nekkichi 6043 Posted September 29, 2018 nnnnnnnnnnnnn that entire comment, where's your god now basement dwellers can't wait till oricon starts serving chart positions for this release, it can't sell well, and I'm already hyped for a bunch of unreleased arche rejects to be unsealed, thegazetted up, and released as a single/EP following this mess Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EzraEroguro 174 Posted September 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, nekkichi said: nnnnnnnnnnnnn that entire comment, where's your god now basement dwellers can't wait till oricon starts serving chart positions for this release, it can't sell well, and I'm already hyped for a bunch of unreleased arche rejects to be unsealed, thegazetted up, and released as a single/EP following this mess What do you mean "Can't sell well"? Also yeah, here's hoping for a bunch of other stuff they were sitting on in the studio. Just please, no more Dan Lancaster. This album is so unnecessarily loud in some spots, due to the poor use of the compressor/limiter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted September 29, 2018 Looks like it debuted at #3 and now it’s down to #5? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dannemannen 69 Posted September 29, 2018 Will people hate me for saying that this is the worst DeG album to date? 1 1 1 EzraEroguro, benzaiten._ and kuyashii reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blacktooth 227 Posted September 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, dannemannen said: Will people hate me for saying that this is the worst DeG album to date? You certainly wouldn’t be alone in that opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nowhere Girl 189 Posted September 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, Saishu said: Looks like it debuted at #3 and now it’s down to #5? Albums usually chart high on their first few days due to day 1 buyers (usually pre-existing fanbase). 5 minutes ago, dannemannen said: Will people hate me for saying that this is the worst DeG album to date? No, I don't think that's particularly controversial. I'd give it a 10/10. The tenth of ten albums. My second listen was a bit more positive. Used a different audio setup and boosted the treble. Sounds way better, but still appallingly overcompressed. I can probably get into this in time. It'll be fun live for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LEY 7 Posted September 29, 2018 11 minutes ago, dannemannen said: Will people hate me for saying that this is the worst DeG album to date? I doubt that you're the only one that feels that way. Even with changing listening devices and listening on different occasions, the longevity of this album is concerning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EzraEroguro 174 Posted September 29, 2018 1 minute ago, LEY said: I doubt that you're the only one that feels that way. Even with changing listening devices and listening on different occasions, the longevity of this album is concerning. I dunno man, despite the mixing, this album really shines where their strong points are. I HATED MOAB, and i think people likening it to that are just basing it off of the harsh vocals. This album is pretty great. Still think Ranunculus doesn't fit on the album. 1 LEY reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted September 29, 2018 16 minutes ago, EzraEroguro said: I dunno man, despite the mixing, this album really shines where their strong points are. I HATED MOAB, and i think people likening it to that are just basing it off of the harsh vocals. This album is pretty great. Still think Ranunculus doesn't fit on the album. It doesn’t fit. I mean the end of Zetsuentai rolls nicely into the beginning of Ranunculus, but the song itself is so tonally different from everything else. Which I guess was the intention, but for the previous 12 tracks to all basically be “I WANT TO FUCKING DIE” and then suddenly here’s this Luna Sea shanty with Kyo exclaiming “I AM ALIVE”.... it sticks out more than Vanitas did on DSS. 1 EzraEroguro reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blacktooth 227 Posted September 29, 2018 DSS's theme came across very clearly. "While I breathe, I hope" and how it was a concept album based on the aftermath of the earthquake. I'm not sure what The Insulated World is supposed to mean yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
libertine 125 Posted September 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Nowhere Girl said: Albums usually chart high on their first few days due to day 1 buyers (usually pre-existing fanbase). No, I don't think that's particularly controversial. I'd give it a 10/10. The tenth of ten albums. My second listen was a bit more positive. Used a different audio setup and boosted the treble. Sounds way better, but still appallingly overcompressed. I can probably get into this in time. It'll be fun live for sure. I think they probably count all the pre-orders and "few days before launch from Tower Records" sales as day 1 too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted September 29, 2018 58 minutes ago, blacktooth said: DSS's theme came across very clearly. "While I breathe, I hope" and how it was a concept album based on the aftermath of the earthquake. I'm not sure what The Insulated World is supposed to mean yet. Kyo hates himself. Wants to die. The translated lyrics use very plain language. Very little of it comes across as obscure poetry. He did an interview where he said he didn’t want to reveal the name of the song directed towards his parents, but one look at the lyrics makes it super obvious. He also said he struggles between wanting to either continue as a performer or just disappear entirely. If anything this album seems more personal. Maybe he’s been insulating himself and he’s finally letting everyone in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LEY 7 Posted September 29, 2018 2 hours ago, EzraEroguro said: I dunno man, despite the mixing, this album really shines where their strong points are. I HATED MOAB, and i think people likening it to that are just basing it off of the harsh vocals. This album is pretty great. Still think Ranunculus doesn't fit on the album. Well I'm going to have to figure out how I'm going to get the same effect that I get in the car lol. It just sounds infinitely better on those speakers in comparison to every other device. I dont know how many people would be willing to go through this much trial and error especially new fans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted September 29, 2018 Perfect example of how the sound of this album differs depending on how and what you’re using to listen to it is in Celebrate Empty Howls. On my earbuds, that tambourine/bell sound is hard to hear unless I lower the volume. In my car they’re prominent no matter where the volume is set. I think treble is the key here. Without it you end up getting a weird muddled mid-range mess. 2 Rosner and EzraEroguro reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chocobuzz 752 Posted September 29, 2018 I actually really like this album. I'm not a very big fan of dir en grey overall (out of their previous albums I've only listened to uroboros, arche and withering to death I think, they were ok but not really that outstanding to me) but this one's pretty good. 2 EzraEroguro and YukiUta reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rosner 35 Posted September 29, 2018 Been listening the shit out of the album for the last couples of days, and it just gets better and better. I have no problem with the placement of songs now, and I accept 'Ningen...' and 'Utafumi' now. My only problem would be 'Values of Madness': I still don't like how it is placed after 'Aka'. The rest of it has finally clicked with me. Also got past the production after finding the right EQ and listening device, as Saishu said. I just hope someone rips CD 1 and 2 in good quality, because I can't get enough of 'The Deeper Vileness' remake and it's only on YouTube. Seriously: I'm really happy with what they did to the song. I would love a complete re-recording of 'The Marrow of a Bone'. Going back to 'The Insulated Wolrld'', I honestly think it's a good album with some standout moments (especially the second half), but they could have done better. It still feels rushed and 'simple', though this was something the band was after. Hope we don't have to wait four more years for another album! 4 Kelrya, YukiUta, meat and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geist 227 Posted September 29, 2018 I’m loving the 3rd disc performance of Different Sense. Is it just me or has Toshiya’s screams in that song improved greatly? Also sounds like he’s doing more screaming and less shouting/growling. I have only one complaint for this album besides Values of Madness: I wish Papa Kaoru was louder. Fuck, just give me his isolated guitar track and I’ll go celibate. I think the album length is great because it’s easy to actively listen in one sitting without feeling tired. The idea of having a bunch of songs being no longer than 3 and a half minutes worried me at first; but a lot of these songs greatly benefit from it. I can’t imagine an extra minute of songs like Keibetsu to Hajimari or Devote My Life. 3 VESSMIER, Rosner and LEY reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted September 29, 2018 I really wish the album sounded like the bonus tracks. Like, Jens Bogren’s mixes aren’t perfect, but I can pick out every single detail with no problem. I like how he went for a more natural sounding snare, but it does get a little lost in heavier parts. 1 Rosner reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seelentau 884 Posted September 29, 2018 Some more info on the album's tracks etc.: 5 4 LIDL, LEY, Paraph and 6 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tanishi 598 Posted September 30, 2018 I do think this is their worst album to date but the thing I like about it is that in no way does it sounds like they're simply going through the motions. There's still a lot of inspiration there and some interesting ideas thrown in. It's similar to moab in that regard in that moab sounds like they put 100% effort into it despite simply 'writing a generic metal album'. I think they can still write good music in the future. Production is unredeemable though but the cd sounds better then the iTunes rip (though maybe that's just me). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZudokatoKuroO 13 Posted September 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Seelentau said: Some more info on the album's tracks etc.: . Very Interesting this article... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LIDL 692 Posted September 30, 2018 (edited) I like reading that article. Understand better what the band want to show/convey and its meaning even to littlest thing such as song listing. Make me less worried about Kyo being suicidal. Or the band would parted ways. Edited September 30, 2018 by LIDL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ozileras10 371 Posted September 30, 2018 11 hours ago, Saishu said: it sticks out more than Vanitas did on DSS. Comparing vanitas with Ranunculus is a sin 1 kuyashii reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rosner 35 Posted September 30, 2018 3 hours ago, Saishu said: I really wish the album sounded like the bonus tracks. Like, Jens Bogren’s mixes aren’t perfect, but I can pick out every single detail with no problem. I like how he went for a more natural sounding snare, but it does get a little lost in heavier parts. That's Jens Bogren's trademark snare sample! Would be my only grip with most of his works. Even my favourite of his albums (Paradise Lost's 'Faith Divides Us - Death Unites Us') has a perfect drum sound... Sans the snare! But well, works for him in the context of the mix I guess. But I'm definitely with you: the bonus tracks sound so much better than the album... Also, thank you Seelentaus!!! Really interesting read. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted September 30, 2018 They considered Devote My Life for a single? Are they on fucking crack?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites