Pretsy

@Euthanasia@Zeus@AimiGen7I forgot to touch his post-Kuroyume 2009 reunion days so gomen for forgetting about details you pointed out there guys. Yes, he did cheat and there has been some sort of strong netizen opposition aimed against him afterwards which led to his temporary account changes and other specific promotions - can't remember much about that scandal though. 
 
I and my nihongo comprehension might be even rustier at this point, but didn't Hitoki confess (thru twitter, momentarily that is) he had been given no position nor voice to use against Kiyoharu's late trademark decisions ("Avex-Kiyoharu"-scenario)  - he was in the band too, no? @sads123or maybe another Kiyoharu/Kuroyume fan might know better if that legit statement took place a few days after Kiyoharu's tax failure leaks.
 
 
Not worth emphasizing among other dirty bandomen as @Zeusresponded already, but worth mentioning anyway. God knows if SADS bassist suddenly refusing to meet Kiyoharu and co. and departing was related to Kiyo being an egocentric diva with pickle cards in his pockets...
 

There (thumbnail gives me nightmares tbqh)
 
This and Patrik's brainfarts deserve to be pinned to MH frontpage.
 
#ressurectVK #makeSeremedyYOHIOagain #Swedekeiprevails #VKrenaissance #Bataarwho

Puresound says MASCHERA had a song called ｄｉｍｅｎｓｉｏｎａｌｌｙ　ｔｅｘｔｕｒｅｄ. Did VK predict vaporwave?

Renaissance in the west? Was it ever alive? Does anyone want it to be?

its almost like he should be taking the advice himself

@Euthanasia@Zeus@AimiGen7I forgot to touch his post-Kuroyume 2009 reunion days so gomen for forgetting about details you pointed out there guys. Yes, he did cheat and there has been some sort of strong netizen opposition aimed against him afterwards which led to his temporary account changes and other specific promotions - can't remember much about that scandal though. 
 
I and my nihongo comprehension might be even rustier at this point, but didn't Hitoki confess (thru twitter, momentarily that is) he had been given no position nor voice to use against Kiyoharu's late trademark decisions ("Avex-Kiyoharu"-scenario)  - he was in the band too, no? @sads123or maybe another Kiyoharu/Kuroyume fan might know better if that legit statement took place a few days after Kiyoharu's tax failure leaks.
 
 
Not worth emphasizing among other dirty bandomen as @Zeusresponded already, but worth mentioning anyway. God knows if SADS bassist suddenly refusing to meet Kiyoharu and co. and departing was related to Kiyo being an egocentric diva with pickle cards in his pockets...
 

One could care less about otherwise very carefree, condescending attitudes/lifestyles that most of these bandomen exhibit but let's talk about more significant, large-scale effects here - i.e. things that have impacted songwriting/production heavily AND permanently later on.
 
Kisaki is quite obvious but even so, I think Tommy has the most notorious, and notable backstory here if we follow aforementioned criteria. Come to think of it, there is a clear negative association with him in an instant whenever there are label talks with his "foster children", i.e. Dir members or even 12012 until they decided to cut their ties or idk. We might never know how much of illegal shite has been done (e.g. 2007 case) to keep his poster boys relevant in the eyes of Nipponjins and gaijins.
 
Literally the Don Corleone of visual kei - with Kisaki being "lesser evil" per se.
 
And since it's all the rage for us to sneer at rockstars for doing "the hard stuff": Kiyoharu did hard drugs too yet he has tons of dedicated stans and 0% media judgement. Go figure.

One could care less about otherwise very carefree, condescending attitudes/lifestyles that most of these bandomen exhibit but let's talk about more significant, large-scale effects here - i.e. things that have impacted songwriting/production heavily AND permanently later on.
 
Kisaki is quite obvious but even so, I think Tommy has the most notorious, and notable backstory here if we follow aforementioned criteria. Come to think of it, there is a clear negative association with him in an instant whenever there are label talks with his "foster children", i.e. Dir members or even 12012 until they decided to cut their ties or idk. We might never know how much of illegal shite has been done (e.g. 2007 case) to keep his poster boys relevant in the eyes of Nipponjins and gaijins.
 
Literally the Don Corleone of visual kei - with Kisaki being "lesser evil" per se.
 
And since it's all the rage for us to sneer at rockstars for doing "the hard stuff": Kiyoharu did hard drugs too yet he has tons of dedicated stans and 0% media judgement. Go figure.

I ctrl+F'd this page and it had no Juri (ex-DELUHI)
 
SMH guys. One of the best, least nasal vk-core vocalists right there.

Even though I agree on this...
 
Isn't encouraging them to watch Disney channel over cartoon network (or vice versa), making them listen to specific children songs and dressing them in what YOU think is cute/appropriate for their gender also forcing your own interests on them?
 
As a personal example, I never watched any TV show, just movies that my mother had pre-approved, always dressed girly to fit her vision of how women are supposed to be and listened to fucking Mazapan and Henri Dès until I was THIRTEEN. (I got into rock at 16 because I wasn't allowed to use youtube or download anything until then.)
 
Weren't many of us raised according to our parents views of what we were supposed to like or what they considered was best for us?
 
Granted, people raising kids before being mature themselves are bound to fuck up more along the way, but, in a way, regardless of the age, hasn't everyone tried to encourage people one loves to take an interest in what interests us, at least once?
 
It is an interesting subject you touched there

When I see these people often stating that "yay when I grow up and bear kids, I shall make them listen to my vk muzak", I often think whether that feels too forced and perhaps hindering with regards to unique development of your own children. I am not considering any grandiose family prospects per se but seeing these 2010s families with parents of my own age, what are their attitudes towards raising their kids etc. irks me a bit.
 
Just provide and explain options to your brats, encourage openness etc. Forcing your own interests (exclusively), especially those of VK-like proportions, will merely damage their own unique perception, viewpoints they will abide to in the later course.
 
This is also my main argument against most families kickstarting their infant-bearing days right in their early 20s - when they (more likely) have no fricking idea how to encourage growth, one's mental development, responsibility for fuck's sake. Give it some time lads...
 
Fortunately enough this is MH and not Reddit where these weeaboo moms and dads fail to test their wits over my statements above.

When I see these people often stating that "yay when I grow up and bear kids, I shall make them listen to my vk muzak", I often think whether that feels too forced and perhaps hindering with regards to unique development of your own children. I am not considering any grandiose family prospects per se but seeing these 2010s families with parents of my own age, what are their attitudes towards raising their kids etc. irks me a bit.
 
Just provide and explain options to your brats, encourage openness etc. Forcing your own interests (exclusively), especially those of VK-like proportions, will merely damage their own unique perception, viewpoints they will abide to in the later course.
 
This is also my main argument against most families kickstarting their infant-bearing days right in their early 20s - when they (more likely) have no fricking idea how to encourage growth, one's mental development, responsibility for fuck's sake. Give it some time lads...
 
Fortunately enough this is MH and not Reddit where these weeaboo moms and dads fail to test their wits over my statements above.

When I see these people often stating that "yay when I grow up and bear kids, I shall make them listen to my vk muzak", I often think whether that feels too forced and perhaps hindering with regards to unique development of your own children. I am not considering any grandiose family prospects per se but seeing these 2010s families with parents of my own age, what are their attitudes towards raising their kids etc. irks me a bit.
 
Just provide and explain options to your brats, encourage openness etc. Forcing your own interests (exclusively), especially those of VK-like proportions, will merely damage their own unique perception, viewpoints they will abide to in the later course.
 
This is also my main argument against most families kickstarting their infant-bearing days right in their early 20s - when they (more likely) have no fricking idea how to encourage growth, one's mental development, responsibility for fuck's sake. Give it some time lads...
 
Fortunately enough this is MH and not Reddit where these weeaboo moms and dads fail to test their wits over my statements above.

When I see these people often stating that "yay when I grow up and bear kids, I shall make them listen to my vk muzak", I often think whether that feels too forced and perhaps hindering with regards to unique development of your own children. I am not considering any grandiose family prospects per se but seeing these 2010s families with parents of my own age, what are their attitudes towards raising their kids etc. irks me a bit.
 
Just provide and explain options to your brats, encourage openness etc. Forcing your own interests (exclusively), especially those of VK-like proportions, will merely damage their own unique perception, viewpoints they will abide to in the later course.
 
This is also my main argument against most families kickstarting their infant-bearing days right in their early 20s - when they (more likely) have no fricking idea how to encourage growth, one's mental development, responsibility for fuck's sake. Give it some time lads...
 
Fortunately enough this is MH and not Reddit where these weeaboo moms and dads fail to test their wits over my statements above.

When I see these people often stating that "yay when I grow up and bear kids, I shall make them listen to my vk muzak", I often think whether that feels too forced and perhaps hindering with regards to unique development of your own children. I am not considering any grandiose family prospects per se but seeing these 2010s families with parents of my own age, what are their attitudes towards raising their kids etc. irks me a bit.
 
Just provide and explain options to your brats, encourage openness etc. Forcing your own interests (exclusively), especially those of VK-like proportions, will merely damage their own unique perception, viewpoints they will abide to in the later course.
 
This is also my main argument against most families kickstarting their infant-bearing days right in their early 20s - when they (more likely) have no fricking idea how to encourage growth, one's mental development, responsibility for fuck's sake. Give it some time lads...
 
Fortunately enough this is MH and not Reddit where these weeaboo moms and dads fail to test their wits over my statements above.

Kyoto-ben* He's from Kyoto xD
That's actually where Kyo got his name from

I think it's just his Osaka-ben slipping in for the most part (it's more obvious when he's being interviewed)

15 minute inward scream into Objexxx 

I'm very surprised
Because at this point I just expected the old man in your avatar

combine them all to spell out K A I S A N

I may have already cited these things elsewhere but to make up for possibly farfetched statements about ripoffs and all that shite, I will disclose what I found out about non-Dir album/song lyric references...by Dir en grey of course:
 
 
Reference 1: Flying Lotus - Until the Quiet Comes (2012)
Where: "Revelation of Mankind" (2014), the last line screamed by Kyo
Coincidence or purely legit: Dir stans know that Kaoru "took the wheel" for penning and/or directing the most of ARCHE's songwriting process (credits are somewhere there, in our MH archives). Frankly enough, he also happens to be the most diverse person taste-wise, incl. downright admitting he is not always all about that metal and rock stuff - FlyLo is one of his fav "chill" artists as a case in point. So it is safe to say this is purely legit.
 
Reference 2: Anaal Nathrakh - In the Constellation of the Black Widow (2009) - "More of Fire than Blood"
Where: "Yokusou..." a.k.a DREAMBOX (2011), the slow growly part by Kyo during the 2nd freakout
Coincidence or purely legit: firstly, thanks @Jigsaw9for your tip! I tried quite hard to find and confirm whether Anaal Nathrakh came up with this title by themselves or were they inspired by specific title in literature, movies etc., but I could barely find anything similar to this phrase/titling before Anaal's said album. I have no proof nor interview-related reference which may 100% clarify that either Kaoru, Kyo or someone else  is into grim stuff akin to Anaal. They are somewhat industrial-oriented too, no? The title itself does not sound like something Kyo could just accidentally generate through his Yahoo translator or idk. 50/50, I think.
 
Reference 3: Billy Talent - Billy Talent II (2006) - "Devil in a Midnight Mass"
Where: "Gaika..." (2008), outro/breakdown - the last line screamed by Kyo.
Coincidence or purely legit: So far I've found out that the only event connecting them in the past was the Taste of Chaos tour around the same time when Dir met their midlife crisis in the wake of their 10th anniversary and American roundabout hassling.  Calling 50/50 'coz I just have no other idea... their influence might be plausible though!
 
Edit: the more I google their oddly "coherent" English lines from MOAB/UROBOROS songs, the more metalcore results I get from YT for some reason...