Ozileras10 371 Posted January 2, 2018 8 hours ago, ghost said: I think their best unplugged tracks are between Dozing Green and Hageshisa... They did a great job keeping the original feel and structure of the song while pushing it in a new direction with their current sound at the time. It's like they deconstructed the songs and put them back together with attention to detail while replacing only the parts that needed it. From Lotus and onwards it feels like their re-recordings were more about updating the sound rather than enhancing what was there before. As a result, you get sloppy and unsatisfying products like "Obscure", "Kiri to Mayu", and a majority of songs off The Unraveling. It's like they used a DSS "fast and heavy" template on songs they weren't sure how to re-record and so they all end up sounding the same. Are there really unplugged versions of dozing green and hageshisa??? Coz I'm not aware of it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LIDL 692 Posted January 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, Ozileras10 said: Are there really unplugged versions of dozing green and hageshisa??? Coz I'm not aware of it Probably this one for Dozing Green. Not really unplugged for me tho :shrugs: 1 Ozileras10 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ozileras10 371 Posted January 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, LIDL said: Probably this one for Dozing Green. Not really unplugged for me tho :shrugs: Oh, this is the "before construction" version. I thought there was an unplugged one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seelentau 884 Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) These songs were performed unplugged (but not released officially): ザクロ (performed during TOUR07 THE MARROW OF A BONE PREMIUMLIVE) 悲劇は目蓋を下ろした優しき鬱 (performed during TOUR08 THE ROSE TRIMS AGAIN) 蟲-mushi- (performed during TOUR07 THE MARROW OF A BONE on 2007.12.25 at 新木場STUDIO COAST) 輪郭 (last part heard on disc II of 「a knot」LIMITED -2012.10.10 SHIBUYA-AX- during the "for 'a knot'" section) 304号室、白死の桜 (performed during TOUR07 THE MARROW OF A BONE on 2007.12.25 at 新木場STUDIO COAST) [I think I actually have a rip of this one at home, but I don't think it has leaked anywhere] and probably more :] An unplugged version of 激しさと、この胸の中で絡み付いた灼熱の闇 doesn't exist, from what I can see. But there's a symphonic version, released on disc 3 of DSS@NB. And this is the list of all(?) unplugged songs released as studio recordings: 艶かしき安息、躊躇いに微笑み Conceived Sorrow The Pledge Undecided Agitated Screams of Maggots 我、闇とて・・・ Inconvenient Ideal Red Soil 流転の塔 Unraveling The Final Different Sense 獣慾 Edited January 2, 2018 by Seelentau 2 1 Mamo, LIDL and Ozileras10 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ghost 2687 Posted January 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Ozileras10 said: Are there really unplugged versions of dozing green and hageshisa??? Coz I'm not aware of it Oh man, I meant re-recorded tracks haha. Sorry to induce fake hype. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ozileras10 371 Posted January 2, 2018 25 minutes ago, ghost said: Oh man, I meant re-recorded tracks haha. Sorry to induce fake hype. Lol, it's cool m8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blacktooth 227 Posted January 2, 2018 When did unplugged Rinkaku happen? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
emmny 4139 Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) i don't care much about re-recs bc their live dvds fix the production disasters (basically i get to actually hear toshiya), i.e. the new kickass version of audience killer loop. i also like the live touches they put on their older tracks (toshiya changes up some basslines, clearer guitar sounds/changes in tuning), plus some frills like the segway between undecided --> higeki on the rose trims is to die for. +1 on hearing them rework zakuro, its one of my favs (it made me pick up bass) but the lyrics are kind of cringe now and if they're still down with the prog train it'd make for an awesome new version Edited January 2, 2018 by emmny 2 Saishu and nullmoon reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted January 2, 2018 Best thing about the new version of Karasu is Toshiya threw in some of those wacky bass noises he had been doing live all along. Also, yes, please rework Zakuro. I haven’t been able to listen to it the same way ever since Nega “covered” it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, blacktooth said: When did unplugged Rinkaku happen? It didn’t? Are you reading 獣慾 as “rinkaku”? Because that’s “juuyoku”. oh never mind, I see it now haha Edited January 2, 2018 by Saishu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seelentau 884 Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, blacktooth said: When did unplugged Rinkaku happen? According to my information, it can be heard on Disc 2 of 「a knot」LIMITED -2012.10.10 SHIBUYA-AX-. I will dl it and look for it. Well, it's just the last part of the song, but it can be heard during the "for 'a knot'" section. Edited January 2, 2018 by Seelentau 1 Mamo reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mamo 1172 Posted January 2, 2018 15 minutes ago, Seelentau said: According to my information, it can be heard on Disc 2 of 「a knot」LIMITED -2012.10.10 SHIBUYA-AX-. I will dl it and look for it. Can you share it if you do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seelentau 884 Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) Edit: I should've watched the entire video, lol. This is the acoustic version, I'll upload the unplugged version now, lol. Edited January 2, 2018 by Seelentau 1 Mamo reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blacktooth 227 Posted January 3, 2018 Oh, I remember that now. I thought they did some full acoustic version of it, but I guess not. 2013 Karasu is real cool. I like the ramping up throughout the song, but the beginning sounds too much like Knight Rider. 1 nullmoon reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geist 227 Posted January 3, 2018 I'm one of the few, but for the most part I can't stand a lot of the "unplugged" and "symphonic" versions Dir en grey release. It just sounds like virtual instruments in a DAW and then slapping on Kyo's original vocals at the end. There's some cool stuff here and there; but otherwise, meh. I mean, it's a great way to add "value" to special editions, but that's all it really is to me -- album filler to make you not feel like an asshole for spending $50 on a CD. The same goes for those god awful Symphonic Versions. Listening to the Mode of Dum Spiro Spero release, not only is Kyo singing out of key half the time; but then those virtual instruments come in and I found myself having to parse through things I enjoyed. The Symphonic Version of LOTUS was OK. Definitely listenable. But Decayed Crow Symphonic Ver.? Really? Why? I guess that stuff isn't for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Puriwate 28 Posted January 3, 2018 15 hours ago, Seelentau said: Edit: I should've watched the entire video, lol. This is the acoustic version, I'll upload the unplugged version now, lol. Mp3 download? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted January 3, 2018 I have to agree the symphonic versions are cheesy because it’s all synthesizer bullshit. I want them to record something with a proper orchestra. 1 geist reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seelentau 884 Posted January 3, 2018 26 minutes ago, Puriwate said: Mp3 download? https://scdownloader.net/ 1 Mamo reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nekkichi 6043 Posted January 3, 2018 21 hours ago, emmny said: plus some frills like the segway between undecided --> higeki translate pls Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seelentau 884 Posted January 3, 2018 35 minutes ago, nekkichi said: translate pls He means the spoken intro to 悲劇は目蓋を下ろした優しき鬱. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mamo 1172 Posted January 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Seelentau said: https://scdownloader.net/ doesn't work because you can't get to the link because your page is blank on sc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seelentau 884 Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) https://www.4shared.com/mp3/_IOyFf3Uei/__Symphonic_Ver_.htmlhttps://www.4shared.com/mp3/oi2_97qwei/__Acoustic_Ver_.html The "unplugged" version sounds more symphonic to me, so I decided to rename the file^^ I'll delete these on Friday. Edited January 3, 2018 by Seelentau 1 Mamo reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Furik 832 Posted January 3, 2018 It’s Jan 3 and I am so upset. I was expecting it to be up on iTunes like all their other previous releases but alas it’s not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted January 3, 2018 If it does end up on iTunes it’ll probably be on Friday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seelentau 884 Posted January 4, 2018 59 minutes ago, Furik said: It’s Jan 3 and I am so upset. I was expecting it to be up on iTunes like all their other previous releases but alas it’s not. VOS? lol na, it won't get an iTunes release. Not even half of their releases are on iTunes, tbh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites