Kelrya 145 Posted September 11, 2018 How can 60 seconds be half the song when even the shortened version is almost 4 minutes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LIDL 692 Posted September 11, 2018 12 minutes ago, Seelentau said: Na. The 60 seconds teaser we got earlier was almost half the song. There isn't a lot (if anything) missing from this one. I see. The song sounds like missing the oomph to me is all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seelentau 884 Posted September 11, 2018 14 minutes ago, Kelrya said: How can 60 seconds be half the song when even the shortened version is almost 4 minutes? I never said that it was half the song and I'm also not talking about the seconds. I meant that since the song essentially has two parts, along with intro and outro, we got (almost) half of it (2nd part, 2nd refrain, outro). Compared to the live version I know, the promotional edit's intro is shorter. It's also missing a sentence between 2:20 and 2:25 and the ending is shorter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kiryu999 3336 Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) It's nice but way too short for this kind of song, 5+ minutes would have been better. Idk how much they cutted off from the album ver. but it feels like something is missing, would have loved a beautiful guitar solo and a longer outro for example Edited September 11, 2018 by Kiryu999 1 kuyashii reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuyashii 124 Posted September 11, 2018 Well that was a tad underwhelming. I know the song is shortened for promotional reasons, but it really feels like it's not "flowing" well. It's like a ballad version of "Revelation of Mankind". The individual parts are cool, but they don't lead too well into each other and everything just happens too fast for my sake. My fears with the production turned out to be real, the mix is pretty muddy (but I like how Shinya's drum triggering doesn't sound that obnoxious though and there isn't all the wacky reverb they drenched Arche in) I must say Kyo's vocals are really really good considering he has been sounding like crap for the last years. For people who are going into their concerts, do they show the entire MV or just the edit? And I don't think this version or the one that will come with the album are censored in any way because it's listed as "Promotion Ver." or something and not "Restricted Ver." which is how they label their censored material. They've done stuff far more disturbing/disgusting on clips that didn't had any censoring tbh (the carnivore insects of "Hageshisa", anyone?) I'm disappointed there were no guts flying every direction after the bride exploded though :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
platanity 99 Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, kuyashii said: I'm disappointed there were no guts flying every direction after the bride exploded though .... interesting but i agree with you of the song being "happening fast". i feel that the chorus of this preview is missing a line, it feels like it has jumped from the build up but this kind of editing happened before. like zephyr of sukekiyo. Edited September 11, 2018 by platanity Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seelentau 884 Posted September 11, 2018 1:26 to 1:30 sounds as if there's something missing, to me. The guitar at 1:30 seems cut off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted September 11, 2018 Lately the trend has been to cut the first verse short, which makes the chorus always seem to appear out of nowhere. That they’ve even been edited such short songs doesn’t make any sense. The edit of Utafumi was released ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geist 227 Posted September 11, 2018 16 minutes ago, Saishu said: Lately the trend has been to cut the first verse short, which makes the chorus always seem to appear out of nowhere. This was my suspicion as well. There may be two verses before the first Chorus; but I have no idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted September 11, 2018 52 minutes ago, platanity said: but this kind of editing happened before. like zephyr of sukekiyo. I think you mean Anima? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blacktooth 227 Posted September 11, 2018 I like it. The verses sound fresh for once, so I do hope we'll get a bit more verse on the album version. Chorus still sounds like an anime ED though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ro plz 1290 Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) I swear y'all have the same conversation every single time an official video for an album or Budokan release drops....How is MH not used to these promo edits by now? Edited September 11, 2018 by Ro plz 4 emmny, Jigsaw9, nullmoon and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seelentau 884 Posted September 11, 2018 What baffles me more is that I explained three times that there's only one sentence missing, yet y'all hold your hopes up so high. You'll be disappointed if you think there's more. 1 Ro plz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blacktooth 227 Posted September 11, 2018 Well, you know what they say... denial is more than just a river in Egypt. 2 nullmoon and kuyashii reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seelentau 884 Posted September 11, 2018 I mean the longer outro is kinda cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted September 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, Ro plz said: I swear y'all have the same conversation every single time an official video for an album or Budokan release drops....How is MH not used to these promo edits by now? We are. And every single time the edits cut out shit that make the transitions sound abrupt and unnatural. If that’s really not the case with Ranunculus then fuck Kaoru! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blacktooth 227 Posted September 11, 2018 My dad works for sun-krad and he says the promo edit cut out the dubstep breakdown after the first chorus. 3 Saishu, emmny and Seelentau reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelrya 145 Posted September 11, 2018 21 minutes ago, Seelentau said: What baffles me more is that I explained three times that there's only one sentence missing, yet y'all hold your hopes up so high. You'll be disappointed if you think there's more. They’ve performed multiple versions of this song live with different lengths so who knows what the final version is like. 1 emmny reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheZigzagoon 670 Posted September 11, 2018 I enjoyed it, DEG has always been hit and miss with me but idk this just sounded pretty aight to me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seelentau 884 Posted September 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Kelrya said: They’ve performed multiple versions of this song live with different lengths so who knows what the final version is like. I do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Envelion 14 Posted September 11, 2018 Came here to see people complain about a beautiful new song, never disappointed. 3 platanity, Rosner and Egnirys cimredopyh reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuyashii 124 Posted September 11, 2018 Did the song lenghts get posted anywhere? I remember they appearing on Tower Records' site before the release of Arche (or was it The Unraveling?) already Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suji 8317 Posted September 11, 2018 14 minutes ago, Envelion said: Came here to see people complain about a beautiful new song, never disappointed. when do they not complain? sigh 1 Envelion reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geist 227 Posted September 11, 2018 28 minutes ago, Envelion said: Came here to see people complain about a beautiful new song, never disappointed. If it makes you feel any better, it’s because Dir en grey are held to a higher standard than any other VK band. I would consider that a testament to their quality. 1 raspberrynilla reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jigsaw9 6783 Posted September 11, 2018 This 'almost full' version is a lot more enjoyable than the initial preview made it out to be! Video is still gorgeous, song's okay. It'll probably work better in album context. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
