than the ddrm shippers are the people who ACTUALLY think tomo and takashi are together and try to offer EVIDENCE...bitch go back to your side of the internet and ship those doctor who characters 8 Seimeisen, gekiai, Komorebi and 5 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itsukoii 1300 Posted March 1, 2017 as long as ur shipping responsibly and not obsessively and not getting deep in the bandoman's business by tweeting him constantly/DMing him and/or his "husbando" , i think it's a-ok. go have fun, kids ,,,but not too much fun 3 Komorebi, ShTon and suji reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suji 8317 Posted March 1, 2017 just let out your bandmen sex fantasies thru fanfiction/fanart ♥♥♥ 2 platy and itsukoii reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites