SadMoomin 289 Posted May 5, 2017 Since that I haven't seen any topic specifically about this, I thought that would be an interesting discussion. Which singer(s) do you think is overrated ? And which one do you think, don't have enough recognition ? For me, if i'd have to pick a singer who I think is overrated, I'd say Asagi, despite not being bad :x And for underrated, i'd say Yukiya Fujiya (From D≒SIRE, JILS & Kain) ! His voice is so amazing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Komorebi 2193 Posted May 5, 2017 I'd actually say Asagi is underrated, since people seem to prefer Kamijo over him, despite Kamijo's vocal ability not being as outstanding. Depends on who you ask though. If you take the average facebook dwelling VK fan then Ruki, Yoshiatsu and Tsuzuku are vastly overrated. Jui (ex Vidoll) as quite an unique voice and very good vocal ability, even if he doesn't sing as well now, he is still underrated imo 2 raphael and SadMoomin reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ada Suilen 652 Posted May 5, 2017 Underrated: -Asagi (D) -Kazuki (Xaa-xaa) -Ryo (9Goats Black Out, Dalle, Hollowgram, Keel) -Kyouka (Grieva) -Juka -Akane (Para:noir/D.I.D.) Overrated: -Chiaki (Dezert) -Keisuke (Deviloof) -Hal (Fest Vainqueur) -Subaru (Royz) -TenTen 3 SadMoomin, Senedjem and Komorebi reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suji 8317 Posted May 5, 2017 (edited) Underrated: Gara (MERRY) Rei (Marco) Sui (David, ex-Megaromania) Kaya Tetsu (ex-Malice Mizer) Hibiki (The High Grip, ex-Calmando Qual) Saya (Labaiser) Seth/Z (Moi dix Mois, Art Cube) Overrated: Tsuzuku (Mejibray) Kamijo Bidoh (Elysion) Hiro (Cockturnal Buttlust) Jojo (The Gallo) Subaru (Royz) Yuuki (Lycaon) Edited May 12, 2017 by sheepprincessgara 6 anadentone, raphael, Reiko and 3 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robkun 4184 Posted May 6, 2017 Hmm.... interesting. Here's my take. Underrated: Shuuji #1 from Cali Gari Mizuki from e.mu Hirofumi from Eins:Vier Yuji from Child Overrated: Dada from Velvet Eden Hina from Azalea/hurts (sorry old school heads) Riku from Phantasmagoria/chariots And maybe the most controversial of all... Kon from La'Mule Sorry about that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raphael 49 Posted May 6, 2017 (edited) I think Kaya is grossly underrated. I don't care for most of his music due to it not being my taste, but his range is out of this world. There are some songs that he's released that really blow me away--the piano version of Last Snow comes to my mind immediately--but there are a handful of others that showcase his talent and it really does bother me that he's not more popular, or at the very least, more recognised. Overrated, definitely KAMIJO. I don't even want to touch that one. Edited May 6, 2017 by raphael 4 platy, suji, returnal and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zalemu 236 Posted May 6, 2017 (edited) Underrated: Kaya, Loki (ex-Sugar), Seiji/Seth/Z, Fuki (ex-Light Bringer) Overrated: Ruki, Tsuzuku Edited May 6, 2017 by Zalemu 1 suji reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Himeaimichu 1535 Posted May 6, 2017 (edited) Underrated: Riku from Phantasmagoria, even if he isn't the best. Kyouki from Grieva, because people say he tries to sound like Kyo (Even though he sounds nothing like him, and actually uses better technique, tbh..) and I've heard all the accusations of him being autotuned, just because of how his backup vocals sound and because the way the production sounds. However, he's pretty much the same live, records his own backups and gets the same processing treatment that Yo-ka from Diaura gets. And last time I checked, Yo-ka is revered for his vocals. In fact, since Grieva went original now, they deserve much more credit than they used to. Asagi from D. Kaya Chiaki from Dezert. I literally hear no praise for his screams or feminine vocals, which are quite impressive. Mei from Kuroyuri to Kage. I often hear the same thing about his screams, "His screams aren't powerful enough", but that doesn't show the point. The screams aren't meant to be powerful. They're Jonathan Davis type screams. Also, there are his signature whine vocals. While vocalists in the past have experimented with the whine-vocals, such as Ruki from The GazettE, or Tusk Itaya from Zi:Kill, they're a signature part of Mei's vocals. Mahiro from Kiryu. I keep hearing so much criticism on his vocals, especially from the snobbier people of Vkei (*Cough* TeppyBaka *Cough*), but, if you can combine traditional Japanese vocal techniques with western techniques, AND add your own twist to it, you're doing something right. Overrated: Ruki from The Gazette (Well, he actually used to be quite unique, when he sang more aggressively and rolled his Rs. Now he sounds like every other Vkei vocalist. Kamijo from Versailles. Tsuzuku from Mejibray And then there is one I have a weird position on: Kyo from Dir En Grey. I don't think he's necessarily overrated, but I think he is overpraised. Like, even after all the numerous surgeries, and learning correct techniques, he often still goes into incorrect techniques that could quite potentially harm him again in the future, or while not harming, make him sound worse than he really is. Singing, for the most part, he's got down. Regular screams, he's got down. However, the squeals a few of the growls concern me. However, the biggest complaint I have is his mic technique, as starting from Marrow of a Bone, he began cupping the mic, which any sound guy and microphone manufacturer will tell you is really bad mic technique and is the reason why his singing sounds so weird live. I mean, if you look at the 2007 Hide Memorial summit footage, you can hear the mic audio going from good to bad as he cups and uncups it. And don't go "look, little girlie, you don't know anything about death metal, it's just a death metal technique, you have to cup the mic.", because then you'll have to explain the death metal bands where the vocalists play guitar. They exist, and they sound way better than most death metal bands. I'll even go into the science of how a microphone works if I have to. Edited May 6, 2017 by AimiGen7 1 Zalemu reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anadentone 478 Posted May 6, 2017 3 hours ago, sheepprincessgara said: Underrated: Gara (MERRY) Rei (Marco) Sui (David, ex-Megaromania) Kaya Tetsu (Malice Mizer) Hibiki (The High Grip, ex-Calmando Qual) Saya (Labaiser) Seth/Z (Moi dix Mois, Art Cube) Overrated: Tsuzuku (Mejibray) Kamijo Bidoh (Elysion) Hiro (Cockturnal Buttlust) Jojo (The Gallo) tetsu is often forgotten in the vk biz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nekkichi 6043 Posted May 6, 2017 overrated: isshi (kaggra,) that squealing hoe (x-japan) kyo (sukekiyo, dir en grey) criminally underrated: hime (ex-Melvel, now in Yumeleep) 2 suji and appl- reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yurameki24 99 Posted May 6, 2017 underrated: -Asagi (D) Never been listening Overrated: -レイト→ヒラツカタカノブ (Metempsychosis) Vote for my own favorite! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lereku 717 Posted May 6, 2017 Underrated : - Shougo (Anfiel) - Masashi (ex FoLLoW) - Sakurai Yuki (ex Raphael, rice) - Angel-Taka (UCHUSENTAI:NOIZ) - Danchou (Shinkou Shuukyou Gakudan NoGoD) - Keiyuu (Kra) Overrated : - Tsuzuku (Mejibray) - Karma (ex Avelcain) - Yuuki (ex Lycaon, Initial'L) - Kamijo - Subaru (Royz) 2 hiroki and suji reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Traxan 148 Posted May 7, 2017 Fuki from Light Bringer is overrated, IMO. People rave about her performance in Doll$boxx but all I hear is a squeal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaymee 405 Posted May 7, 2017 On 2017/5/6 at 0:32 PM, anadentone said: tetsu is often forgotten in the vk biz I true shame because some of ZIGZO's stuff is pretty good, or at least better than a lot of VK stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaymee 405 Posted May 7, 2017 I feel like Mako from deadman is pretty underrated. Also, I know he gets (or used to get a lot of shit), but my heart has a soft spot for Sakito from Dué le quartz. Back in the day I felt like Asagi from D was super overrated. I can't stand his voice. 4 plastic_rainbow, suji, SadMoomin and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaolan974 6185 Posted May 7, 2017 Overrated : - Tsuzuku (Mejibray) - Karma (ex Avelcain) - Yuuki (ex Lycaon, Initial'L) - Kamijo Underrated : - Asagi (D) - Kaya - Ryo (9GOATS BLACK OUT) - nigu (ex-cocklobin) - Sou (emmurée) 3 Komorebi, plastic_rainbow and suji reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haido 13 Posted May 11, 2017 Overrated: Kyô (Dir en Grey, Sukekiyo) Or maybe he is just too much appreciated everywhere. I've personally heard/seen him singing once and well... Audience was somewhat impressed but I couldn't get anything out from the show. Underrated: ASAGI (D) yo-ka (DIAURA) Nobody talks about them but they both really do have talent for singing! ASAGI's style is more classical but he is super with high vocals. yo-ka is able to sing almost everything from very soft ballads to brutal death growls! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tanishi 598 Posted May 12, 2017 Overrated: - Kyo - Dada - Tsuzuku (Mejibray) - Karma (Avelcain) - Yuuki (Lycaon) - Hiro (Nocturnal Bloodlust) - Kon (La'Mule) - Juri (Deluhi) - Sono (Matenrou Opera) Might get hate for this one. Underrated: - Yukari (Baiser) - Daisuke (Kagerou, the studs) Him and Aie worked so well together. I can't help but feel the god and death stars would sound better with him on vocals. - Jin (Nega, The Black Swan) He's an acquired taste but he's gotten so much better. Though I still liked him with Nega. - Shin (ViViD) This band weren't very good but Shin's vocals while really generic were really great. With a better band he would be amazing. - Nigu (cocklobin) - yo-ka (DIAURA) - Kurosaki Mahiro (Kiryuu) - Aki (Laputa) Underrated band in general. - Jui (Vidoll) - Izumi (Wail) - Teru (Glay) Though most likely he's not underrated in Japan. 2 Zalemu and smilesxchibi reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaymee 405 Posted May 12, 2017 2 hours ago, fieldsgrow said: - Aki (Laputa) Underrated band in general. Preach! 2 Tanishi and Zalemu reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tokage 5930 Posted May 12, 2017 OVERRATED: - Asagi (D) Back in the day he used to be quite overrated, at least. Nowadays it feels like basically no1curr about D at all anymore. - Tsuzuku (Mejibray) - Karma (ex Avelcain) - Yuuki (ex Lycaon, Initial'L) - Kamijo - Jin (ex Nega, The Black Swan) - Dada (Velvet Eden) Like.... ????? i never got what people saw here tbh, he's always sounded like shit to me - Satsuki (ex Rentrer en soi) Another case where I never got the hype - Keisuke (Deviloof) DUDE HARSH VOCALS LMAO UNDERRATED: - Shuuji 1 (ex cali gari) but only during his cali gari days, I haven't been v. impressed with his work after that - Loki (ex Sugar, More) - Mako (ex deadman) - Danchou (NoGod) - Demon Kogure (Seikima-II) - Gara (Merry) - Morrie (Dead End, Creature Creature) Dude doesn't get enough credit for his newfound meme vocals - Ao Sakurai (LAB. THE BASEMENT, cali gari) May not be technically amazing or anything, but I've always thought his voice is interesting - Jun Togawa - Susumu Hirasawa (P-Model etc) Generally underrated among the weeb crowd - Ya-su (ex GRASS, Ya-foo) comfy as fuck 2 jaymee and suji reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridtruth 4 Posted May 14, 2017 Don't really think anyone is really overrated except Gackt and Kyo. Underrated: Demon Kogure Kaya Klaha Seth Masatoshi Ono "Sho" Y'all be sleepin' on some of these fools. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nekkichi 6043 Posted May 14, 2017 you know mashiro is damn underrated when at 20 replies in no one still remembered THE LEGEND 2 suji and Spectralion reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jduv86 224 Posted May 14, 2017 @Ada Suilen - said TenTen was overrated...I curse you in the name of the holy father and son...lol Overrated: Satsuki Jin (seriously nasally. Blow your nose dammit!) Yuuki Tsuzuku (OH DEAR GAWWWWD) Underrated: Asagi (though he still needs to work on those screams) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gekiai 231 Posted May 14, 2017 (edited) Overrated: Tsuzuku Yuuki Kamijo Gackt Kyo Karma Underrated: Jui yo-ka L I'm actually surprised that L hasn't been mentioned here yet! Or maybe I just have strange taste lol. I had to mention 2/3 of the Tohoku brothers since I am on the rocks about Asagi. He definitely has some nice/unique vocals but I feel a good amount of people who have listened to D recognize that. However, no one really cares about D anymore it seems so I had no idea where to place him in these categories. I think my overrated section is quite predictable. Some of the people I mention have awful vocals to me or I can't bear to listen to them for an extended amount of time. Edited May 14, 2017 by gekiai 1 jduv86 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tsuzu_kami 2 Posted May 15, 2017 I think Zin(Jupiter) is overrated, I hate his voice because he doesn't use it as well as he can. He just can't recognize his limits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites