nekkichi 6043 Posted August 5, 2011 Almost agree with this, except IMO you can't put Reiketsu and Red Soil in the same league. Red Soil and ZAN are what I call "cheap" PV's - they had an idea and not near enough cash to make it work so everything comes out looking cheesy. Nariseba is down there with the likes of Machiavellism, MASK and Mr. NEWSMAN for straight up "bad" PV's - like they just took lots of live footage and threw it together for no reason other than to make another PV. I can stand the cheap ones but not the bad ones. I forgot to add grief pv on my list, lol - that was bottom line terrible too. idk, I don't actually mind live pvs, a lot of bands do it from time to time. if they're nicely shot (like machiavellism) than why not? cheap production of most of their recent videos is a major turn off for me though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sai 868 Posted August 6, 2011 Most of their PVs have looked cheap lately, to be honest. They almost seem like an afterthought now, like they are making them just because they have to for promotional reasons. The good ones are few and far between. True, but honestly, I thought the PV for LOTUS was amazing. Also, lol @ cheap greenscreen (reminds me of Lin's greenscreen PV) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karma’s Hat 3107 Posted August 6, 2011 After the Sepultura cover-band finishes it's Dir en grey's turn. I'm really exited to see what songs they are going to play and how Kyo is going to perform the DSS vocals live. UNnNnhnhnhnhnhhghhgh 30 more minutes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
トカゲ 49 Posted August 6, 2011 In ca. 30 min. they're streaming their performance at Wacken 2011, starting at 7.45 pm (UTC+01:00). Dir en grey at Wacken 2011 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dannemannen 69 Posted August 6, 2011 Ill be watching, thanks for the tip! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dannemannen 69 Posted August 6, 2011 omg it started! First song, is that sum belzeebub? Somehow embarresing to watch, because there can't be many spectators that are enjoying this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karma’s Hat 3107 Posted August 6, 2011 They fucked up Different Sense so bad i just died of laughter. Toshiya shut the fuck up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dannemannen 69 Posted August 6, 2011 They fucked up Different Sense so bad i just died of laughter. They are playing it right now? The only fail part was the chorus build up if you ask me, otherwise strong performance. Edit: Concieved sorrow! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marupinku 7 Posted August 6, 2011 I was trying to decide if I should bother going to see them in December. This show has convinced me not to waste the money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dannemannen 69 Posted August 6, 2011 Wow what a great show this became, started out lame and slow but now they are exploding Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karma’s Hat 3107 Posted August 6, 2011 The last three songs went pretty well yeah. I really doubt they are going to play any songs from DSS now, or on the other EU dates. 7th Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dannemannen 69 Posted August 6, 2011 The last three songs went pretty well yeah. I really doubt they are going to play any songs from DSS now, or on the other EU dates.7th Why do you think so? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karma’s Hat 3107 Posted August 6, 2011 Because they didn't now. They didn't play much Uroboros in the tour following that either, to my knowledge same with Moab. I could be wrong though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
minre 13 Posted August 6, 2011 kyo raped my ears, I could barely stomach the concert. and the second half is so stereotypical of them, nothing unexpected. red soil was probably the only one I actually liked. oh well. they just seemed so uninterested, the band. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pretsy 1343 Posted August 6, 2011 The last three songs went pretty well yeah. I really doubt they are going to play any songs from DSS now, or on the other EU dates.7th Why do you think so? THIS IS NOT A DSS-promo tour As they said, they will hold a DSS-related tour in the end of this year - that could be a perfect moment for their DSS-non-single-song promotion My thoughts about the recent fest performance: Kyo, MC for once please Kyo, fire your mixers Toshiya, stop tripping and learn to shout/scream Die, mow your partners for once Shinya, don't get bored Kaoru, play your guitar LOUDER ...well I understand them since they probably couldn't afford the top-notch mixers (instead, they hired the oldie mixers back from 2006 gig in rock am ring lololol) + the whole audience was DEAD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marupinku 7 Posted August 6, 2011 Nevermind, next post got it better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nekkichi 6043 Posted August 6, 2011 http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dir-en-gr ... 09390.html DSS MOO will suck live imho won't bother seeing them live this year, and until next batch of singles arrives (if it does). their tracklists become worse and worse with each year, it's now MOATB + tsumi to kisei + new horrendous obscure + a couple semi-decent songs THIS IS NOT A DSS-promo tourAs they said, they will hold a DSS-related tour in the end of this year - that could be a perfect moment for their DSS-non-single-song promotion where exactly did they say it? FB or something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pretsy 1343 Posted August 6, 2011 ^ Not sure if I remember this correctly but they did inform in OHP (???) that there would be another tour after this worldwide PARADOX OF RETALIATION -tour + (!!!) Example: they started to play all the Uroboros tracks ONLY in the second wordlwide tour back in 2009, same goes for this album All you can do is just to wait for the year 2012, and you will get a chance to hear your Juuyoku Beelzebub-tunes whatever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sai 868 Posted August 6, 2011 LOTUS live was awful. I don't know what Kyo was doing, but it sounded awful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Menzo 6 Posted August 6, 2011 LOTUS live was awful. I don't know what Kyo was doing, but it sounded awful. their was something wrong with his monitors the first few songs.. you saw him looking all the time to the side for help. in the third song or something he did get mad and screamed back at the roadie to fix his stuff because it wasnt fixed yet. maybe thats the reason it didnt sound that good. overall i was very suprised about kyo his performance... better then last 4 years combine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wicked Teletubby 528 Posted August 6, 2011 agreed. but he recovered afterwards. he even didn't screw up Reiketsu which was surprising. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bonsaijodelfisch 328 Posted August 6, 2011 performance was so-so. first half was awful, mainly because of mixing problems and maybe therefor bad monitoringsound, but lets be honest, kyo was always pretty "open-minded" about hitting the right pitch in his clean vocals, so no surpise here, but that bass sound was horrible, what the hell was the soundengineer thinking? those slap parts sounded like an elefants diarrhea... (volume and sound of the guitars was kinda not that great also a lot). second half (i'd say after different sense) was better, quite good actually, but yeah, some MC's of kyo (or whoever) would have helped a lot... i hope for their concerts when they have their own mixer and a sufficient soundcheck it'll be better... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony 1 Posted August 7, 2011 Did anyone record the stream? Would love to see it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wonrei 108 Posted August 7, 2011 ^ Not sure if I remember this correctly but they did inform in OHP (???) that there would be another tour after this worldwide PARADOX OF RETALIATION -tour+ (!!!) Example: they started to play all the Uroboros tracks ONLY in the second wordlwide tour back in 2009, same goes for this album All you can do is just to wait for the year 2012, and you will get a chance to hear your Juuyoku Beelzebub-tunes whatever. And Kaoru said in Haiiro no Ginka that Dum spiro spero would being with PARADOX OF RETALIATION. And Age quod agis is kind of worldwide too.Paradox of Retaliation is only europe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dannemannen 69 Posted August 7, 2011 Did anyone record the stream? Would love to see it. Links removed. I laughed my ass off when kyo screamed at the roadie please next time put the download on the download section. this place are for artist discussion not download sharing. Chianti Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
