Saishu 1589 Posted June 3, 2019 Also this album seems to be mixed way hotter than the other Sukekiyo material. The loud volume makes the noisy stuff sound even more chaotic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seelentau 884 Posted June 3, 2019 Are you guys kidding me? Kyo can't play any instruments? I back to differ! You guys probably forgot about this masterpiece: 1 EzraEroguro reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EzraEroguro 174 Posted June 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Seelentau said: Are you guys kidding me? Kyo can't play any instruments? I back to differ! You guys probably forgot about this masterpiece: Exactly my point! Thanks Seelentau! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StriderSubzero 53 Posted June 3, 2019 Yeah I really can't get into this album but not much of Sukekiyo's stuff has done much for me in the past either. There's a few songs that are okay but the songwriting just doesn't make any sense to me. It's messy in a Dillinger Escape Plan kind of way but maybe a little more proggy but with less structure? Very odd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuyashii 124 Posted June 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Seelentau said: Are you guys kidding me? Kyo can't play any instruments? I back to differ! You guys probably forgot about this masterpiece: Sorry if I was supposed to take this as a sarcastic message (because I really suck at noticing sarcasm on written media) but from what I can hear the only real instrument there is the guitar riff (and from what I know, Kaoru was also involved with this recording so the guitar playing/sample might be his). Kyo has done a few remixes for DeG so I suppose he might be doing the audio manipulation though? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cheesy_VK_Freak 76 Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) dayum. Why do I dig dorothy so much, this song is actually the bomb! give it a chance, I hated it at the beginning and now I just feel like dancing LETS GO PARTY~~~~~~~~~ Edited June 3, 2019 by cheesy_VK_Freak Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted June 4, 2019 Dorothy and track three remind me of Merveilles era Malice Mizer songs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crossingsinmist 3 Posted June 5, 2019 I'm really digging this actually. I've been into a lot of electronic and oddly structured music lately, so this fits right in. Kind of reminds me of David Bowie's Earthling, with a tad of Outside. I also hear a bit of Bungle. Especially "沙羅螺". That one is basically like "Desert Search For Techno Allah". 1 Jigsaw9 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kyo_Toriko 537 Posted June 5, 2019 Sukekiyo opened their official Instagram! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cheesy_VK_Freak 76 Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) apparently they streamed a song live on their instagram I‘m mad because I don‘t have instagram and did not see it Edited June 5, 2019 by cheesy_VK_Freak Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
platy 3018 Posted June 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, cheesy_VK_Freak said: apparently they streamed a song live on their instagram I‘m mad because I don‘t have instagram and did not see it It's still up to watch if you make an account. It will disappear within the next 24h unless they decide to save under their profile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seelentau 884 Posted June 5, 2019 If only there was some kind of... archive of sorts, on some video upload website... hmm... 2 2 1 suji, Tokage, sleepy coffee and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cheesy_VK_Freak 76 Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) you know, really happy that kyo seems to enjoy himself in the footage, dancing around with these pants, having weird side projects like a ghost -mascot cafe, or what ever. after insulated world lyrics, I was really worried about him. now I‘m only worried about uta, he always looks so sad and stuff. thanks seelentau for putting the effort! Edited June 5, 2019 by cheesy_VK_Freak Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
platy 3018 Posted June 5, 2019 Uta always has a closed expression. I think he specially hates being in the spotlight. I might be wrong but you can tell music is his element, everything else that comes with it is a chore lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted June 5, 2019 I don’t worry too hard about anyone in VK because it’s next to impossible to know if any of the tortured/disturbed/withdrawn auras being put on display aren’t just for performance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seelentau 884 Posted June 5, 2019 I'm about 99% sure I'm going to see that comment on a certain someone's tumblr tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slvts 11 Posted June 6, 2019 On 6/3/2019 at 9:45 PM, kuyashii said: Was there an individual credits chart for Sukekiyo songs? You know, the "this one's Takumi's, this one 's Uta's, etc.". Was Kyo ever credited for any Sukekiyo song? I find really weird that someone who admit he couldn't play any instrument can be credited with songwriting (of course, he writes the melody lines as well as the lyrics, but I'm talking more specifically about instrumentation). I don't know about Sukekiyo, but Kyo said he wrote songs before by humming stuff to the instruments guys with DeG which seems plausible for relatively simple stuff like "TDFF" or "S" but it's rather hard to believe for something like "Dreambox" which is so intrincate and layered. Unless it's a kind of "who gets the first idea gets the final credit", which seems rather odd for me. Maybe he is messing around with samplers and programming stuff? I think it's actually possible for someone without any musical training to come up with a beat or something (you don't even need to be that theory savvy since there's a lot of things you can get by randomizing parameters and stuff on a DAW). Of course he might have learned a few things since stating his inability to play instruments, but considering it was just an improvisation thingy he might just picked the bass to make some noise with it and that's it. I know the point of those instrumental sessions is to create ambience rather than display any flashy musicianship so it kinda makes sense. His sampler messing and theremin playing work in that way too imo Where did you find the info about Dreambox? Would love to see the individual credits on DSS if possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kabukichoatmidnight 269 Posted June 6, 2019 On 6/3/2019 at 7:03 PM, kuyashii said: Sorry if I was supposed to take this as a sarcastic message (because I really suck at noticing sarcasm on written media) but from what I can hear the only real instrument there is the guitar riff (and from what I know, Kaoru was also involved with this recording so the guitar playing/sample might be his). Kyo has done a few remixes for DeG so I suppose he might be doing the audio manipulation though? If that wasn't sarcasm I'd be very surprised. haha. This song basically sums up why Kyo shouldn't write songs, I know some people really love the songs he's written for Dir but they have always stood out as being pretty weak in my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cheesy_VK_Freak 76 Posted June 6, 2019 On 6/5/2019 at 7:47 PM, Saishu said: I don’t worry too hard about anyone in VK because it’s next to impossible to know if any of the tortured/disturbed/withdrawn auras being put on display aren’t just for performance. top 10 anime betrayals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuyashii 124 Posted June 7, 2019 On 6/5/2019 at 11:58 PM, slvts said: Where did you find the info about Dreambox? Would love to see the individual credits on DSS if possible. I ran the japanese wikipedia article on Dum Spiro Spero on google translate ages ago. I know it's really far from reliable. but apparently "原曲" means "composition" or something and that is used quite consistently on the page? There is actually no external references backing up that info, but from what the page says, "Different Sense" is Kaoru's, "Dreambox" is Kyo's, "Shitataru Mourou" and "Akatsuki" are Toshiya's, "Lotus" and "Vanitas" are Die's. Not all compositions have individual credits like that though 1 slvts reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
platy 3018 Posted June 12, 2019 Finally gave this album some listens. It's not my favorite, but it isn't awful. It did take quite a few tries for it to sink in. Tada, Mada, Watashi is great and Kimi wa Mukidashi, pretty sure uta composed it, is incredible. That one and waizatsu are my favourite tracks. Dorothy hasn't clicked with me, but it gives such a Stranger Things vibe. It's a shame that so many songs have technically memorable parts which are super short and only played once and then forgotten, like that solo in waizatsu. 3 yuugure, VESSMIER and karai · ebi reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EzraEroguro 174 Posted June 12, 2019 Hot Take: "Guzo Moratorium" is just a really long version of "HARMS" by 9Goats Black Out. 1 Egnirys cimredopyh reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted June 12, 2019 Infinitum still isn’t really clicking with me. When a song hits it really HITS, but everything else is just sort of there. I listened to Adoratio yesterday and it’s still fantastic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karma’s Hat 3107 Posted June 13, 2019 Not going to lie, I don't listen to Infinitum a lot either. That I respect the concept and the ambition which puts it leagues above the rest of the scene hasn't really translated over to much interest. Adoratio on the other hand I listened to obsessively from when it came out to every once in a while even up to this day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites