platy

It doesn't matter if they wanna leave vk, tons of previous vk acts have moved on outside the scene and been successful. Look at Miyavi, sure his music is questionable now but his roots were in vk and there's something special about that.  Most people here would've followed dimlim to hell and back, regardless if they carried on in vk or not.
 
The issue is that under RETSU's leadership, dimlim's reputation and image has been turned into a joke. They could've left vk and been signed under any number of other labels that would've managed their look/marketing/social media but, Mr Lets wants to be as true to his craft as possible by managing everything himself, including relations with fans (the very fans who keep this project going, who put food and clothes on their table). I don't think he has any previous experience with this and it shows. Seriously just look at what Issei did with NAZARE in less than a year, dimlim devolved violently when they had every reason to have surpassed NAZARE in popularity/numbers/whatever.
 
If you can't see what's wrong with those interview videos they released on youtube or with the lack of direction/communication that's going on currently, then I'm sorry but I can't spell it out for you more than it's already been done. I don't even know what you are arguing against/for anymore.

It doesn't matter if they wanna leave vk, tons of previous vk acts have moved on outside the scene and been successful. Look at Miyavi, sure his music is questionable now but his roots were in vk and there's something special about that.  Most people here would've followed dimlim to hell and back, regardless if they carried on in vk or not.
 
The issue is that under RETSU's leadership, dimlim's reputation and image has been turned into a joke. They could've left vk and been signed under any number of other labels that would've managed their look/marketing/social media but, Mr Lets wants to be as true to his craft as possible by managing everything himself, including relations with fans (the very fans who keep this project going, who put food and clothes on their table). I don't think he has any previous experience with this and it shows. Seriously just look at what Issei did with NAZARE in less than a year, dimlim devolved violently when they had every reason to have surpassed NAZARE in popularity/numbers/whatever.
 
If you can't see what's wrong with those interview videos they released on youtube or with the lack of direction/communication that's going on currently, then I'm sorry but I can't spell it out for you more than it's already been done. I don't even know what you are arguing against/for anymore.

It doesn't matter if they wanna leave vk, tons of previous vk acts have moved on outside the scene and been successful. Look at Miyavi, sure his music is questionable now but his roots were in vk and there's something special about that.  Most people here would've followed dimlim to hell and back, regardless if they carried on in vk or not.
 
The issue is that under RETSU's leadership, dimlim's reputation and image has been turned into a joke. They could've left vk and been signed under any number of other labels that would've managed their look/marketing/social media but, Mr Lets wants to be as true to his craft as possible by managing everything himself, including relations with fans (the very fans who keep this project going, who put food and clothes on their table). I don't think he has any previous experience with this and it shows. Seriously just look at what Issei did with NAZARE in less than a year, dimlim devolved violently when they had every reason to have surpassed NAZARE in popularity/numbers/whatever.
 
If you can't see what's wrong with those interview videos they released on youtube or with the lack of direction/communication that's going on currently, then I'm sorry but I can't spell it out for you more than it's already been done. I don't even know what you are arguing against/for anymore.

It doesn't matter if they wanna leave vk, tons of previous vk acts have moved on outside the scene and been successful. Look at Miyavi, sure his music is questionable now but his roots were in vk and there's something special about that.  Most people here would've followed dimlim to hell and back, regardless if they carried on in vk or not.
 
The issue is that under RETSU's leadership, dimlim's reputation and image has been turned into a joke. They could've left vk and been signed under any number of other labels that would've managed their look/marketing/social media but, Mr Lets wants to be as true to his craft as possible by managing everything himself, including relations with fans (the very fans who keep this project going, who put food and clothes on their table). I don't think he has any previous experience with this and it shows. Seriously just look at what Issei did with NAZARE in less than a year, dimlim devolved violently when they had every reason to have surpassed NAZARE in popularity/numbers/whatever.
 
If you can't see what's wrong with those interview videos they released on youtube or with the lack of direction/communication that's going on currently, then I'm sorry but I can't spell it out for you more than it's already been done. I don't even know what you are arguing against/for anymore.

I obviously can't speak for everyone but I don't think the change in style is why most people here are criticizing them.  Sure, not everyone was happy about their new sound and lack of makeup, but if they genuinely wanted to do something else than I ain't mad at them for doing it. 
 
The problem for me is that when I think about Dimlim (Retsu aside) the most recent thing I can remember is how bad and confusing the band's marketing was during the release of MISC.  That sticks out to me way more than the actual music on MISC, despite me listening to it several times.  
And this is the most recent thing I remember because they haven't given me anything to think about since MISC, and that was nearly a year ago now.  I understand why they couldn't do their planned shows, but they haven't really done anything else in the meantime.  No real updates or engagements. 
And I honestly don't think I've ever felt this way with any other active band.  Of course bands have released albums I didn't like, but my last thought about them was always "Oof, I wish that sounded better," and not "Oof, I wish they released the album on time and didn't let their guitarist on Instagram and didn't go silent for a year."

People in the thread don't hate dimlim, we want them to succeed because they showed some of the strongest potential we'd seen around in a stale scene. 
 
People are salty because dimlim are shooting themselves in the foot and fucking up what could've been fantastic for fans, the band and vk. 

People in the thread don't hate dimlim, we want them to succeed because they showed some of the strongest potential we'd seen around in a stale scene. 
 
People are salty because dimlim are shooting themselves in the foot and fucking up what could've been fantastic for fans, the band and vk. 

For some reason this completely flew under my radar, but it appears RAKUGAKI has released their 1st digital single under their alterego moniker 羅苦餓鬼 (also read as "Rakugaki") on 2020/10/31, titled 『殺意二満チタ貴女へ…』("Satsui NI miCHITA kijo E..."). As you could guess from the stylization of the title, it's more of a dark kote-kei influenced record compared to their usual eclectic pop-punk rock style.
 
This comes as too late now, but they were also taking pre-orders for a special made-to-order cassette version of the single until 8th November (i.e. the number of copies are limited to the number of preorders). So that slipped us by now, but at least we can listen to the tunes online.
 
TuneCore link
 
Here is the Youtube playlist of the single for those who don't have Spotify and want to have a quick listen:
 
 
I thought this was quite fun! Still sad to see these guys go so soon...

People in the thread don't hate dimlim, we want them to succeed because they showed some of the strongest potential we'd seen around in a stale scene. 
 
People are salty because dimlim are shooting themselves in the foot and fucking up what could've been fantastic for fans, the band and vk. 

People in the thread don't hate dimlim, we want them to succeed because they showed some of the strongest potential we'd seen around in a stale scene. 
 
People are salty because dimlim are shooting themselves in the foot and fucking up what could've been fantastic for fans, the band and vk. 

People in the thread don't hate dimlim, we want them to succeed because they showed some of the strongest potential we'd seen around in a stale scene. 
 
People are salty because dimlim are shooting themselves in the foot and fucking up what could've been fantastic for fans, the band and vk. 

People in the thread don't hate dimlim, we want them to succeed because they showed some of the strongest potential we'd seen around in a stale scene. 
 
People are salty because dimlim are shooting themselves in the foot and fucking up what could've been fantastic for fans, the band and vk. 

People in the thread don't hate dimlim, we want them to succeed because they showed some of the strongest potential we'd seen around in a stale scene. 
 
People are salty because dimlim are shooting themselves in the foot and fucking up what could've been fantastic for fans, the band and vk. 

People in the thread don't hate dimlim, we want them to succeed because they showed some of the strongest potential we'd seen around in a stale scene. 
 
People are salty because dimlim are shooting themselves in the foot and fucking up what could've been fantastic for fans, the band and vk. 

People in the thread don't hate dimlim, we want them to succeed because they showed some of the strongest potential we'd seen around in a stale scene. 
 
People are salty because dimlim are shooting themselves in the foot and fucking up what could've been fantastic for fans, the band and vk. 

People in the thread don't hate dimlim, we want them to succeed because they showed some of the strongest potential we'd seen around in a stale scene. 
 
People are salty because dimlim are shooting themselves in the foot and fucking up what could've been fantastic for fans, the band and vk. 

People in the thread don't hate dimlim, we want them to succeed because they showed some of the strongest potential we'd seen around in a stale scene. 
 
People are salty because dimlim are shooting themselves in the foot and fucking up what could've been fantastic for fans, the band and vk. 

People in the thread don't hate dimlim, we want them to succeed because they showed some of the strongest potential we'd seen around in a stale scene. 
 
People are salty because dimlim are shooting themselves in the foot and fucking up what could've been fantastic for fans, the band and vk. 

People in the thread don't hate dimlim, we want them to succeed because they showed some of the strongest potential we'd seen around in a stale scene. 
 
People are salty because dimlim are shooting themselves in the foot and fucking up what could've been fantastic for fans, the band and vk. 

People in the thread don't hate dimlim, we want them to succeed because they showed some of the strongest potential we'd seen around in a stale scene. 
 
People are salty because dimlim are shooting themselves in the foot and fucking up what could've been fantastic for fans, the band and vk. 

People in the thread don't hate dimlim, we want them to succeed because they showed some of the strongest potential we'd seen around in a stale scene. 
 
People are salty because dimlim are shooting themselves in the foot and fucking up what could've been fantastic for fans, the band and vk. 

People in the thread don't hate dimlim, we want them to succeed because they showed some of the strongest potential we'd seen around in a stale scene. 
 
People are salty because dimlim are shooting themselves in the foot and fucking up what could've been fantastic for fans, the band and vk. 

Sugar Mamas, at least Retsu and Sho have a couple.

dimlim is a great example of biting the hand that feeds you

dimlim is a great example of biting the hand that feeds you