Saishu

I think a lot of the stuff on Adoratio is catchy. 

I’d ignore that account to be honest. This is the first time I’ve seen them not post a “what’s [insert band here]’s heaviest album?”

“Uroboros", the seventh full-length album from Japan's DIR EN GREY, sold around 6,000 copies in the United States in its first week of release to land at position No. 114 on The Billboard 200 chart. The CD debuted at No. 1 on the Top New Artist Albums (Heatseekers) chart, which lists the best-selling albums by new and developing artists, defined as those who have never appeared in the Top 100 of The Billboard 200.”
 
Mofos should have thanked me. 

“Uroboros", the seventh full-length album from Japan's DIR EN GREY, sold around 6,000 copies in the United States in its first week of release to land at position No. 114 on The Billboard 200 chart. The CD debuted at No. 1 on the Top New Artist Albums (Heatseekers) chart, which lists the best-selling albums by new and developing artists, defined as those who have never appeared in the Top 100 of The Billboard 200.”
 
Mofos should have thanked me. 

I don’t remember if Arche leaked, but I know DSS did. 
 
I leaked Uroboros. 

I don’t remember if Arche leaked, but I know DSS did. 
 
I leaked Uroboros. 

I don’t remember anyone sweating for samples of Ninth week’s before release to be honest. 

You can only see tzk's back because they can't show that he's crying

This absolute insanity, and the Satsuki comparison is on point. But at least these two had the foresight to make music that doesn’t require a band so they don’t look like asshats on stage singing with a boom box blasting rock music behind them. 

All I hear is another Kasumi. 

It’s always weird when someone says it’s nice to hear Kyo sing again when at no point has he ever stopped singing. Arche was roughly, what, 90% clean vocals? 
 
And don’t get me wrong, I’m fine with DEG gettin’ chill,  but that preview sounds like a million other ballads. 

It’s always weird when someone says it’s nice to hear Kyo sing again when at no point has he ever stopped singing. Arche was roughly, what, 90% clean vocals? 
 
And don’t get me wrong, I’m fine with DEG gettin’ chill,  but that preview sounds like a million other ballads. 

Also gonna call it now. Album will be under 50 minutes. 

What the FUCK am I looking at?

Kind of sounds like something Luna Sea would have done towards the end of their first run. I assume it’s not just a dime-a-dozen VK ballad in 6/8, though. 
 
It does sound like an album closer. So good on them

Boku wa kuma, kuma, kuma, kuMMMMAAAAAAOOOOOWWWGEGEGEGGEGEGGEGGGJFJFHAKSLSKSLSKSKFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!

OH MAN I LOVE FAIRY TIMES MOMERY!!!

Gimme more of them Hisaki bass tones to jiggle my nuts

What the FUCK am I looking at?

Gush is one of the worst tracks of the year.

Was it scutmandu?

The rivalry only exists in the western fanbase as far as I know. In Japan, The Gazette are firmly viewed as a kouhai band to Dir en grey, and they treat each other as such, despite that Gazette is, as far as I understand it, a bigger commercial success at the moment. Dir en grey was at their peak of popularity in Japan when Gazette started and it only makes sense that they took inspiration, just like Dir did with the peak acts of its era. five years is a long time in the late 90s - early 2000s in Visual Kei.
 
Dir en grey fans in Japan had short-lived rivalries with Pierrot fans, and also with La'Mule fans for a certain period of time, the second of which due to some kind of drama between the hardcore fans regarding attacking each other etc. I don't remember the exact details at the moment. I don't think the band members themselves had any animosity in either case though, although I did get some glances from Kon (La'Mule singer) when I saw him live last year and wore a Dir en grey shirt, heh.
 
When it comes to Gazette I think it's simply the case that both bands became large roughly around the same time in the west with the big "boom" in 2006-2007, they competed for a similar demographic and had a similar style, and since teenagers love to pick sides and create ever smaller groups within already small groups, it was probably easy to force people to identify with either or. I know that as a Dir en grey fan first and foremost, for a long period it was among many of my acquaintances viewed as unacceptable to be anything more than a casual listener of Gazette. Being equally fans of both bands would never happen as you would be fostered into this group mentality from others based on whichever band happened to catch your fancy first.
Thankfully, I haven't seen this in many years among people I associate with, but it could be because I no longer am in touch with the youngest generation of fans, and all of us oldies have matured past that stage.
 
 

Obviously there are a ton of factors here, but I honestly wonder how much music these people listen to outside of DEG and Gazette. There’s also the question of when did they get into this, because I know when I first started out with Gackt, Malice Mizer, and DEG, I thought everything else was inferior. It’s not that the music was better than what I had been listening to, it was just different. It sounded new. 
 
We know the average VK fan can often be blinded by adoration, but goddamn are you really ACTUALLY listening to the music itself when you claim you like every song your favorite band has written?
 
I’ve only been on this forum for a few years, but it’s nice to be able to have real discussions without having to pussyfoot around giving criticism. I don’t know if you guys managed to weed out all the toxic trash over the years, but I appreciate the VK safe space. 

Obviously there are a ton of factors here, but I honestly wonder how much music these people listen to outside of DEG and Gazette. There’s also the question of when did they get into this, because I know when I first started out with Gackt, Malice Mizer, and DEG, I thought everything else was inferior. It’s not that the music was better than what I had been listening to, it was just different. It sounded new. 
 
We know the average VK fan can often be blinded by adoration, but goddamn are you really ACTUALLY listening to the music itself when you claim you like every song your favorite band has written?
 
I’ve only been on this forum for a few years, but it’s nice to be able to have real discussions without having to pussyfoot around giving criticism. I don’t know if you guys managed to weed out all the toxic trash over the years, but I appreciate the VK safe space. 

Obviously there are a ton of factors here, but I honestly wonder how much music these people listen to outside of DEG and Gazette. There’s also the question of when did they get into this, because I know when I first started out with Gackt, Malice Mizer, and DEG, I thought everything else was inferior. It’s not that the music was better than what I had been listening to, it was just different. It sounded new. 
 
We know the average VK fan can often be blinded by adoration, but goddamn are you really ACTUALLY listening to the music itself when you claim you like every song your favorite band has written?
 
I’ve only been on this forum for a few years, but it’s nice to be able to have real discussions without having to pussyfoot around giving criticism. I don’t know if you guys managed to weed out all the toxic trash over the years, but I appreciate the VK safe space.