Saishu 1589 Posted January 17, 2018 Haha, i remember using part of the Mazohyst conversation as a security question. You made up your own question and answer and I used “ryouri ha ii desu ka?” “Hai.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EvilHippy 142 Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Alroy said: Thanks everyone for details and corrections provided. I wonder how they could let that concert title pass if Japan happens to be so sensitive about any artistic representation or interpretation of abortion-related issues for decades. I could not find any new songs cited on Setlist.fm now that I decided to revisit my claims. Was Utafumi the only new song played after ARCHE or were there other live debuts involved? Normally they could perform a couple or three new songs off their upcoming album like months or even a year beforehand. One new song was played during DSS tour, other during Kisou tour 1 Pretsy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seelentau 884 Posted January 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Saishu said: Haha, i remember using part of the Mazohyst conversation as a security question. You made up your own question and answer and I used “ryouri ha ii desu ka?” “Hai.” "ryouri" means "cooking" xD You basically asked if the cooking is alright 1 nullmoon reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asakusa 95 Posted January 17, 2018 Does anyone knows how these new songs sound? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted January 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Seelentau said: "ryouri" means "cooking" xD You basically asked if the cooking is alright Lol Hey it still works! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maliceandmisery 9 Posted January 18, 2018 Hope they come back to the US soon .-. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crube 585 Posted January 18, 2018 But could they... sustain the truth? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asakusa 95 Posted January 18, 2018 A lot of people who doesn't like metal always asked me -how do you dance to this kind of "music"?- Now I'll just show them the PV for Beautiful Dirt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seelentau 884 Posted January 18, 2018 Does anyone know the source of this photo? It's from a magazine, but I have no clue which one ._. 1 LIDL reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted January 19, 2018 18 hours ago, Asakusa said: A lot of people who doesn't like metal always asked me -how do you dance to this kind of "music"?- Now I'll just show them the PV for Beautiful Dirt Shit like this pisses me off. I also hear “you can’t even sing along to it”, as if being able to dance and sing along are the only things that qualify music as music. 2 emmny and Asakusa reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seelentau 884 Posted January 19, 2018 安東 大 西村 宏則 新倉 薫 原 敏政 寺地 晋也 …だね 1 LIDL reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takadanobabaalien 3607 Posted January 19, 2018 30 minutes ago, Seelentau said: 安東 大 西村 宏則 新倉 薫 原 敏政 寺地 晋也 …だね These have never been confirmed to be their real names, but yes, this is what people (for some reason?) think are their actual names. Readings for people who can't read the post above: Andou Masaru (Die) Nishimura Hironori (Kyo)* Niikura Kaoru (Kaoru) Hara Toshimasa (Toshiya) Terachi Shinya (Shinya) *A lot of western fans thinks Kyo's real name is Tooru, but this has been proved wrong before. Iirc it was Kyo trolling in an interview (a Japanese source states it was in the magazine KERA) and said that his name is Tooru. The fan translation never mentioned it being a joke and then people ended up believing it was real. Or something along those lines. 2 Mamo and LIDL reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seelentau 884 Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) I'm amazed at how widespread those wrong names like Tooru Niimura or Nishimura are, tbh. I wasn't into DEG at the vkei-craze (06~08), but whenever I read posts from that time online... Western bangya are scary, man. I think I probably dislike (or outright hate) 99% of the DEG fanbase. I just read a certain person's tumblr and there are so many things about Kyo's feelings and whatever, some people claiming to be his fiancee and other weird shit. Those names are/were thought to be real on tanuki some years ago. I've yet to hear any update. This is the source for "Nishimura Tooru", btw: Dunno if it's from a KERA magazine, though. Also, the name lacks furigana, so there's multiple possible ways to read it. Funnily, "Niimura" is not one of the readings, no idea where that name comes from. The only actually confirmed names are "Kaoru" and "Shinya", as in, only the first names. I've also read that Kyo sometime confirmed that his last name is "Nishimura", but well, no real source for that. Edited January 19, 2018 by Seelentau 1 1 Mamo and LIDL reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takadanobabaalien 3607 Posted January 19, 2018 15 minutes ago, Seelentau said: Those names are/were thought to be real on tanuki some years ago. I've yet to hear any update. Yes, these names are what the Japanese fanbase consider as their actual names (I'm assuming these originate from tanuki, but I'm definitely not sure). I do however believe that the members (or any official source) have never confirmed them to be real. I've never heard Kaoru and Shinya being confirmed either, but then again I'm not a huge Dir en grey stan to begin with, so if you have any actual proof then go ahead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted January 19, 2018 I prefer thinking that Die just went with a shortened version of Daisuke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seelentau 884 Posted January 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, Takadanobabaalien said: Yes, these names are what the Japanese fanbase consider as their actual names (I'm assuming these originate from tanuki, but I'm definitely not sure). I do however believe that the members (or any official source) have never confirmed them to be real. I've never heard Kaoru and Shinya being confirmed either, but then again I'm not a huge Dir en grey stan to begin with, so if you have any actual proof then go ahead. I asked a tanuki tumblr about it a few years ago and she said that these names are true, according to tanuki. But that's all just rumours, of course.^^ I don't really care about the band members, either. I just know that Kaoru confirms his name in Haiiro no Ginka vol. 0 and his book Dokugen, and Shinya in Haiiro no Ginka vol. 0, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takadanobabaalien 3607 Posted January 19, 2018 @Seelentau Then it's probably correct I suppose. Also if they use their first names as artist names I can see why they also don't see no point in being all secretive about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seelentau 884 Posted January 19, 2018 But where's the picture of the live from? It doesn't look like Fool's Mate or SHOXX to me... ô.o Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mamo 1172 Posted January 19, 2018 42 minutes ago, Seelentau said: Western bangya are scary, man. I think I probably dislike (or outright hate) 99% of the DEG fanbase. I just read a certain person's tumblr and there are so many things about Kyo's feelings and whatever, some people claiming to be his fiancee and other weird shit. European? Because ever since dir en grey became DIR EN GREY I've only seen people in the U.S. associate them with progressive metal or avant-garde metal and many aren't even aware or their visual kei past. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seelentau 884 Posted January 19, 2018 All Western. Don't know where exactly these people live^^ 1 Mamo reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nekkichi 6043 Posted January 19, 2018 I just realized one of my old hard drives is dying and some folders are no longer readable rip do any of you 2002-2005 Diru stans have their photoshoots stacked that you can UL for me? I'm mostly interested in vulgar/the final/saku promo (I don't remember where saku one was from, possibly ohp - it's a bunch of v. small pictures shot in a garage or something, all tinted green.) 1 Mamo reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted January 19, 2018 10 hours ago, Seelentau said: All Western. Don't know where exactly these people live^^ Worst thing about being a DEG fan that’s a grown ass man: being lumped in with the fucking weirdos that squee over everything from new haircuts to some subtle facial tics Kyo makes during an interview. Makes me wonder if any of them are actually even listening to the music. 2 1 rekzer, Seelentau and Mamo reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rekzer 599 Posted January 19, 2018 I remember in the days of Batsu there was one die hard fan (which i won't mention the name but i'm pretty sure any one from batsu rembers) that this person would fight anybody that would question anything this person posted about DEG specially about Kyo. Those were some funny days... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted January 19, 2018 I suppose every fandom has its share of blindly devoted soldiers, but the ones with the complete lack of objectivity amaze me. In fact, I think I just answered my own question about whether or not these people actually listen to the music. I remember when Lotus came out there were people saying how nice it was to hear Kyo sing and the addition of piano was nice new touch to DEG’s style. I’m like, you dumb motherfuckers, Glass Skin wasn’t that long ago! 2 nullmoon and rekzer reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blacktooth 227 Posted January 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Saishu said: Worst thing about being a DEG fan that’s a grown ass man: being lumped in with the fucking weirdos But that's my favorite thing about their shows. I always go in thinking I'm going to hate it but it's somehow made so much better by the fact that I feel hilariously out of place, yet we're all watching the same five Japanese men slowly trudge through their midlife crises on stage. It's strangely cathartic. 2 rekzer and nullmoon reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites