kuyashii

I want a jumpscare teaser where there's just a screen with some japanese text and then out of nowhere some really heavy stuff and Kyo screeching at the top of his lungs (think of the "Reiketsu Nariseba" ending) starts playing with the album cover flashing on the screen (come on, it's pretty freaky, it could work well)

they have two albums it'd take like 5 minutes to browse through them dude
 
their "heaviness" remained consistent throughout and it's pretty much like kuyashii said. they had a style and they stuck by it with slight variation. 

looking forward to the new Sopor Aeternus & The Ensemble of Shadows record x

Also gonna call it now. Album will be under 50 minutes. 

Consider DeG and gazette an entry point into heavy vk music for teens. Then consider how most teens nowadays are part of a fandom, which involves loyally protecting your band/series/etc against evil haters. I found out recently that in kpop fandom there are fans who create accounts to roleplay as rival groups and leave hate messages and start fights on different social media of the chosen groups. I'll never understand it, maybe it's too much free time as well as wanting really badly to belong somewhere. 

i think people that actively watch "reacts ..." videos are just mentally slow

The tweet says that because of a mistake in the re-mastering of the best-album, the best album is canceled. He will send an e-mail to those having made reservations.

what year is it

Lime's singing is ridiculously good! He has a kind of voice that reminds me more of those Power Metal singers, like the Galneryus dude (Sho? It's been a while, I don't remember his name) than your stereotypical j-rock crooner, but it's fine to hear someone who isn't deepening his voice like hell and sounding really goofy as a result! The music is hella solid as well.

Yo....
 
that performance of Ningen ROARS. 
 
And hey Kaoru's hand looks like its healed, which is nice to see!

Lime's singing is ridiculously good! He has a kind of voice that reminds me more of those Power Metal singers, like the Galneryus dude (Sho? It's been a while, I don't remember his name) than your stereotypical j-rock crooner, but it's fine to hear someone who isn't deepening his voice like hell and sounding really goofy as a result! The music is hella solid as well.

I agree 100% with the first part of what you said but then you accidentally said something that ended up proving your own argument: people don't compare Sho to Kyo because he sings "clear notes" (which don't really mean anything to be honest), the comparisions stem for the fact that Sho also alternates between different styles of vocals like Kyo does each particular style (low growls, high screams, the "little kid freaking out" squeals, clean vocals, etc.) Sho does is audibly influenced by Kyo. That's definitely not a rip-off like you said, It's just that some people tend to ignore how each artist is influenced by others due to exaggerated adoration and often hail their favorite artists as "the best" or "the most original at what they do" when it's simply not true. It doesn't mean that Kyo is The True OG when it comes to mixing different styles of vocals in a single song since people like Mike Patton, Jonathan Davis or Serj Tankian have been doing that much earlier than Kyo did - but when it comes to J-rock, I'm pretty sure Kyo is the one who popularized that.

Watch this performance of an incredible song and just look how tight everyone sounds
 

What are you doing we’re not allowed to like things here.

Obviously there are a ton of factors here, but I honestly wonder how much music these people listen to outside of DEG and Gazette. There’s also the question of when did they get into this, because I know when I first started out with Gackt, Malice Mizer, and DEG, I thought everything else was inferior. It’s not that the music was better than what I had been listening to, it was just different. It sounded new. 
 
We know the average VK fan can often be blinded by adoration, but goddamn are you really ACTUALLY listening to the music itself when you claim you like every song your favorite band has written?
 
I’ve only been on this forum for a few years, but it’s nice to be able to have real discussions without having to pussyfoot around giving criticism. I don’t know if you guys managed to weed out all the toxic trash over the years, but I appreciate the VK safe space. 

Still think DEG should go analog prog rock and Kyo should primarily stick to his low-to-mid range with the occasional falsetto for color. Like I said, fucking reign that shit in fellas. Try to age gracefully 

I'm very happy reading this. First, Disposable is actually acknowledging that there certainly IS a particular sound for visual kei (And that is a hard thing to realize, considering the fact that no matter how the majority of the fanbase try to simply deny its existence, or else try to "explain" it reducing itself to nonsensical and very vast categories like "Japanese goth" or even "Japanese metal", or ways like that). Second, he also gives a special place to this kind of sound into Dir's arrangement genealogy till today.
Happy.

And take the Japanese Opeth route? I would be seriously happy with them if they brought in a mellotron. 

novel idea - they should hire Mao from the X3t33n to do all the live vocal work, which would mean no derivative bullshit bijuaru-kei from them and no struggle whizzing killing every performance from Deg
 
it's not like anyone from the crowd will tell the difference between two

At some point it's just just a matter of persons trying to obtain acknowledging of others for the things they love. Also, consider that this is a central issue specially within teenage years (I'm  sure 90% of the fanbase we are taking about are teenage and young adults), a period of life where happens a deep reconstruction of oneself's identity. Yet vk is far from being a mainstream scene, so the amount of said acknowledging you can take from being enthusiastic about it is perhaps null. And also you really can't wait from them to understand, for example, the recalling aspects of same bands with, for example, Kuroyume. In my own experience, it took me almost ten years and a deep understanding of musical theory to actually come to realize the specific criteria and values of the scene in terms of music, lyrics and performance, and the system of genealogy relations between certain artists, and so on. But before then... I must say I was a rabid 2009 AN Cafe fan lol

This is an interesting issue as well. I perceive a lot of denial among some fanbases when it comes to the acknowledging  of influences from other bands and when it comes to technical limitations. You have copies of copies of copies being acclaimed "The only OGs of VK" and every mic-cupper inhaling dude becoming the best vocalist in the world. It's pretty freaky.

Disposable nailed it, it’s the YouTube crowd. 
 
Gazette fans lose their shit whenever Gazette is compared to DEG, and the claim it’s because DEG fans are rude to them. Which, honestly, is probably the case. But then Gazette fans take the passive-aggressive approach and spam Gazette songs in comments for DEG videos. It’s just really weird. Especially considering the fans think that both bands are totally not ripping anyone else off. 
 
Also a weird but funny thing. Criticize a Gazette song and you’re met with “if you don’t like it then why comment? Gazette works hard and they don’t deserve the negativity”
 
Criticize a DEG song and you get “fuck you.”