Devilish_Eye 1168 Posted November 25, 2016 The fuck??! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ro plz 1290 Posted November 25, 2016 Fuck this. I'm done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvltic 1482 Posted November 25, 2016 "hiatus" (like an "activity pause") isn't exactly correct, this is the same "self-restraint" thing that's just them not appearing in public for a while. i know you're probably like "bitch what's the difference" but they're different i swear lmao 3 Zeus, NICKT and suji reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrenGun 2261 Posted November 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, cvltic said: "hiatus" (like an "activity pause") isn't exactly correct, this is the same "self-restraint" thing that's just them not appearing in public for a while. i know you're probably like "bitch what's the difference" but they're different i swear lmao seems something serious did happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enyx 903 Posted November 25, 2016 On 11/24/2016 at 10:53 AM, Shir0 said: Loll 2016 VK drama never ends It does, in 2017 2 PsychoΔelica and cvltic reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvltic 1482 Posted November 25, 2016 5 minutes ago, DarkWater said: seems something serious did happen. i think they would have to do it just because a member got arrested, and is presumably still detained, regardless of whether he actually goes to trial or not or is found guilty or not the thing about getting arrested in Japan is they can and will detain you for 23+ days if they want to, and there's almost no bail (even if AK was granted bail it's on average about 1.5 million yen and there's no way they can afford that). they can't very well get a bassist last minute even if they wanted to play without him. and if they did get a bassist, people would judge the shit out of them for showing up in public like it was no big deal -- when they come back it needs to be with a lot of grovelling because Japan. basically they have to wait for him to go to court or be released before they can do anything anyway. 2 suji and anakuro reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suji 8317 Posted November 25, 2016 23 minutes ago, cvltic said: "hiatus" (like an "activity pause") isn't exactly correct, this is the same "self-restraint" thing that's just them not appearing in public for a while. i know you're probably like "bitch what's the difference" but they're different i swear lmao oh thank gawd but still damn........................ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvltic 1482 Posted November 25, 2016 Apparently at the COMMUNE Vol 2 show where lynch. was originally scheduled to attend, MUCC + Ryuutarou played MIRRORS. 😭 Someone else translated Tatsurou's MC: http://kyotakumrau.tumblr.com/post/153641209877/1125 2 NICKT and suji reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
platanity 99 Posted November 25, 2016 5 hours ago, SEKHMET said: This is ridiculous, just cut him out or something D: Oh well D: akn has been their support bassist for some time, and as soon as they announced he'll be permanent member during "mirrors", i was screaming in joy! i loved him, he suits lynch perfectly. they can have their time, shit, they needed their time so they dont copy-paste another new album anymore. i think this will be a good moment to re-assess themselves and comeback with a new image. just dont, never cut him loose. free akinori! 3 cvltic, PsychoΔelica and crossparallel reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jon_jonz 885 Posted November 25, 2016 How's is doing drugs antisocial behavior ? People become good friends by doing drugs together. And this hiatus is bullshit. Just keep playing without him and play the basslines on the speakers or something like that, while looking for a replacement. Same shit. No big deal. 2 PsychoΔelica and Aferni reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted November 25, 2016 He gon' get lynched. 6 Sakurai-san, Aferni, suji and 3 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrenGun 2261 Posted November 26, 2016 2 hours ago, cvltic said: i think they would have to do it just because a member got arrested, and is presumably still detained, regardless of whether he actually goes to trial or not or is found guilty or not the thing about getting arrested in Japan is they can and will detain you for 23+ days if they want to, and there's almost no bail (even if AK was granted bail it's on average about 1.5 million yen and there's no way they can afford that). they can't very well get a bassist last minute even if they wanted to play without him. and if they did get a bassist, people would judge the shit out of them for showing up in public like it was no big deal -- when they come back it needs to be with a lot of grovelling because Japan. basically they have to wait for him to go to court or be released before they can do anything anyway. good bands can play without a member. they will play no matter what. this break is bullshit, they can get a new bassplayer for support easy. so i think more stuff happened. which make everybody busy around the case. hope someone can read tanuki or whatever news to find out the real truth. 1 LIDL reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aetarna 69 Posted November 26, 2016 They are pausing activities to appear apologetic and to take responsibility? It would be in bad taste to continue as if nothing happened, or something. It's a cultural thing, not first band nor last done that. 5 NICKT, PsychoΔelica, anakuro and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvltic 1482 Posted November 26, 2016 12 minutes ago, DarkWater said: good bands can play without a member. they will play no matter what. this break is bullshit, they can get a new bassplayer for support easy. i don't think you understand how pissed their fans would be for just ignoring it. especially since the canceled shows were mostly their fanclub only shows. i would find it very inappropriate and fucking depressing to run the anniversary show without everyone there.... it was way too short notice to get anyone for COMMUNE, CDJ is a huge mainstream event that wants nothing to do with a band who's been on every dumb 2ch tabloid site in the last 24h under headlines like "tattooed bandman gets arrested! drugs? yakuza? sexual assault? hazuki's ex. gf is [prolific gravure model turned prostitute]!" with a bunch of people posting over and over about how he should have been arrested just for being tattooed in the first place. also i know this hard to believe but they may actually like Akinori and be more concerned about trying to help him with his problems. weird but true 6 Duma, suji, crossparallel and 3 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patientZERO 1066 Posted November 26, 2016 All of this is assumption and there's not a whole lot we can do as fans other than continue to support their decisions to do things respectfully. This will hopefully all boil over in time. 1 Ro plz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ro plz 1290 Posted November 26, 2016 (edited) 48 minutes ago, DarkWater said: good bands can play without a member. they will play no matter what. this break is bullshit, they can get a new bassplayer for support easy. so i think more stuff happened. which make everybody busy around the case. hope someone can read tanuki or whatever news to find out the real truth. @platanityand @cvlticexplained perfectly well why they can't play without Akinori. Understandably, it seems as if many forget that Lynch. is NO LONGER an indies band and Akinori is an OFFICIAL member, NOT a support bassist like before in their earlier years. Akinori is visible in a lot of their recent PV's, is in promo pics with the band, and ON top of that during the MC's on their last two major lives, he's actually talked to the crowd alongside Hazuki and co. In the public eye, both fans in Japan and overseas see him in the same light as the other members. These are solid reasons alongside the others (that we do and don't know of) behind the band going on hiatus. Its not an issue of "hey they can just do XYZ" in the meantime. Guys it is NOT that simple. Edited November 26, 2016 by Ro plz 7 crossparallel, patientZERO, suji and 4 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haruto 60 Posted November 26, 2016 You guys who say they can just replace him and go on don't really understand how the Japanese society works. It's "you ride together, you die together". When Meto from Mejibray fell out of that window, it was the other three members crawling on their knees, begging for forgiveness and understanding from both the management and the fans and that was just an 'accident' ( yet self-inflicted, because drunk. So -> shame! ) Think of that one girl (I think from AKB or so?) who got caught sneaking away from a guy's home and shaved off her hair in public and nothing about that is illegal. If lynch. just continued, everyone would consider them highly inappropriate and rude. You have to publicly show remorse and step back. Has nothing to do with being dumb or not finding a bassist that quickly. It's the shaming-inappropriate-behavior mentality of the Japanese. Yepp, us Westerns can't understand. We have fans who get angry if Justin Bieber does NOT perform after being caught with a blunt and I think there were some metal bands where members were convicted with serious crimes like murder and still toured until the last minute. It's really just two different worlds colliding and @cvltic explained it perfectly. In terms of 'public decency' Japan shows no mercy and this is where their audience is located at. I personally have tickets for their lives in March so ... I hope they'll be back on track until then... 8 suji, aetarna, PsychoΔelica and 5 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrenGun 2261 Posted November 26, 2016 ah, just fanclub event and an event for only neat people. well yes logic to cancel them. bit still to go on a break.... they also could say sorry different. there are still japanese bands who would continue. also major bands. bit I guess it really depends on the band. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duma 19 Posted November 26, 2016 (edited) Of course it depends on the band. On their status, professionalism, signed contracts, inteligence of the band members etc. Lynch. is not just a random indie lame band that like 20 people know about them, they can't behave like nothing happened. They have too much to lose and I'm not talking only about money, causing problems to others and losing face is much worse for Japanese. Edited November 26, 2016 by Duma 4 Ro plz, suji, PsychoΔelica and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PsychoΔelica 648 Posted November 26, 2016 Well I hope they don't put him behind bars... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XàYamiJamp 9 Posted November 26, 2016 So at least? what akinori did? Just was high or what? i do not understand. Someone up there posted he was exchaning drugs.. is he a drugs dealer? Or he just was high and be asshole with cops? pls answer me xD btw Vk2016drama is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeus 7997 Posted November 26, 2016 1 minute ago, XàYamiJamp said: So at least? what akinori did? Just was high or what? i do not understand. Someone up there posted he was exchaning drugs.. is he a drugs dealer? Or he just was high and be asshole with cops? pls answer me xD btw Vk2016drama is No one knows for sure. Allow me to give you my interpretation. I don't think he was a drug dealer. If he were dealing drugs, lynch. would have dropped him almost immediately and went on hiatus. Every single visual kei band I've ever witnessed deal with a member possessing a notable amount of drugs resolved it by kicking that member out almost immediately. lynch. did not respond this way, and so far all sources point to drugs, so I think he got caught with a bit of weed while doing something stupid like public urination (due to drunkenness?). This is all conjecture though. 1 XàYamiJamp reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XàYamiJamp 9 Posted November 26, 2016 Just now, Zeus said: No one knows for sure. Allow me to give you my interpretation. I don't think he was a drug dealer. If he were dealing drugs, lynch. would have dropped him almost immediately and went on hiatus. Every single visual kei band I've ever witnessed deal with a member possessing a notable amount of drugs resolved it by kicking that member out almost immediately. lynch. did not respond this way, and so far all sources point to drugs, so I think he got caught with a bit of weed while doing something stupid like public urination (due to drunkenness?). This is all conjecture though. that basically is what we always do in eu and nothing bad happen ( unless u do disorders ) ( maybe not public urination on weed.... maybe on alcohol :V ) but " hey that's japan " so i guess he have to know where the " limit is " . rip akinori's musical carrer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takadanobabaalien 3607 Posted November 26, 2016 I think the translation is a bit confusing for people who don't understand the original message They used the term "hanshakaiteki na koui" (反社会的な行為). I would personally say "conduct that goes against society" or "anti society" instead of anti social. Anti social is easily confused with being an anti-social person. 1 Zeus reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites