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  1. Posted

    7 hours ago, suji said:

    I heard that the Brazilian guy has actually been in Japan since he was 6 yrs old, so there's something for ya i guess :v

    Didnt even notice hes not japanese from the ESP video.

     

    3 hours ago, chemicalpictures said:

     they are probably going to outsell mejibray

     

    Even tho they wont be anything for me - if they're serious and continue im 100% sure they will outsell mejibray easily since they probably arent limited to the "small" vk scene and can appeal to other rock fans and also to some japanese that are "omg foreigner so kakkoi!!" (instead of the feeling here "omg brazilian this sucks"). Depends what they aim for/going for.

  2. Posted

    On 5/3/2018 at 7:36 PM, yakihiko said:

    Those are unreleased songs? Never noticed them.

    Following them since 2014 i know maybe 5-10 songs they played live but didnt release. But most of them dont fit their last style of "sexy vk" and go back to more of their "hard band" start so i doubt they'll ever be released. Also maybe one of the old members wrote them and they dont want to release it as their song (but also i think Cion wrote nearly all songs himself?). But still i really would love it to listen CRAMMY recorded, it was very fun live.

    Also, Ab initio is one of their best songs, hope they'll include it.

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  3. Posted

    For me, somehow they start to get repetitive already, especially their song structures and really obviously the vocals (I mostly like what hes doing, but i feel hes out of ideas already and does the same thing in every song). 終日終わり is your typical filler song and i defintly heard those riffs in 死魔流し before. Still liking them and especially that bass! Wonder how many fans are at their lives, i can imagine they were one of the fastest growing vk indies in the last year(s)?

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  4. Posted

     

    15 hours ago, Saishu said:

    So it’s Utafumi all over again. I’m guessing that the jolting transition into the first chorus is due to something missing. More to the first verse maybe?

    I feel the transition into the first chorus is good but from the chorus into the bridge, I feel there is a cut at 01:18/01:19 in the guitar cover version/radio song. Maybe there could be another part connecting the chorus and bridge missing? But could just be me, feels so sudden and not smooth for me. Also at 02:26 i feel somethings missing connecting the following part.

    Also I love the drumming especially from 00:38, dont know why there seems much bashing towards Shinya (but im no drummer so idk skillwise).


    Otherwise im really hyped.. the video, kyos look, the いきてる (?) part. Really looking forward to it.

  6. Posted

    3 hours ago, Mamo said:

    Just gonna ignore the leader/main song writer part but the most skilled member? LMAO on what planet?

    I felt so when seeing them live. I'll be honest, i always didnt pay much attention when they played the 3-5 times i saw them (always went for other bands), just felt so. I have only basic knowledge of drums/can play easy things, but (or maybe because of that) i often feel the drummer in a vk is the most/only skilled person (live).

    How often did you see them live to support your statement? I dont care for studio recordings in visual kei when talking about skills btw.

  8. Posted · Edited by filth_y
    Added another example

    Many of マーブルヘッド's songs/riffs are so blantly copied from the GazettE, but more interestingly, while its only an intro, i think they used the intro from 泣ヶ原 (5th song from DIM) just in their song/intro 《 – 知育 – 》 from their Mini 僕等の曲天烈大百科4. While its only 2 seconds taken i wonder it counts as like sampling or just stolen. Noone might even notice since its just 2 seconds, but i noticed immediatly. (No video for the マーブルヘッド song unfortunatly since its just an intro).

     

    Edit:

    Example: 第2話『-通勤途中の悪夢…難産、、グリングリン星人。-』 (02 from 僕等の曲天烈大百科) is a mixture of at least 3 the Gazette songs (first minute is DOGMA) mixed with some "new"/crazy/funny things. The latter are the ones that justify マーブルヘッド as a band for me other band just being a blant copy band.

  10. Posted

    On 2.4.2018 at 4:10 AM, Biopanda said:

    Nice! Glad to see Kyotaro back in a VK band once again. I know he's been dipping his toes back into the VK scene over the past two years by participating in a couple VK session bands (with the same members as this band, unsurprisingly).

    I noticed the session too and was wondering if he moved to Tokyo. Would be really cool if they are Tokyo-based. I felt COCKROACH. played too rarely in Tokyo and i didnt want to fly to Sapporo everytime to see Kyotaro live, lol.

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  11. Posted

    I kept an eye on them since some of their first lives and was suprised they lasted this long after many member changes.

    But now I didnt expect disband this at this point, thought they will go on for 1-2 more years. Especially not after seing this nice video from Chaotic Harmony:

    They didnt have huge crowds at the lives i went, but not too bad either. 

    I've often seen them when walking around Shinjuku or Ikebukuro before their lives, especially their drummer was so nice/sweet.

    But i strongly believe we will see some members in new bands.

     

  12. Posted

    1 hour ago, platy said:

    What are they like live? 

    Not that bad i think. Instrumentally-wise good and most of the members look really good/cool in reality (well, everyone except the vocalist). However, while i could get used to their (objectively quite bad) vocalist on CD since it somehow fits to the atmosphere, it doesnt translate very well live for me. Just sounds like every note he sings is wrong/crooked.. But his low screams arent bad, suprisingly! (his high ones horrible on the other hand^^). He was hugging a big pillow nearly the entire time while singing (since its a while ago, im not sure but i think while the last song he threw it in the audience and asked them to return it, which they did).

    If you like them on CD you should give them a shot, i just dont need to see them a 2nd time. I can still enjoy them a lot on CD/PV.

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  14. Posted

    16 hours ago, karai · ebi said:

    There's also 1 used copy of 食べたい on amzjp for 53$ and I thought I saw another earlier for 63$ but I can't remember what site I was on. (I can't afford that for one single  lol)

    Gotta love how 食べたい was always 100-500 yen on auctions until they released お邪魔します. 

     

    I always enjoy watching prices of live solds of new bands on auctions without even buying them. Horrible new band but not shared yet? 3000-5000 yen. Shared? 500 yen. Haha.

  17. Posted

    yOshi also sings in some other bands, but in a style that totally wouldnt fit envy imo. I thought he would step down a little from music after his marriage last year.

    Hiroki is the best drummer from all bands i've seen in japan over the years imo. Such a beast on the drums and nice guy on top.

    I thought envy was kind of idol for killie but especially for hiha, so i guess the guys must have been really happy to support them :) 

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  18. Posted

    2 minutes ago, Mamo said:

    They only released 2 live limited singles right? Not even close to 10 or 15 songs.

    No, they released more. You can find 3 CDs on their homepage, but they released more.

     

    But you understood me wrong i think. They have around 10 to 15 songs they play at their lives (usually 4 to 6 songs at one live). Some of those are released, some of them arent. But this is the case for like most bands i think. However, the background guitars, intros, effects etc. playing as "playback" seemed so finished, that i thought they recorded those songs already (thats why i thought they would release a single or mini album this year). But seems these songs will never see the light of day (except if you have live recordings that you can listen to). Thats why some people love live recordings ("terekos") from small bands that have only 1 live distr. but dozens of songs they only played live and didnt have the money to record.

     

    Maybe this underlines some thoughts: Take the band LIM for example. When i saw them live i only knew their 1 live distr. and thought they are no big deal but the event live was packed with fans for them and they played 4-5 songs (of which 3 will be released on their upcoming CD). On the same live MEIDARA played, that have some CDs released and seemed to have fans here, but had 0 fans at the event i saw them (most people even left only for their set). Just because a band isnt famous on here doesnt mean they arent "famous" in the vk scene and vice versa ;) I felt BUK BUK was an example of a band not so known here but that couldve had an impact on the vk scene as the new DAMY or DEZERT as some here called them (even tho most/all of their songs are without screams and more melodic). But when i saw their vocalist without makeup and realized how young he was i feared such disbanding would happen when they finish school or so.

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  19. Posted

    52 minutes ago, Mamo said:

    They certainly didn't release that many songs though lol

    Just because you dont know their songs/cant find them on the internet doesnt mean they dont have them recorded or even released.

  20. Posted

    That is really sad! They were on of the best newcomers in years, their fanbase was "bigger" than most bands i've seen, there were members from famous bands/managers at their sponsored events checking them out, they got somewhat 10-15 amazing songs... Most of the songs even had recorded background music/professional sounding effects. Really thought they will announce some new single or something...

    I guess they were too young, all around 16-17, and start a something new? I felt their singer was more into softer songs judging from his behavior and session bands and their guitarist into heavy stuff, so maybe musical differences? Really confused!

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  21. Posted

    I love Hiro and all he does musically. Would've hoped he goes back to what he did in early Visage, but i guess those times are long over.

    I think the chorus is boring, maybe it will grow on me. But i have to say i get a lot of late NEGA vibes from the look/atmosphere, the PV and partly the sound. Dont know yet if thats good or bad. Really like the "clean" guitar parts. 

    Also bassist has cool presence in the video.

     

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  22. Posted

    15 hours ago, Mamo said:

    Ah @filth_y I was listening to some "Cuartet" and it reminded me of "Saki's" short lived "brutal kei" band "THE MAD SIMPSON" I think you were hyping them back in the day right?

    Yeah, i loved THE MAD SIMPSON, also loved Outrage. Never thought at that point years later i would just often see Saki in Shinjuku or talk to him at Vrzel or Dispina lives :D But the stuff he did with XIII Jap or how it was called was just beyond horrible. Lol at the flyers with photoshopped audiences or "major label band" lies.

     

    @Takadanobabaalien Never knew about that video, thanks for posting. Since BatAAr seems to be shit tier, i didnt know Saki was Swed :P

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  23. Posted

    17 minutes ago, Mamo said:

    Truthfully the real first wave was began in 2003 which is why you can see 2003-2010 in the tags, with bands such as: Awoi, girugamesh, DEATHGAZE, SINCE1889(which stated in 2004), etc. and I agree with the information you mentioned here as well. Everything after 2010 I consider "Second wave" which is when bands began this electronic metalcore/deathcore sound. That's why bands such as DIMLIM, Deviloof, and JILUKA sound different; however, I definitely still think they were drawing off of and inspired by the 2003-2010 wave of "brutal kei" bands. 

     

    And bands of the 90's like Aliene Ma'riage, ∀NTI FEMINISM, and 妃阿甦(THE PIASS) can be considered precursors that inspired this sound.

     

    If we see 2003 as first bands and around 2005 as the real first wave, i think 2007/2008 the second startet maybe triggered after Diru's TMOAB and UROBOROS (i would do give Diru a lot of credit here but ultimately the western bands influencing them on the Family Values Tour 2006). Then i would even go so far and say the likes such as DIMLIM or Deviloof can be considered 3rd or 4th wave even, mainly Deviloof because they didnt come from a vk background? But i feel i start nitpicking.

  24. Posted

    1 hour ago, VkBrutaliaN said:

    very first heavy wave of Vk bands which imo started around 2009 with bands such as Origami, Golbeza etc...

     

    I always thought the first wave of "heavier" vk and that inspired those as Origami, Golbeza, Re:dis etc. was around 2005-2006 with songs by Velvet Nightmare (later DI3SIRAE), Schmelz Cure, It, Since1889, 闇撫, THE RUDIE SATAN PARK, Leviathan and maybe even partly brodiaea or ネガ, followed by Silentline, GREGORY, GremlinS, UnsraW, THE CRIME, ヴェルテクス-Vertex-, etc. etc. etc. and the ones you mentioned plus maybe 20 other bands that disbaneded after 1 live distr. or even without any real CD.

    But i think they dont have much in common and are not related to the likes of DIMLIM, Deviloof, etc. who more have influence from western and real "brutal" music?

     

    Also i didnt feel JILUKA are brutal at all after seing them live with DIMLIM. Very much straight metal (but only "vk" band in 2017 i've seen where i felt the band knows how to really play their instruments) with some screams and kind/friendly/cute atmosphere live. But i dont know their discography at all (went for DIMLIM which were amazing despite the differences CD/live (damn the guitarist and bass cant play the stuff from CD live :\)), so maybe its me. Also FIXER are more like vk with electro effects for me and not brutal (at least not live; dont like them on CD, so maybe didnt listen enough). I think many bands these days have songs or part in songs that can seem brutal but i wouldnt call the band brutal. Some songs by Dir en grey are also brutal, no? :D;)

     

    As mentioned by OP, I also actually think brutal kei was first used more in a way to make fun of certain bands as in writing it br00tal kei like many people hyping Leviathan in 2007 while others were disgusted by the hype. But i do think VkBrutaliaN was in fact the first person i've seen use it seriously some years ago :P

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  25. Posted

    11 hours ago, Kaleidoscope said:

    It's more of the same with better production, 

    Completely disagree, because:

    1 hour ago, Disposable said:

    Conceptually they've changed from the Japanese middle school suburban child murders of the 2003 vk vein into clean-cut jumpdafuckup catalogue boys. 

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    11 hours ago, Kaleidoscope said:

    so basically what most listeners of these guys want.

    Fixed: What listeners of bland, major sound like. Maybe that will be "most" listeners, but not people that were listening to them before their 2nd Best-Of.

    But its fine for them, since major kind like sound = probably more fans (because most people like bland, easy listenable sound) = more money probably. But let's not start the old discussion major vs. indie sound.

    I think they are trying to go real big here (therefore giving up their sound style) or if that aint working, disband (my guess from what they've been talking at lives).

    Sad for me in any case, cause i liked the stuff they did before quite a lot :\

    11 hours ago, Kaleidoscope said:

    Well, it's somewhat difficult to write an entirely new nu metal riff

    Why so many bands are able to do it then? This aint even metal for me, just basic power chord sequence with heavier distortion (doesnt need to be bad for that, just felt like i heard it before and expected more from them). (btw, im just talking about the chorus riff! Dont mind the intro/verse stuff).

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