filth_y

8 minutes ago, togz said:

1. Not to be harsh, but the other "90%" are lurkers who purely use the forum to download things and get the free news. If people became more active, the community would be a lot larger. Just because someone contributes a high percentage of one section of this forum does not make it okay for them to be disrespectful and childish. The fact that people are defending and suggesting one person have an exception to do whatever they want simply because they provide a convenience people are to lazy to do just baffles me. 

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2. You wanna read news and do nothing, get off a forum and go to a news site.

1. Completely agree. Problem is the community itself just cant work i feel (on one side people with no clue of the band (meaning never seeing them live/instore event, discussing with elitism like people due to the distance of availability)..

2. Please give a link i didnt mention. Link me to that news site that posts news first, just minutes after they are announced live and maybe even the only time ever mentioned online like trombe did. Would be happy.

7 hours ago, togz said:

[...]He is not THE community. I'm sure the mods have justified reasons for their choice as a whole with the communities best interest in mind. [...]

Sorry but I feel community as in the people/trolls/mods liked/known around here, not 90% of the actual visitors.

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He posted news not avaible on twitter, vkdb, visunavi, visulog, etc. Infos about live distr. CDs you NEVER could've found out about except you check 2ch or stalk auctions 24/7. I dont know how he knows this by going the lives himself and instantly posting what the vocalist just gave only by voice as information and which was never written anywhere else EXCEPT maybe 2ch. So good luck not only learning japanese, but also that slang used on 2ch to get infos about obscure small bands.

Might also go and piss off YNS and numetal and your dl section is dead aka Nr.1 reason next to news section. Will the handful of people caring/reading the other stuff done by mods here then? (I cant tell anything what mods/admins do in the background noone notices, here i feel/guess they always did an amazing job, but the written contributions, reviews..haha)

Beeing a member since day 1 or 2 of this forum idk 8 years ago(?) im interested where this will go now.

Well, we still got Monochrome Heaven Market, which can be fun sometimes to find that CD you search cheaply.

4 minutes ago, Shir0 said:

LMFAO I don't understand one thing but look at this cute dork, much love Izumi <3

btw someone can explain what's going on there?

Dont quote me but as far as i understand - The show walked around Shibuya, met a guy with injured leg (Izumi were falling over a garbage can on stage), he explained he went to Tokyo after graduating university 8 yrs ago (hes 30 and from Kagawa) and plays in a vk band. They  then walk together to his room in Nakano which is super small/cheap. He says he earns around 40k yen from part time (dont know how much extra from vk), doesnt have a shower/washes in "kitchen"-sink, plays piano since kid, dreams to play in budokan, etc. 

22 hours ago, Shir0 said:

 

Btw the guy in the middle is comedian なかやまきんに君. Fits to Sibile to make a show with him but i start to wonder/understand now the whole band AvelCain was just an inside joke. Like the super bad live performances, horrible/non existing skill and fake promoted image? Just noone got the joke!

My favorite superhero also was on TV yesterday >Check from 4:55<

Poor lovely guy :$

Pm'd

18 hours ago, Alkaloid said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJoOYrLBhs4

Haha at his attempt trying to play the solo in 月-MOON-. But at least hes trying, 業-karma- doesnt even try at all, that voice.. Awful musicians indeed. Still the crowd loves it

I know his well liked status but he has always been the problem in envy for me... every "screamed (?) melody" sounds same for me. Always like da-da-da... da-da-da... All of envys songs are amazing and ruined as soon as he changes from whispering to harsh vocals. Sucks for their/his fans, but it would be amazing to see where the band goes from now.

Hope its just some musical differences motives and nothing "serious" and hes fine tho.

I think there are quite more examples like some songs from Ha;qch (e.g. their "cover"/copy of TBDM's Elder Mysantrophy), 闇撫, etc.. This band is just brutal for the purpose of being brutal and lost the music feeling for that.

Fact is, most of you wouldnt care for this band if they a ) wouldnt look vk b ) didnt come from japan. Their music is generic at best but hey, they try to add something new (meaning taking something old in other genres) to vk. I was suprised noone in vk did this in 2010 when every other wannabe core band had these retarded boring breakdowns.

FINALLY TBS LIVE FOOTAGE HELLS YEAH

 

edit: wtf is up with that venue/audience...was this performed at a studio or something where they asked just the saizen to come or did they play at an event where they were first off like wtf lol. im with stal lol it made them look real stupid considering they have a decent following smfh. their sound is also way too big for that venue i hate everything about this video wtf was up with the cymbals. ushinai was still epic </3

also what was the reason for leaving twitter (according to google translate) that was pretty fuckin vague

The size of the audience is quite big. Bands you people here think are famous often play in front of 0-6 people. Of course always depends the time, day and venue but most of all those bands are just bad live and therefore have no audience.

6 years past and its like nothing happened. 焔 is back. 

 

05.殲魔-ZIZ-

Is this the song that going to flop with that opening riffage? nope nice bit after that. Then some awesome vocals and vocals effects along with fast paced instrumental take you on a ride, slowing down and speeding up at points. Oh sweet solo too

 

The exact opposite is the case. The opening riffage was the peak of the album for me and the only thing remaining in my head after the first listen. I would even say this simple roughly 15 sec were the best in any vk song 2016 so far. Here they had a chance to write a 10/10 song but ended up changing into your "average" awesome Gyaro song.

Sidenote: One of the only vk bands (if not the only one) worth visiting live. I was suprised they seem to be less known here?

As much as i liked them, this had to happen sooner or later. What is a band that cant write their own songs and cant play/sing songs written for them live? For that they were too sucessful. Just hope their management/eve finds some other random guys to replace them with a similiar atmosphere band and a less arrogant/fake despressive frontguy. 

UNVOID sounded exactly like 焔 with just slightly different (weaker) vocals (but same background singing/growling from 憂佑). Melancholic songs but also faster/heavy ones, they even played old 焔 songs live. I think 憂佑 does all the arrangements/songs, so i think this is just 焔 2.0 and i love it. Im glad they didnt follow the trend and change their sound to be like those horrible bad bands dominating the scene these days where everyone cares the look but musically everything sounds the same. 憂佑 is one of these few guitarist really having their own sound in vk/jrock besides the likes of aie (the god and death stars), uta (sukekiyo), 依織 (femme fatale), クマ (リムキャット), サトシ (Lycaon), yuya (Develop One's Faculties), 6 (DI3SIRAE).. otherwise there arent any outstanding/unique guitarists i feel.

Also, I always wondered 憂佑 works at 浦和ナルシス/ZMF, he has such a deep connection to it at least. They seem to be just part time/hobby musicians these days i think. At UNVOIDs live everyone (fangirls) just seems to care for him. It was like him + whatever other bandmember. カユキ seems like his old highschool friend/brother or something, they just fit perfectly. Really looking forward to it.

I was shocked to remember its already 6 years since their disbanding. [enver] brain was also the name of the first session after their disbandment which was said to be a real band but never became, until now 6 years later.

Old exist†trace around Annunciation -The Heretic Elegy- or even before that (their demos might be gothicy?) might work for you too.

I search something like old 蜉蝣 (Kagerou) 2000-2003 like Biological Slicer, 発狂逆立ちオナニスト, 自家製フルコース, 蜉蝣..

My thoughts circle around サリー (Sally) or these days シビレバシル (Sibilebashir) so far. グリーヴァ (Grieva) has some crazy singing too but instrumentally they are too different.

Some recommendations?

As INTO THE GREAT BEYOND is probably my most listened album of 2011/2012 i listened to it again thanks to your list Such a great album. After their first vocalist left CRYSTAL LAKE became totally boring for me, as they lost what made them stand out, his raw voice. Also musically they became more and more mainstream.

01. ギャロ - 東京破廉恥劇場-ヱデン-

02. DIR EN GREY - The Domestic Fucker Family

03. killie - 体脂肪と戦う

04. heaven in her arms - 舌下錠

05. DIR EN GREY - 「欲巣にDREAMBOX」 あるいは成熟の理念と冷たい雨 (Crossover Ver.)

06. DECAYS - Red tide

07. isolate - 航路の先

08. COHOL - 病の元型

09. killie - 脳死が俺の側に

10. AvelCain - 死化粧

Having just songs on my phone that i like makes me like all songs. killie songs top them tho as they've probl. took more thoughts into each of them as the other 7 bands combined with the artistic masterpiece that is 脳死が俺の側に ("Soon, braindead will come to me").

Jadoll - 昨夜、鼓膜ハ鳴リ巳ンダ (Album: アンパトリオティックパーサ)

Jadoll - 最後の想い出 (Unplugged inst. ver) (Album: Final anthology Since 2003~2006)

Re:dis - SE (Album: Rock your spirit)

Wizard - 旅人は木漏れ日 (Album: DIVINE)

To me they sound like a 2016, "little harder" version of many 2006/2007's great bands like ガイズファミリー, heidi., etc. Also a lot of comparsions i would like to make with C"LOW"N (basically (but much inferior) BLESSCODE now). One of the more interesting releases last year (one of many actually), especially together with Hiz's (now CANIVAL) "8インチの脅迫" single. The use the typical formulas of todays vk bands but add enough interesting stuff here and there were other bands just release the same song over and over again (DADAROMA, MEABEL, MEJIBRAY, MORRIGAN, アルルカン or one of these other horrible bands).

Their contribution to "BLACK MARKET GANG I" (Murderr face) remined me a little bit of "FACE TO FACE" (just the intro). Otherwise the song was a letdown, so i hope they werent just a one hit wonder with this mini.

filth_y's ratings for 2016, last updated on [2016.03.18]:

— ★★★★★ — "Candidate for best release"

 

— ★★★★☆ — "Great release"

ギャロ 2016.03.02 DIAVOLO

 

— ★★★☆☆ — "Solid release"

AvelCain 2016.01.27 月-MOON-

DEZERT 2016.01.20 「最高の食卓」 (good album with few let downs; overall weaker compared to their first)

JACK+MW 2016.01.23 frosty CLOUD

MALISEND 2016.02.03 ロストソレイユ (suprisingly refreshing)

MeteoroiD 2016.02.10 BULLETBOX

THE BLACK SWAN 2016.01.05 OUSIA-dispersed- (recycled NEGA with enough good things added)

 

— ★★☆☆☆ — "Nothing special but also nothing outstanding bad, still quite forgetabble"

AvelCain 2016.03.09 蘇-よみがえり-

BORN 2016.02.10 SUICIDAL MARKET～Doze of Hope～

DEVIZE 2016.02.14 Axis

exist†trace 2016.03.16 THIS IS NOW

HOLLOWGRAM 2016.01.20 MALUS (probably awesome if you like this kind of style, i find it forgetabble and boring)

Insanity Injection 2016.02.17 「ADVENT OF SLAUGHTER」

KILLANETH 2016.02.17 セラフ。

KRAD 2016.02.24 M.A.D

MEABEL 2016.03.09 マトリョーシカ-matryoshka-

REIGN 2016.01.20 666

シビレバシル 2016.03.09 月姫

ペンタゴン 2016.01.27 WELCOME TO GHOST HOTEL

 

— ★☆☆☆☆ — "Boring and forgetabble"

DADAROMA 2016.01.13 dadaism♯2 (whole band is waste of talent adding entirely nothing with just recycled riffs heard in dozens of other songs)

MEJIBRAY 2016.03.02 Agitato GRIMOIRE

アルルカン 2016.03.02 PARANOIA

ゴシップ 2016.01.20 東京スキャンダル (feels like i heard EVERY riff in every song in a the GazettE/"typcial-2004-vk-band" song already)

 

Shows you how replacable all this talentless vk band members are with a skilled producer/songwriter/studio-members behind them and why bands like AvelCain cant play/sing the easiest riffs/songs live (still loving them tho). 

Really difficult to pick 9. I wont say they are the best, but these left an permanent impression on me, even after listening each 50+ times over the years. These singles/minis flow perfectly and i dont need to skip any song

In order:

1. 焔 - 環情線 (2. 離レ遠キ重ナラヌ願イ (remix-Ver))

2. Dizon - fate/交差点 (1. fate)

3. 闇撫 - 業 (3. " 夢、死に逝く鬱。")

4. レインマン - 裏窓 (Sample album version)

5. ℃ - ランドルト (1. 電車男)

6. DI3SIRAE - Overindulge (2. Overindulge)

7. 9GOATS BLACK OUT - devils in bedside (4.Den lille Havfrue)

8. Since1889 - ENEMY (1.[†]of screamer/ 2. THE ENEMY)

9. Siva - アスラ (5. Ash)

Edit

I listen both, like both and saw both live.

But deciding between them is no real question since kamome is on such a higher level in skill, live atmosphere, importance for the scene, interaction with fans.

TBS had some nice songs but already sound too repetitive after just 1 year. And whats a good sound on CD if you cant produce it live (this one counts for too many "harder" VK bands anyway)? Still i enjoy them. But if they disband, what they probably will in 0.5-2 years, nothing will be missed. If we're lucky, Jin just continues in another band with the same image. Still love that Shit Noodle thing

Since most people here chose for look, limited listening acceptence for other genres/ VK CD-sound and the image they think they know when seeing pictures (while the real band member behavior is totally different and laughable) they will probably chose TBS. 

Open your mind and visit kamome live if you have the chance, you wont forget the atmosphere/energy. For TBS live, if you dont go you wont miss anything imo. 

Added various CDs and pictures.

In fact, after their good first demo, they made only one song. Now, they're making different versions of this song...

After their awesome demo they had 1 or 2 good new songs but overall, yeah. Always the same but still enjoyable. But what do you expect with only their drummer having the slightest talent. Others are just there for the fame, they dont care their sound IMO. Typical Host-Kei behavior.