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  1. Development: The account was deleted. Not really surprising considering the seriousness of the allegations, the amount of tanuki attention it attracted and the fact that the police are reportedly involved. I might screencap the archive I saved of the account for posterity?


  2. I finally got around to tanuki and it seems she had already deleted many more tweets with pictures of the child (sometimes with Kisaki) and other claims.
    I haven't found any archives of the accompanying text, though. And considering there's probably about 10,000+ posts about the subject I'm not sure if I will...


  3. If you were here early, the translations are complete now. While I was working on them, the OP deleted the pictures of her children. They happen to be in the archive I saved, so if necessary I could crop out everything except Kisaki and his tattoos, but I'm wary about doing so at the moment.

    @colorfuljinsei, thank you for posting the tattoo pic -- I might quote you in the top post so people can find it easily if/when this thread blows up.


  4. (Thank you to @ricchubunny for posting about this in a status, which led to @Chi linking it to me!)
     

    An account on Twitter, @KISAKI54175241, has begun to make some fairly serious claims against Kisaki, so here we are in the rumors section yet again. At the time of this posting the account has 66 tweets and multiple images. I saved an archive of the page at it is at this moment in case anything happens to it, so please let me know and I will post that somewhere.

    Disclaimer: What follows is a translation of allegations made by twitter user KISAKI54175241. I neither endorse nor deny any of the claims made below, and I made a conscious effort to avoid sensationalizing anything in my translations... If you have any questions or feedback in that regard please let me know.

    More importantly some of the content below is disturbing. There are mentions of domestic violence and child sexual abuse. Please read at your own discretion or skip to the summary below if you would like to know what happened without getting into explicit detail.


    KISAKI54175241's posts (oldest to newest, although sometimes self-retweets that reordered her twitter timeline will cause discrepancies)

    Spoiler

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 16h16 hours ago

    I will make a public statement on this Twitter of the facts of what current MIRAGE, ex. Phantasmagoria and ex. Lin member KISAKI (real name: Tadashi Matsuura) has done to me.
                                                                                                       

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 16h16 hours ago

    #PleaseShare #KISAKI #Phantasmagoria #Lin #MIRAGE
                                                                                                       

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 14h14 hours ago
    Acts of abuse were repeatedly enacted on an unwilling child, as seen here. As you can see from the pictures, she was crying and screaming and asking him to stop, but he did not.
    [This tweet is now deleted, but depicted a man with a forearm tattoo bearing resemblance to Kisaki's holding a crying child upside down.]

     

                                                                                                       
    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 14h14 hours ago

     

    He would also force the child to look at his genitals, and force her to touch them.

                                                                                                       

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 14h14 hours ago

    KISAKI-san, completed untrusted even by his ex bandmates

     

    [The image is a conversation between @KISAKI54175241 and Riku.
    R: That's right.
    R: Are you trying to leak my DMs at his request?
    R: So be it, then.
    OP: Do you mean KISAKI-san?
    R: Looks like you got it right.
    R: He asked you to, right? Before, too.]

                                                                                                      


    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 14h14 hours ago

    Is forcing a young child who hasn't even entered elementary school to perform oral sex on you or to touch your genitals, or rubbing your genitals against her behind and becoming erect really something a normal person would do?

                                                                                                     


    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 14h14 hours ago
    He also stated he wanted to ejaculate on her face and that he wanted to penetrate her

                                                                                                     
     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 14h14 hours ago
    He would engage in abnormal bodily contact like persistently touching her anus and like touching her chest. I am consulting with the police about this matter as well.
                                                                                                     
     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 14h14 hours ago

    The child is in a state of mental shock, unable to sleep at night and feeling nothing but fear towards men.

                                                                                                     

     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 14h14 hours ago

    Late at night on the 20th [of August], he suddenly started to fly off the handle and I was so scared I crowded myself into the washroom, where he repeatedly kicked the door, forcibly wrenched opened the door using a screwdriver, pulled my arm, pulled my hair, and thrust scissors at me while threatening to kill me. These are bruises I got on this occasion. I have a medical certificate from the hospital.

     

                                                                                                     

     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 14h14 hours ago
    On this occasion, he drove the scissors into a flier in front of me, I felt like he might stab me at any moment and I was paralyzed with fear.

                                                                                                    

     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 14h14 hours ago
    He also coerced me into fraudulently boosting his BARKS ranking, and liking his tweets.

     

    [The pictures are essentially Kisaki linking her various content and asking her to like it, as claimed.]

                                                                                                     
     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 15h15 hours ago

    I was also asked to post tanuki threads by Kisaki himself

    [Kisaki links her the old thread and specifies the title he would like her to use for the new thread. He said he was unable to do it himself from his phone. He worries that if he doesn't post the thread that someone else will with a 'nonsensical title']

                                                                                                    

     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 13h13 hours ago
    I was so unable to hold back my anger about being treated this way, despite the fact that until now I have sporadically flooded tanuki threads and helped him get articles about his (so-called) Twitter hijacking deleted at his request, that I opened this Twitter. As a person, I cannot forgive him. I want him to get arrested as soon as possible and reduce the number of his victims.

                                                                                                   

     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 13h13 hours ago
    Mentally ill KISAKI.
    He's constantly using Rohypnol and Halcion (Triazolam) almost all day.

                                                                                                   

     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 13h13 hours ago

    He's abusive when he doesn't like something, and he's not satisfied unless you do what he wants. That's the kind of human being he is. I'll never forgive him.

                                                                                                   

     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 13h13 hours ago
    Since he's using all day he was going to multiple internal medicine clinics and collecting medications.

                                                                                                   

     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 13h13 hours ago
    He's the kind of person who controls people with violence and pressure.

                                                                                                   
     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 13h13 hours ago

    A person who pressures those weaker than him, but who's weak himself and can't handle senpai or authority figures.

                                                                                                  
     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 16h16 hours ago
    He told me many times he would kill himself, and used it to manipulate me.

    [K: No. I'm over it again.
    K: It'd be better if I was gone.
    K: Right. It happens all the time. [TN: Not sure about these without context.] Maybe I'll die
    K: Last thing I'll do is leave a will]

                                                                                                  

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 16h16 hours ago

     

     

    These are pictures of some of the times I was assaulted by KISAKI.

     

     

     

                                                                                                  


    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 14h14 hours ago
    The police, Criminal Investigation Division, Community Safety Section, and Juvenile Division are all working on this matter.

                                                                                                  

     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 13h13 hours ago
    KISAKI coerced me into taking photos.

                                                                                                  
     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 13h13 hours ago
    This is unmistakably an incident that took place in KISAKI's home.

                                                                                                  

     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 13h13 hours ago

    I could not oppose KISAKI because he had taken photos of my face while sleeping, and while I was sleeping without any clothing on.

                                                                                                  

     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 13h13 hours ago
    I was also forced to help him raise the prices of his yahoo auction listings. The products in these images would later be cancelled at the seller or buyer's discretion.

                                                                                                  

     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 13h13 hours ago
    "But I treated you to dinner here and there!"
    were his final words to me.
    I paid for meals and such so I couldn't even muster the words.

                                                                                                  

     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 13h13 hours ago
    I flooded the [tanuki] threads with KISAKI countless times.
    He's always checking his own threads.

                                                                                                  

     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 13h13 hours ago

    If he put up La: Sadie's CDs up on his own account he'd be found out, so he asked me to list them.

     

                                                                                                  

     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 13h13 hours ago
    He didn't cut me off, I was gathering evidence so I simply reported him to the police.
    I was the one who requested that we end our relationship.

                                                                                                  

     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 13h13 hours ago

    It's true that I did like him. Midway through, I felt nothing but fear.

                                                                                                  
     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 13h13 hours ago

    We got together because I felt bad for him when he talked to me about the Twitter hijacking two years ago. I thought he was a lonely person.
                                                                                                  
     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 13h13 hours ago
    He did have a nice side, of course, but it's a fact that I noticed his true character midway.
    His unverifiable trash talking of other bandmen.
    The time he spent glued to tanuki every day.
    His threats of suicide over everything.
    I became disillusioned and now we're here.

                                                                                                  
     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 12h12 hours ago
    The reason I made this Twitter is because at first the police wouldn't take it seriously. Now I have help from an acquaintance in the police department and they're investigating.

                                                                                                  
     

    [Please delete the Twitter account. Let's talk.]

                                                                                                 

     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 12h12 hours ago

    It's true that he forced my child to perform oral sex and touch his genitals.
    He said he would take her virginity when she turned 16, and marry her.
    The child is not his.

                                                                                                 
     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 12h12 hours ago

    In regards to the Twitter hijacking, he said that a staff member at the time went rogue and made the tweets.
    Although he used a lawyer to track her down, the staff member had filed for personal bankruptcy so he couldn't collect anything from her.
    I was only shown the emails from the law office, so I don't know to what extent this is true.
                                                                                                 
     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 12h12 hours ago
    He would take out his genitals in front of the child and grab and hit to try to make her touch them.
    I stopped him but he made no efforts to stop [this behavior]. [TN: This is slightly oddly phrased, I'm not 100% sure if this is what she meant. 止めましたがやめようとしませんでした。]

                                                                                               
     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 12h12 hours ago

    Before long he started telling me to teach her how to lick [him].
                                                                                               
     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 12h12 hours ago
    Apparently last year he jumped from the fifth floor of his building, and survived almost unharmed.

                                                                                               


    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 12h12 hours ago
    He told me he wanted to die, I was truly so hopelessly dumb for earnestly worrying about him

                                                                                               


    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 12h12 hours ago

     

    He also coerced me (as well as my child) into licking his nipples.
                                                                                               
     

     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 12h12 hours ago

    I'm not hurting for money, and I have an inheritance in my future, so perhaps he was the one after money.
    My parents are in real estate and business so he told me he wanted to get married after his live in March.

                                                                                               
     

    [This tweet was posted in reply to the bathroom picture]

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 12h12 hours ago
    He would always make my child go with him to the bathroom.
                                                                                               

     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 12h12 hours ago

    My father and a friend in parliament are prompting the police to act. I want him to be arrested as soon as possible.

                                                                                               

     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 12h12 hours ago
    The police are currently investigating footage from when I fled to the elevators in KISAKI's apartment complex when he assaulted me. I hope it serves as proof, but...
                                                                                               

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 11h11 hours ago

    I also helped get this account suspended.


    [This is the "Thanks to your report we found this Twitter account to be in violation of our rules" screen.]

     

     

                                                                                              
     

    [A medical report detailing her bruises in keeping with her tweet about seeking medical treatment after the assault.]

     

                                                                                              
     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 10h10 hours ago
    I intend to get a medical certificate from the psychotherapy clinic early next week.
    For my child as well.

                                                                                            
     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 10h10 hours ago
    When I was married, he showed me his bank account and urged me to get a divorce.

                                                                                            

     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 10h10 hours ago

    He'd constantly tell me he wanted me to get divorced.
                                                                                            
     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 10h10 hours ago

    I'm too scared to go out now.
    I submitted the medical certificate to the police, I hope it helps him get arrested as soon as possible.

                                                                                            

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 7h7 hours ago
    After he abused me he would coerce me into sexual acts against my will, telling me I had to listen to him, and the truth is that after that I became unable to defy him.

                                                                                            
     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 7h7 hours ago
    He would ejaculate inside of me without protection.
    Thankfully I didn't get pregnant

                                                                                            
     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 7h7 hours ago
    Of course he was nice at first.
    He fawned over her like she was his own.
    But only at first.

    [This tweet has since been deleted, but originally it contained a picture of a man presumed to be Kisaki, identifying tattoo visible, with a very young girl beside him playing a driving video game together. I'm not sure if the tweet was deleted but I assume it might be for the girl's safety. I will come back and post an edited version with only Kisaki visible later].
                                                                                            
     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 6h6 hours ago
    There seems to be some people who are misunderstanding, but I'm a divorcee.

    I did not have an affair with him.

                                                                                            

     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 5h5 hours ago

    This is the CD I was actually made to list

                                                                                            

     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 4h4 hours ago

    I'm not living with him

                                                                                            

     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 4h4 hours ago
    The claim that I appeared in pornography is completely untrue

                                                                                            
     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 4h4 hours ago

    I'm not making any posts on tanuki

                                                                                            

     

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 4h4 hours ago
    Of course I feel guilty about my child.
    I was divorced and mentally vulnerable and I depended on him, and became brainwashed...
    And hurt my child because of it.
    I have nothing but regret.
    I may have been afraid but I regret not getting away from him right away.

     

    NEW:

    KISAKI暴露‏ @KISAKI54175241 2h2 hours ago

    I deleted the photos of the child

     

    The translation as the account stands at 2:28 PM -6:00 GMT is complete.

    This picture provided by @colorfuljinsei (originally from Kisaki's official twitter?) can serve as a tattoo placement/design reference if you would like to do any comparisons.

    Spoiler

    DX8R8ebVoAAbyqB.jpg



    In summary, Kisaki has been accused of:
    -Inappropriate sexual contact with a young child
    -Domestic violence
    -Being a habitual benzo seeker/user
    -Being suicidal and using this as a manipulation tactic
    -Astroturfing tanuki, working to have critical articles and twitters suspended
    Allegedly, these matters have been brought to police.


  5. Ry:dia - アナタノセナカ
    words/Rio
    music/soh

    最後の言葉を思い出す 今更淚の訳を探す
    時の流れに追いつけない 確かに愛がぞばにあったから

    あなたのいない部屋 一人耽り影見つめ続ける日々
    終らない空想と追憶が時を止めて離さない

    あなたの涙を思い出す 時を戾せるならと俯くけれど
    覗き込む影が笑っているよう もっと包み込めたはずなのに...

    無数の刃が血液の流れに逆流するよう
    素敵なあの日の出会いさえ否定する涙 離さない

    最後の背中を思い出す いつもより小さく見えたあなた
    震える鼓動を抱き諦めれず ただ見送るしかなかった

    数々の追憶 欠片へとなり ガラスのように透けてゆき
    そして氷のように溶けて 消えてゆくのか? 何もなかったかのように...

    最後の言葉を思い出す 今更淚の訳を探す
    時の流れに追いつけない 確かに愛が...
    あなたの涙を思い出す 時を戾せるならと俯くけれど
    時の流れに追いつけない 確かに愛が...
    最後の背中を思い出す いつもより小さく見えたあなた
    時の流れに追いつけない 確かに愛が...

    これもひとつの運命だとしたら いつか受け入れるしかないけれど
    時を逆に流れ 狂うように想いに耽る あなたがすべてだったから
    どれだけ愛しあって 手を縛りあっても 壊されることもあると知った
    気がつけば季節が廻っているまでゆっくり 暖かい追憶へ浸ろう


    just like last time if you need romaji/eng let me know


  6. sometimes i used what Jojo sings and sometimes i used what the lyrics say. it doesn't really change the meaning, just the sound/flow.

    The Gallo - KERBEROS

    the gourmets of the underground gather on the other side of the great capital
    tonight's luxurious menu is a full-course meal fragrant with nightmares


    cut a cross into the constellations, i offer a prayer before this meal


    i invited your selfish self to the forbidden Tartarus
    and began the meal


    i suck the full-bodied apertif dripping from between your legs on the gallows
    i dripped it onto a black rose


    a sauce of menstrual blood paints the hors d'oeuvre
    whetting the appetite
    agonizing over your sobbing, i devour you with despicable manners


    showered in your juices tinged with the heat of your body
    i gouged out your womb
    i drive my fork into your heart
    and curse the fate of the gourmet


    i invited your selfish self to the forbidden Tartarus
    and began the meal


    i rip out your entrails on the gallows and suck the rich meat juices
    i dripped them onto a black rose


    a sauce of semen paints the main dish
    whetting the appetite
    agonizing over your corpse, i devour you with despicable manners


    in order to discipline you, so greedy for love,
    i cut off your head in the name of Death


    showered in your juices tinged with the heat of your body
    i gouged out your womb

    i drive my fork into your heart
    and ridicule the fate of the gourmet

    in your final moments i garnish my dessert with your life and sing of hell


  7. the title isn't fashion misery but fashion maisurii (myslee, a brand name for ambien in japan)

    Fashion Ambien - Shellmy

    at four in the morning, you're over-medicated
    and bawling in your delusions:
    "no one but me"
    "no one but me"
    "no one but me"
    so much that it's annoying
     

    can't find it, asking the meaning of life
    even if you turn on a light it's not there
    logic oozed, reason ignored
    silent with a troubled face

     

    "you won't love me"
    "i'm unloved"
    tell it like it's a pet saying
    you tell me you've had enough of your repetitive routine
    without any intention to change it
     
    call yourself mentally ill, with a habit of faking illness
    begging for attention with psychotropics, hilarious!
    pretending to put yourself down by saying we're just pretending to be friends
    cringe! cringe! cringe! cringe!
    call yourself manic, able to handle gore
    you follow the handbook perfectly, hilarious!
    "looking at blood calms me down"
    cringe! cringe! cringe! cringe!
    dressed up in sick girl make up
     

    day in and day out you refuse to cooperate
    wishing you were alone
    stories about your family
    stories about being bullied
    human relations
    who gives a fuck

     
    you love sweets, you love handsome boys
    you love money, but you're mentally ill
    you give up on everything the moment it's not going well
    less intellect than a two year old
     

    "i have no friends"
    "no one believes me"
    tell it like it's a pet saying
    society loves cheerful, beautiful people
    eyes surrounded by dark circles aren't worth a thing
     

    call yourself mentally ill, with a habit of faking illness
    a night owl whore, hilarious!
    "my ideal type of man is an anime character"
    cringe! cringe! cringe! cringe!
    you get what you deserve, you're the scum of the earth
    you only wear the latest fads, hilarious!
    persuading them by saying you're just lonely
    and sleeping with men you don't know
    you're fashionably mentally ill, you want people to worry about you
    you're so lonely, how sad!
    you're alone again today, praying for tomorrow
    relying on Ambien
    hope hope hope
    laughing at your over-effective medication
    consoling your cringeworthy self
    getting off with toys is so hollow
    cringe! cringe! cringe! cringe!
    you're lonely today too
    it's almost time


  8. @nekkichi is correct, and it is also important to consider the culture of the boards as well. Even in the English-speaking world, a report of rape or murder or suicide will be presented in a much different way on Twitter or Tumblr than on say, 4chan or Encyclopedia Dramatica. Tanuki/2ch are extremely blase and candid about sordid topics and sounding "self-pitying" (for lack of better words) would be extremely frowned upon given the board's culture. It is not a nice place. People mock suicide victims and eagerly discuss their desire to commit child abuse. While I understand the reports are just as unverifiable as anything else on Tanuki, it seems irresponsible to make judgments on what a woman's report on this type of thing "should sound like", especially for those who are not familiar with the posting culture & for those who haven't experienced or witnessed the societal and scene-specific issues mentioned in the post above.


  9. On 7/23/2018 at 8:19 AM, YuyoDrift said:

    Can someone translate this little tidbit from their interview with Gekirock earlier this month?

    Spoiler

    -The "90s factor" has been coming up as a keyword on a few occasions. What was the timing for this keyword first emerging?

    Hazuki: When I first submitted song GROTESQUE to the band. When I was writing it, I was smiling to myself thinking it was interesting (laugh); the intro and lead guitar are rife with that out-of-this-world feeling. I was interested in the idea of doing a sound with this feeling with lynch. as we are now, and when I actually made the demo and tried it out, it was cool. I figured we could pull it off, and looking around there doesn't seem to be many people doing [that type of song] right now, so I figured it was a great opportunity. (laugh) So the "90s" was already out there as a keyword at point where I sent the data for GROTESQUE to all the members.

     

    -lynch. is probably the only band that makes the homage to the VK indies scene 20 years ago that can be felt from GROTESQUE sound cool, with the vocalizations making incredible use of distortion, and those hysteric feeling guitar tones and phrases.

     

    Hazuki: Sick, right? (laugh) That said, if you ask me if it's a direct replica of the sound of our roots, I'd say no. It was created with a sense of subdued nuance, like: "I feel like there was a band that did music like this back then, but who?", so we didn't just imitate the sound as-is. Rather the song gives off the suggestion of the feeling [of 90s vk] in its own way. I think it's interesting to drop a track like this in the current era.


     

    On 7/24/2018 at 7:25 AM, Jeen said:

    If someone also bought it and speak/read japanese (there is subtitles), i'am interested in a summary of what they say in the document ^^; (i feel stupid to bought it for this reason, but well, it was just for the collection) 

    this is something i'd like to do, maybe give me a few days


     

    On 7/24/2018 at 10:34 AM, Komorebi said:

    Do you feel it's worth getting it? Because it's the one I want to buy.

    i feel like the people who would benefit the most from the document are the people who are interested in the friendship dynamic of the band, or people who want to know more about the circumstances behind AK's return. so, the focus is less the band as a musical unit and more the band as a group of people. if you want music, wait for the Messe DVD/blu-ray. that said i loved it and the clip of AK's triumphant return made me cry lmao

     

    i translated all the lyrics on tumblr if that's of interest to anyone: http://c-u-l-t-i-c.tumblr.com/
    lyrically this album isn't as interesting as some past entries (i really liked AVANTGARDE for this), but the GROTESQUE/JØKER pair is interesting, and FAITH + SENSE OF EMPTINESS are up my alley.


  10. these were the bands i associate with the zeitgeist of mid-late 00s visual kei fandom in the west. only some of them are legendary because they were actually good, but they all defined the era, for me. the bands people were talking about during this time in JP were obviously very different. but nobody specified what kind of legendary we're talking about :^)
     

    Ancafe, D'espairsray, Nightmare, Gazette, Dir, Alice Nine, Miyavi, Kagrra, ReS, Psycho le Cemu, LM.C, SID (Aki fangirls)
    12012 (Wataru)/Phantasmagoria (Kisaki)

    Vidoll? Ayabie? D? Versailles? girugamesh (at least the meme)?

    "con bands": Duel Jewel and BLOOD/Kiwamu


  11. 26 minutes ago, saiko said:

    Btw, what's "harcon"? "Harassment complex" maybe? 

     

    I think it's supposed to be ハード (Hard, like hardcore?) + コンパ (Konpa = mixer), similar to ヤリコン (fuck+mixer, basically a party for hookups). But no one seems to know the origin of the name for sure.

     

    27 minutes ago, saiko said:

    And what are your thoughts on the roadie system, and its disappearance into the current idolification process?

    I'm not really sure what to say about it. On one hand, it seems like the roadie system had its benefits and the relationship could be very important to both parties. I was watching the last lynch. blu-ray that came out with the commentary on, where the roadie system came up in conversation. They talked about Ai from DARRELL/DEATHGAZE's previous band, Otogi, and Hazuki mentioned that Otogi had literally a dozen roadies onstage at their disbandment live all crying hysterically because they genuinely cared about the band. Reo (who is older than the other members of lynch. and has a lot more connections in the '98-'04 era VK world) mentioned that he thought that the roadie system allowed for a lot of learning experiences, however it also made a lot of bitter memories when it was basically a glorified way of hazing and abusing people. He implied that he didn't want to cause any of his kouhai to have the bitter memories many people seemed to have from the roadie system. (I should relisten to the commentary later since this is just from memory.)

    I also think the near-elimination of the system means fewer talented people being railroaded or turned off of the genre just because a senpai doesn't like them, or because they can't "handle" being treated like a whipping boy, or because they may not otherwise fit in. These girls could be right that it means that even shittier people aren't being weeded out though, or that the barrier for entry is too low for bandmen with no ambitions aside from mitsu money and fuckbuddies... Especially if you do consider that there is more an emphasis on selling yourself as available directly to fans than there used to be. (Imagine any of the bands from this era doing "hug sessions".)

    I think the internet would have mostly killed the band vertical hierarchy anyway even if visual kei hadn't started adopting more and more "idol-ish" tactics (i.e. selling personal rapport or the illusion thereof to fans) -- it's happening everywhere now, people are able to just create and distribute music from their homes without much budget or equipment and enter a niche without outside help or an "in". It's still not totally gone though... just look at Tsuzuki/Genki and Koichi's blacklisting from venues.


  12. If I have permission from an admin, then I'll drop the highlights.
    Mostly I just don't want anyone to think I'm doing it to smear the bandmen in question or attempting to pass anything off as an absolute truth. The stories about Harcon in particular are generally considered to be a mix of truths, half-truths, exaggerations and total fabrications.
     

    The following is a selection of posts just from this archived Harcon thread:
    http://old.bbs.2ch2.net/admin/readkako.cgi?bbs=visualtanuki&key=1223287368

    Byou is called by his real last name throughout the thread, I've replaced it in the translation. Also, some of the content below is disturbing.
     

    Spoiler

     

    25 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/06 19:29
    My friend had her hair pulled by Daisuke
     

    39 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/06 19:33
    I had my hair pulled and I got hit hard
    Kyo is trash for raising his hand to women

    48 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/06 19:35
    When I was going the girls [Kyo] hates would have their heads held and be forced to drink, he'd watch them crying and cackle
    That really creeped me out
     

    61 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/06 19:39
    Before at Harcon I fucked Daisuke and Kyo pointed and laughed, Kyo hated me lmao. Fine by me because Daisuke is my fav lol

    81 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/06 19:45
    I had a drinking contest with Kyo and I won, but when he sobered up he kicked my ass \(^o^)/

    113 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/06 19:57
    He'd make girls strip and compare their pussies, tell them they smelled and put bottles of booze in them
    I want to forget \(^O^)/
     

    123 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/06 20:01
    Kyo laughed at Daisuke's cutting scars and I was stunned, as you might expect
     

    126 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/06 20:01
    My friend had her hair pulled by Daisuke


    129 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/06 20:02
    >126
    He plucked my pubes


    172 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/06 20:16
    Kyo ripped my high school uniform and I had to go to school in a jersey

    255 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/06 20:42
    If you fucked around with your phone you'd get drinks poured on you
    Some bandman who was messing around taking pictures got choked

    271 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/06 20:59
    I got passed around between Daisuke and Tatsurou lmao

    73 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/06 21:03
    Daisuke dragged me to the bathroom and fucked me lmao
    I was surprised because I thought he was the submissive type

    340 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 02:06
    Ah, the past, when I got raped by creepy Kisui and [Dir staff] Yubisui...

    344 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 02:26
    Daisuke and Satsuki and Gara and Tatsurou were doing rape-y things. Too late now, though.

     

    349 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 02:47
    We played 3 character shiritori (a drinking game) and I was forced to drink so much brandy on the rocks
    I blacked out for the first time in my life lol
    And there was a day where the money disappeared from my wallet without me noticing
    Now I can laugh about it

     

    354 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 02:58

    >349
    Hold up lmao, same here lololol

     

    355 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 02:58

    >349
    Same happened to me and my friend and she got taken home by one of them orz
     

    356 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 03:00

    >355
    I got raped in public right then and there lol

     

    367 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 03:05
    Takes me back... Those were pretty fun times. Everyone would get smashed and when I sobered up we'd all be laid out in the room in the evening.


    379 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 03:10

    >367
    I woke up naked and covered in puke in the bathroom lol
    When I quietly looked around outside the bathroom there were a ton of totally naked gya laid out lol

     

    387 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 03:12
    Kyo would make shit up and fight randos at the bar
    That was 6 years ago though

    392 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 03:14
    Daisuke laughed when my friend got taken away by the ambulance for acute alcohol poisoning

     

     

    396 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 03:15

    >392
    I too am familiar with the Daisuke that laughs at girls while disparaging them lol
     

    399 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 03:17

    >396
    Daisuke would immediately start pulling girls' hair and screaming, right?
    He was so problematic when he was with Kyo
     

    405 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 03:18
    A long time ago I got drunk and put my head in Daisuke's lap and he got hard instantly and it made my heart race lol
     

    410 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 03:19

    >399
    Yep. I got laughed at while he called me ugly lol
    He acts good in front of [Kyo] but then talks about him rudely when they're separated lol

     

    414 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 03:21

    >410
    Daisuke's personality is shit
    He's definitely hard on ugly women

     

    417 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 03:23

    They'd be murderously pissed at girls who brought girls who weren't cute lmao
    I got told to go home, as expected...
     

    420 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 03:25

    >417
    Yes!!!
    So they'd emphasize that you HAD to bring a cute girl lol
     

    430 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 03:28

    425
    That's why Kyo would invite you to drink after checking your looks lol
    A little audition lmao

     

    440 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 03:30

     

    Gara was really demanding that I let him feel my tits once lmao

     

    453 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 03:33

    I saw [Byou] forced to get naked a lot lol


    463 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 03:35
    Kyo beating up passerby with Daisuke was basically routine.

     

    472 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 03:37
    [Byou] was miserable, he'd cry a lot
     

    473 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 03:37
    Ugly girls would get cucumber sticks put in them and forced spread eagle

    476 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 03:37
    Kyo told me I was dumber than a pigeon
     

    483 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 03:39

    [Byou] is Daisuke's slave
     

    487 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 03:40

    >483
    For sure lolol
    He was always getting hit, I felt bad

     

    486 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 03:40
    When I told Daisuke to give me his number he snapped my phone in half lmfao

     

    490 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 03:41

    >477
    I wonder how [Byou] is doing. I felt so bad I tried to look after him but Shizumi forced me to go back to Kyo.
     

    495 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 03:43

    >490
    Same LMAO
    I also tried to look after [Byou] but he told me to go talk to Daisuke looool
    Shizumi, lolol

     

    505 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 03:45

    Daisuke called me stupid and hit me \(^o^)/


    588 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 04:03
    Daisuke made [Byou] jack off
    After that he made him sing Idol-gurui [by Kagerou]
     

    594 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 04:05

    >588
    Did he cum?
     

    597 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 04:05

    >594
    He'd get his ass beat if he didn't ejaculate, sooo
    He did


    613 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 04:09
    Bansaku knocked someone up at Harcon, kicked her stomach and made her miscarry


    618 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 04:11
    >613
    Trash, as always
    Pregnant girls were a nuisance to him so he'd push them on Takumi from Gimmick
    That's why Takumi's drowning in debt

    620 名前:名無し 投稿日:08/10/08 04:11
    I don't want Screw fans telling me they feel bad for [Byou]
    This is the vertical society of bands
    Now we don't have a vertical society so there's been more dumbass bands

    [thread derails into old band culture talk and talk of non-harcon related bandmen]

     


    I also found some thread about bandmen and fighting but it's mostly about extremely early vk bandmen (RAPES, Charisma, Dynamite Tommy, X, LUNA SEA). I'll come back with those highlights when I have some time!


  13. big ol reminder that i'm not writing this as an insider or anything but as a nerd who reads a lot of tanuki rumors
     

    Kyo's drinking party was ハーコン/Harcon and the members are sometimes called ハーディー/Hardy, for anyone who wants to look it up themselves.

    I can't say I remember everyone who's been mentioned as a member but:
    Kyo
    Daisuke & other Kagerou members
    Gara & other Merry members
    Tatsurou & other MUCC members
    Satsuki
    Kisui
    Wataru (ex. 12012)
    Some combination of baroque/kannivalism members
    Byou (as Kagerou's roadie)
     

    Daisuke and Kyo are probably the ones you'll read the most about. A lot of the stories seem to indicate the old vertical hierarchy/roadie culture (e.g. Kyo bosses around Daisuke, who bosses around Byou) which seems to have died somewhat with the idolification of visual kei in the last 10 or so years. There are threads specifically about Harcon but I don't really know how I feel about translating them because they have some fairly serious allegations...

    The story about Ruka getting his ass beat by Yayoi/Yuuga is pretty famous too, but the details aren't really clear. Just everyone seems to know Yayoi and Yuuga wanted Ruka's ass beat and then it happened. One version I read is that Kazane from the Anarchist Records band Misery took the blame for it for a while, but that was because Yuuga pinned it on him after Yayoi ordered Yuuga to beat him up. Folding chairs were allegedly involved in the beating in the most often retold version of the story. Kisaki may or may not have intervened. The only reason I ever heard for this was that Yuuga and Yayoi got tired of him having a stank attitude and not greeting them properly.


  14. 12 minutes ago, Kiyoharu is God said:

    Anyway, FAITH is supposed to be a hommage to something? You read that and my first though was to go straight to '90s VK. But, the chorus' melody sorta sounds like KIYOHARU's LAST SONG?

    this is totally out my wheelhouse but everyone was bringing up the shouts from Kuroyume's 親愛なるDEATHMASK ?? some people have also suggested "sister"

    and from the lyrics:
    ・God only knows/信仰 → apparently a Kuroyume reference somehow idk
    ・shura no niwa → Lamiel song title
    ・hari no niwa → Laputa song title


  15. 1. D.A.R.K.
    2. greedy dead souls
    3. AVANTGARDE
    4. XIII (tentatively, i'm still kind of riding the high of this album atm while the rest have had 2+ years to age)
    5. THE AVOIDED SUN
    6. I BELIEVE IN ME
    7. GALLOWS
    8. SHADOWS
    9. INFERIORITY COMPLEX
     

    the buried doesn't count imo bc it's just underneath the skin (their best non-album) + a selection off greedy dead souls

    my philosophy for picking these is "if they dedicated a show to each album, which ones would i most want to go to and which ones would i expect to be the least suited to me?" and it's based entirely on how fun i remember the songs from the various albums being live (or how fun i imagine them being, in the case of XIII).

    i had a similar experience with SHADOWS, though. it was great when it came out but it didn't hold my interest as more stuff was released.


  16. i feel like you can make a good case for IBIM with -273.15℃/tiamat/IBIM (the song)/(+this coma/lie/before you know it even though they're rare now) because they're enjoyable live, but if they never played anything but New Psycho from Inferiority live again i wouldn't be mad lmao. on the other hand, if they stopped playing outrage/killing cunt/invader!!!/F.A.K.E./unelma i would never forgive them.

    the one thing i can say about lynch. fans is i can never predict which albums they'll say are their favorites or even which songs they enjoy live the most. for their most recent fanclub tour where they played their entire discography, there was a bingo sheet going around where you put the 9 songs you wanted to hear the most at the shows you attended. most of the cards i saw all had very different picks...


  17. idk maybe i'm not articulating myself well -- i've been to a lot of lynch. lives and it's not so much that it's the latest material being featured but there are other songs on GALLOWS aside from GREED + GALLOWS, other songs on AVANTGARDE besides THE OUTRAGE SEXUALITY + UNELMA  and yet we very rarely hear them after the album tour unless it's a special occasion.

     

    lynch. is the only major band i follow so if this is standard for bands with larger discographies (playing only the single(s) from the albums down the line to death) i have nfi and i'm not a huge fan of it


  18. y'all are weird AVANTGARDE was better than SINNERS

     

    overall i like this album, although FIVE seems like the most obvious choice for "should have been cut" even though the idea of giving everyone a feature because they're all back together is cute cause it's forgettable as hell. i really like OBVIOUS (shame about the DIES IRAE self-cover portion) but it's mostly because it gives me 07-09 lynch. flavor and i can 100% picture how it goes down at lives. ultimately tho my favorites are AMBLE, SENSE OF EMPTINESS, FAITH & GROTESQUE.

    but mostly i wish they would take a break from the album/album tour format for a few years. every album separates into what songs are going to be regulars and what songs we're never going to hear again after the album tour except at fanclub shows. if you're going to treat most of the album like a b-side soon, i don't really know what the point is. or maybe this is normal for major bands with large album outputs?

     

     

    also tetsu from d'erlanger for some reason has his own special thanks line in the booklet... did i miss if the members mentioned why? did he lend asanao something?


  19. Spoiler

    此ノ世界ノ果テ
    詩/緋那 曲/摩稀

    見果てぬ夢に全てを捧げよう
    空虚なこの世界 望みなど無い

    美しいものだけ見つめていたい
    目蓋を閉じたなら思いのままに…

    歯車廻す群れの中キチガイ気取れ
    無情なこの世 取り残されて

    美しいものだけ集めていたい
    目蓋を閉じたなら見せられて行く…

    夢と現の狭間で狂しいのは誰
    影と踊り泣き笑う白昼の夢遊病者

    「うつし世は ゆめ よるの夢こそ まこと」

    見果てぬ夢に全てを捧げよう
    私は枯れる この世は残る

    醜い情景に染まりたくない
    目蓋を開けたなら奪われていく…

    絶望は想いを殺す 夢は夜開く
    神と成り地獄を描く 真実は此処に在る


    (if you would like more than just the kanji i.e. romaji/translation lmk)

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