WhirlingBlack

September 7, 2017

5 minutes ago, hotcocoa said:

I use those towels daily as hand or face towels at home, or when I go hiking or jogging.

But I totally gave up on tote bags, got too many so decided no to get any new for a few years... unless they're Zemeckises bags 😄

That's a good idea, it's just that the shape feels off to me to use as a face towel at home, I like them more... square. Personal preference perhaps.

Tokage · September 7, 2017

On 2017-08-02 at 3:40 PM, returnal said:

the Robot and Lyrics translation blog notes the sources of all the covers on 改造テープ! (virgin blues is listed as a Togawa cover, tho it actually does originate with 野坂昭如; didn't know that 'til now!)

Some of that info is incorrect: SKY HIGH is actually a cover of a 1970s band called Jigsaw.

September 7, 2017

I respect your opinion, even though it's wrong.

On another merch note, I don't know why I keep buying towels, I never ever use them for anything! I have a collection of Dir towels still in their plastic wrap in my wardrobe and it's filling it up. I really need to stop. In fact, any merch other than shirts and sometimes bags (like the EXTREMELY COOL MACABRE BAG) just collects dust in my wardrobe so I'm probably going to cut costs and just focus on those in the future.

September 6, 2017

On 2017-09-02 at 4:57 PM, jaymee said:

Ugh wayyy better than the Mode of Macabre stuff, which was a total let down :/

Disagree, although the dolman sleeve on this tour looks great too, the MACABRE one is the second best only to the Kisou tour one.

The rest of the merch for this tour looks... forgettable. I like how they probably bought like 2000yen garbage cans, slapped a Dir en grey sticker on it and charge 8000 for it.

The phone battery is pretty sweet though, good idea there.

Jigsaw9 · September 6, 2017

By the way, for anyone who might be curious, this was the playlist of the night!

-DJ Dispo set- 22:30 - 00:00 (order might not be 100% accurate)

nattliga_toner · September 6, 2017

Thanks! I hope to see you there next time! It was a huge success, never seen so many people dancing to good music at the same time. We will probably have an event of some sort next month so keep up with our facebook page!

suji · September 5, 2017

I'm meeting Yoshiki for a Q&A session on the 19th of October, if there aren't any news by that point on the album I'll just ask him for a release date.

My best guess is that he'll immediately cancel the Q&A and have his guards escort me off the premises.

maryeon · August 30, 2017

I've actually never had a to hide a drink at a venue. I wonder if it's a being a tall gaijin male perk or something but as long as it's water, no one has ever complained about me bringing drinks from outside despite signs that say otherwise. I just assumed they referred to alcoholic beverages and the likes. Just bring water and don't drink it in the face of the staff and you should be perfectly fine.

Also, for anyone not living in Japan, if you want to attend a decently compact tour, nothing beats buying a Japan Rail Pass. Unlimited travelling with all JR routes is what's enabled me to travel from Sapporo to Fukuoka and back to see Dir en grey tours in the past, and all in pretty great comfort onboard the Shinkansen I might add.

The "bangya culture" is actually pretty unsavory to me as a whole, and when I first came to Japan I was a bit disappointed that the lives weren't the glorious punky chaos I expected, but once you get used to it you sort of just adapt to it just enough to not cause friction while still enjoying the shows on your own terms. That's my tip to any other guys (or girls) who also feel a bit disappointed at times with the atmosphere at the lives, haha. A good advice would be to stand in the back for the first show for a band and watch and see what the fans do, and then decide what you feel good about, and what you don't. I never participate in furi but I'm always game for headbanging and fistbumping and various other things, and since my main band is Dir en grey, that's perfect since there's no furi at their shows, haha.

jaymee · August 22, 2017

Klubb Lunacy is one of Europe's oldest Visual Kei nightclubs, which originally ran between 2004 and 2010. After a 7 years long hiatus, I'm happy to announce that I'm the one who is carrying on the torch and together with the old owner I'm reforming it and intend to make it stronger than ever. The first date is set for 1 of September in Stockholm, Sweden. Six hours of old and new Visual Kei music, a Visual Kei outfit competition with an amazing prize sponsored by RarezHut, and the chance to hang out with over one hundred other fans of this increasingly rare style of music.

And while we hope that some of you might be able to attend this grand revival, we don't intend to limit our activities to Sweden, and would be glad to bring it wherever enough people who are interested might be located, mainly in Europe. So if you have any connections or ideas please feel free to message me and we'll see what can be done!

The clubs Facebook is located here:

https://www.facebook.com/KlubbLunacy/

And the event itself is located here:

https://www.facebook.com/events/1435508826514161/

Most posts have an English version after the Swedish text, so please scroll down if you want more info!

We're glad for any and all support we can get from you guys as we try to bring back some community and party to the fandom!

Also a special thanks to @orange~ who designed our logo!

jaymee · August 22, 2017

I actually saw them perform with Metronome last month in Japan. I went to see Metronome and my friends went to see PLC.

I did enjoy their set, but I've always felt that their theme is kind of cringe-y. But it might be because I'm not into the anime/cosplay world so I don't quite get the point, and it might be one of the reasons I never gave their music much of a shot in the past. I wasn't sold on everything but some of the stuff was quite good, so I might check out some releases again, I think I might even own a few CDs... somewhere... (unsurprisingly, my friends said the songs I enjoyed the most were quite old material.)

Will take recommendations!

jaymee · August 22, 2017

About 4½ but yes, your point still stands, I actually didn't think they gained much overseas exposure until they started putting out their mini albums. I can only speak about the fandom from 2003 (when Batsu started out) and forward but since then at least D'espairsRay have been in fairly good standing. And it's true that the early fandom focused on different bands, but it wasn't until the VK boom that VK fans became a force to be reckoned with in terms of playing concerts and stuff, so I think the point about GLAY, Shazna etc. being of relatively tiny importance to the overseas fandom compared to how it was in Japan still stands. And probably the reverse for a lot of the no name bands that were riding on the VK popularity boom and saw their chance to come overseas and play to audiences of a size they had no business playing to.

To be fair though, I think the American and the European perspective is a bit different and I don't have a lot of knowledge on the early days of the fandom over there, so it could also be that I have a different perspective based on that.

sixnightmares · August 22, 2017

Based on the oneman tours D'espairsRay could do before their first disbandment, I think it's fairly safe to say they had a decently large fanbase in Japan.

Also, as for being the target of dislike overseas, I'm not sure if we were in different circles or what but I distinctly remember them being quite hyped from an early stage, just the fact that they were one of the earliest bands to come to Europe back in 2004 should be proof that they received popularity fairly early here, the shows sold very well too.

I think bangya circles are kind of misleading often as well, because most people have one or at most two bands they hardcore follow and don't usually care much for other bands, so you can often end up thinking that it's representative of the VK fanbase as a whole. Sort of like how overseas VK fans have no idea who GLAY is since they don't have any fans, but in Japan they're one of the biggest VK bands around. It becomes a closed group culture of sorts, just like there are bands that are/were hyped on here that had next to no following in Japan.

August 19, 2017

Was this setlist chosen by vote? If so then their fans should feel bad about themselves. Honestly.

August 11, 2017

They didn't play Akuro no Oka at any macabre shows. I went to them all.

jaymee · August 10, 2017

Why would it be? When they can earn money selling two dvds why would they include the best selling points of one of them in another set?

blacktooth · August 7, 2017

I'm pretty sure that foreign fanbase is an afterthought at best.

That said though, I attended the entire tour and didn't see one single of the many Chinese people present break out in tears, rip their Dir shirts to shreds or try to suicide bomb the venue. I didn't see a single overtly supremacist statement or controversial point beyond a very mainstream "free tibet" deal which makes sense based on their Buddhist backgrounds. It's about as dangerous and edgy as wanting to free Syria from ISIS. I think it's safe to say these "problems" mostly exist in your head, and to be frank you present them in such a convoluted way that I think most people aren't even sure of what you're trying to say.

Let that be an end to this for now, we don't need any "Dir en grey are supremacists" discussions based on hearsay.

August 6, 2017

Are you referring to the tibetan independence stuff during ain't afraid to die?

August 4, 2017

Hello, my old friend. Good to see you found your way here. Come and hang out and hopefully you'll find some cool music along the way!

August 4, 2017

It's a terrible shame. One of their best songs.

August 1, 2017

On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 11:44 PM, EzraEroguro said:

Hey yall, is this an old school batsu thread?

DEADBORN CULT!

I still have that gazette nazi reich rock pic you made somewhere, lol.

July 31, 2017

4. Please especially don't insult the infallible leader of the group.

July 25, 2017

Hi, I remember you. There are a couple of batsu people still around here, most have been lost to time though.

emmny · July 23, 2017

Whenever they play a gig without Sustain the Untruth I feel like I've won the lottery.

jaymee · July 23, 2017

They play the entire album at every date so you should leave satisfied if those are the songs you really want to hear!

Ito · July 21, 2017

I attended two of the shows on this old school tour in osaka and posted them on Facebook. Decides I might just as well repost them here:

Day 1:

"

I just attended the best show of my life, and it was a MUCC live.

The best way I can describe it is as if I went back in a time machine to 2001 and attended one of their oneman lives. They performed only old songs, including tracks so old several fans noticably did not recognize then, like Kranke (my favorite song!) and Koibito. The entire live felt dangerous and rough, just like one of those 90s lives where the audience are headbanging their necks off and the band is taunting them further into a frenzy. Before VK became a polished business.

It was super intense, during some songs the entire audience was moshing and thanks to the intense mosh I ended up in the second row in front of tatsurou during the second half of the live, where I ended up catching him as he stage dived during Orugooru. At the end, when they played Kurutta Kajitsu, we were even ordered to perform a wall of death and delivered it splendidly.

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/mucc/2017/esaka-muse-osaka-japan-2be5b0e2.html

Tomorrow is Homura Uta day... can't wait. Dir en grey, take note. This is how you do nostalgia shows."

Day 2:

"

So... MUCC day 2 was every bit as good as day 1. Homura Uta day, so practically the whole album was performed, along with some songs from Antique and Tsuuzetsu.

Especially the performance of Kimi ni Sachi Are and Kurayami ni Saku Hana stood out as soulcrushingly beautiful, and tracks like Kokuen made the whole audience mosh yet again while Tatsurou kept jumping into the front rows to make us work harder.

Before OYOGE! TAIYAKI-KUN Tatsurou addressed me directly, asking if I knew the lyrics (since I was seemingly the only foreigner at least in the front of the venue). I made an OK sign and he looked surprised and happy and made some comment about it, and then we all sang it together, the entire venue.

During the wall of death during Kurutta Kajitsu today, he jumped into the audience and participated for a bit before being rescued back onto the stage.

To be honest, unless MUCC makes further nostalgia tours, I might not attend any more of their lives in the future. Nothing can top this tour no matter how hard they try. Sure, I'd like to see a Zekuu and Kuchiki no Tou tour as well, but until that happens I might just lay off their lives in the future.

Todays Setlist:

HOMURA UTA (intro)
ZETSUBOU
SHIAWASE NO SHUUCHAKU
KOKUEN
YAKEATO
KARE GA SHINDA HI
KIMI NI SACHI ARE
MAMA
SHIGATSU NO RENGESOU
BOKU GA HONTOU NO BOKU NI TAEKIREZU TSUKUTTA HONTOU NO BOKU
KURAYAMI NI SAKU HANA
USO DE YUGAMU SHINZOU
KAERANU HITO
KOKONOKA
OYOGE! TAIYAKI-KUN
SUISOU
MAE E
SUIMIN

Encore:
YUME NO MACHI
SHOUFU
DAIKIRAI
KURUTTA KAJITSU (WARAI)"

Hope someone here finds it interesting to read!

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