cvltic 1482 Posted June 24, 2018 (edited) The question of ranking success in the industry in terms of numbers was on my mind so I did some searching and was surprised/glad to see someone actually took the time to make one of these, so I thought I'd share. Oricon's actual indication of copies sold is only available on the weekly ranking for the current week. So some enterprising individual has to archive the VK bands each week and create a final ranking based on that. Hopefully this person is also going to do it for 2018.... Titles left in Japanese because I think the artist is probably more relevant than the CD (?) and it would be time-consuming af when the date is already there so you can look it up. VK Singles in 2017 Spoiler Go straight to the source here: http://nenekurei.hatenablog.jp/entry/2017/02/01/121258 or see below: 21,105 / 2017.04.05 #CDが売れないこんな世の中じゃ / Golden Bomber ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16,510 / 2017.01.17 硝子の瞳 - SID ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8,201 / 2017.04.05 私ハ傀儡、猿轡ノ人形 - Kiryuu 8,087 / 2017.10.25 情ノ華/朧.夜 - Kiryuu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6,987 / 2017.03.22 RAVEN - Royz 6,866 / 2017.03.22 生きづLIFE!! - Kameleo 6,098 / 2017.03.15 この世界は終わりだ。 - Codomo Dragon ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5,355 / 2017.11.08 ANTHEM - Royz 5,123 / 2017.07.12 毒虫 - Codomo Dragon ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4,907 / 2017.01.25 念力 - Plastic Tree 4,723 / 2017.08.02 ウラメシヤ - the Raid. 4,572 / 2017.11.15 DIRTY×DIRTY - Codomo Dragon 4,324 / 2017.12.13 毒廻る - R Shitei 4,045 / 2017.11.07 Re:quiem - DOG inThe Parallel World Orchestra 4,024 / 2017.11.08 BLOOD THIRSTY CREATURE - lynch. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3,995 / 2017.12.06 Timer - vistlip 3,956 / 2017.11.08 It - vistlip 3,916 / 2017.06.21 雨中遊泳 - Plastic Tree 3,889 / 2017.07.26 AGAIN - DaizyStripper 3,889 / 2017.06.28 Dark fairy tale - D 3,846 / 2017.04.12 TOKAGE!!ライジング - LEZARD 3,611 / 2017.02.28 MEMENTO - A9 3,430 / 2017.06.28 Noah/シャングリラ - DIAURA 3,376 / 2017.10.10 蛙-Kawazu- - Kizu 3,287 / 2017.07.12 魅惑のサマーキラーズ - R Shitei 3,020 / 2017.09.06 puzzle - Arlequin ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2,851 / 2017.06.07 価値観の違いは唯一の救いだった - Arlequin 2,665 / 2017.02.22 響心identity - Blu-BiLLioN 2,584 / 2017.09.27 だいっきらい東京/神様ごめんなさい - Zonbi 2,472 / 2017.07.05 AGAKU - SuG 2,461 / 2017.08.02 Re:Born - A9 2,449 / 2017.10.25 「撲殺ヒーロー」(幸福のメロディー) - DEZERT 2,430 / 2017.08.09 新人生 - BugLug 2,427 / 2017.03.01 牙を立て君に幸あれ - GREMLINS 2,385 / 2017.03.01 真っ赤な嘘 - Arlequin 2,385 / 2017.02.01 傘と雨 - MERRY 2,381 / 2017.10.04 イケない妄想×アブない珍獣 - AnCafe 2,381 / 2017.07.12 The Awakening of Revolution - Blu-BiLLioN 2,192 / 2017.08.15 男闘魂戦争 卍燃えよ誤算光殺砲卍 - 0.1g no gosan 2,153 / 2017.03.01 影法師 - Arlequin 2,043 / 2017.08.02 LIQUID VAIN - RAZOR ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1,816 / 2017.04.26 バクチ/魁swallowtail - Doubt 1,770 / 2017.12.06 マグロ解体チェーンソー - ACME 1,737 / 2017.09.20 PENDULUM - A9 1,680 / 2017.07.26 真夏の純情とRevolution - LEZARD 1,663 / 2017.07.12 「ポルノグラフ」- DADAROMA 1,624 / 2017.07.26 FLYAWAY - GREMLINS 1,501 / 2017.12.13 売れたくて - Jin-Machine 1,487 / 2017.02.08 CRAZY TRIBE - Pentagon 1,436 / 2017.03.29 VISION - Initial’L 1,429 / 2017.02.01 ポイズンチョコレート - Purple Stone 1,391 / 2017.01.25 A Little Picture - UNiTE. 1,372 / 2017.11.01 「いいくすりと、わるいくすり」- DADAROMA 1,354 / 2017.11.22 R-P-S - jealkb 1,285 / 2017.11.22 スターゲイザー - JAKIGAN MEISTER 1,210 / 2017.08.02 カニカニカーニバル - Jack Caper 1,203 / 2017.09.27 mademoiselle KAMIJO 1,169 / 2017.04.11 溺愛ヤンデレボーイ - 0.1g no gosan 1,035 / 2017.03.22 CALLING - VAMPS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 896 / 2017.09.13 紅い意図 CLOWD bands whose single sales increased throughout the year: 0.1g no gosan, Arlequin, Royz, R Shitei bands whose single sales decreased throughout the year: DADAROMA, A9, Codomo Dragon, Plastic Tree participation ribbon: CLOWD VK Albums in 2017 Spoiler Go straight to the source: http://nenekurei.hatenablog.jp/entry/2017/01/11/164606 or see below: 8,416 / 2017.03.08 TRACES VOL.2 - the GazettE ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7,484 / 2017.01.25 脈拍 - MUCC ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6,802 / 2017.03.29 BitterSweet - vistlip ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5,141 / 2017.05.31 SINNERS-EP - lynch. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4,042 / 2017.09.27 HETERODOX - Angelo ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3,764 / 2017.04.19 BREAK!! - FEST VAINQUEUR 3,579 / 2017.09.13 殺シノ調べⅡ This is NOT Greatest Hits - MUCC 3,563 / 2017.03.29 BEST OF MUCC Ⅱ - MUCC 3,504 / 2017.03.29 カップリング・ベスト Ⅱ - MUCC 3,462 / 2017.12.13 オーメン - the Raid. 3,394 / 2017.04.05 本アブノーマル協会 - R Shitei 3,218 / 2017.04.12 IDEAL - A9 3,203 / 2017.04.26 HEART - DOG inThe Parallel World Orchestra ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2,888 / 2017.05.10 13 - cali≠gari 2,834 / 2017.03.08 THE BEST ’09-’17 - NOCTURNAL BLOODLUST 2,667 / 2017.11.29 VERSUS - DIAURA 2,510 / 2017.08.09 新痛絶 - MUCC 2,501 / 2017.01.11 HOME - DaizyStripper 2,483 / 2017.04.12 PANTHEON-PART 1- - Matenrou Opera 2,482 / 2017.08.09 新葬ラ謳 - MUCC 2,354 / 2017.11.15 PANTHEON-PART 2- - Matenrou Opera 2,094 / 2017.01.04 ぼくらはみんな死んでいる。 - Zonbi ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1,953 / 2017.12.16 二〇〇七～二〇一七 - Kiryuu 1,921 / 2017.07.19 IDENTITY - jealkb 1,784 / 2017.03.15 全本おもしろ選手権 - Jin-Machine 1,774 / 2017.04.05 絶唱～Best of BugLug～ - BugLug 1,644 / 2017.04.19 dadaism♯3 - DADAROMA 1,614 / 2017.03.15 CONTINUE - Metronome 1,515 / 2017.09.20 Lover’s Melancholy - PENICILLIN 1,509 / 2017.05.03 「SM #2」- MEJIBRAY 1,419 / 2017.06.14 WANDERLUST - Pentagon 1,408 / 2017.05.10 SCREAMY - GOTCHAROCKA band whose album sales decreased throughout the year: MUCC busiest beaver award: MUCC please no more: best of albums who surprised you by pulling good sales, who surprised you by being a flop? who's going to move up after this year and who's going to move down? 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hiroki 5521 Posted June 24, 2018 i didnt realize someone compiled the numbers for the entire year so thanks for posting this! i just wanted to add that these numbers refer to the first week sales and aren't the total copies sold for individual releases 1 cvltic reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrenGun 2261 Posted June 24, 2018 So selling 1000 copies seems to be hard for most bands?! Even hitting 4000 is hard. If you see this list, it's no wonder why CD's are that expensive. In the end they don't sell that much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nick 10212 Posted June 24, 2018 (edited) lol'd so hard at #CDが売れないこんな世の中じゃ being #1. Edited June 24, 2018 by nostalgia 1 1 nekkichi and cvltic reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nekkichi 6043 Posted June 24, 2018 4 hours ago, cvltic said: who surprised you by being a flop? kamijo selling less than initial'L tbh 2 hours ago, BrenGun said: If you see this list, it's no wonder why CD's are that expensive. look.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tokage 5930 Posted June 24, 2018 i'm somehow surprised that cali gari managed to sell nearly 3000 copies of their album actually Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takadanobabaalien 3607 Posted June 24, 2018 Inb4 some crazy diru stan calling this #fakenews 1 2 helcchi, Masato and reminiscing2004 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nekkichi 6043 Posted June 24, 2018 20 minutes ago, Takadanobabaalien said: Inb4 some crazy diru stan calling this #fakenews they didn't release singles in 2017; ningen… is their worst selling single to date tho. 1 Takadanobabaalien reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
platy 3018 Posted June 24, 2018 I'm very surprised that kizu, SuG and even zonbi sold more than DEZERT. Thought dezert had pretty much major status and would've been higher up in the list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvltic 1482 Posted June 24, 2018 3 hours ago, nekkichi said: they didn't release singles in 2017; ningen… is their worst selling single to date tho. and it's currently the top seller for singles in vk of 2018 anyway, oof (kiryuu's 春時雨 gave them a decent run for their money though) 1 hour ago, platy said: I'm very surprised that kizu, SuG and even zonbi sold more than DEZERT. Thought dezert had pretty much major status and would've been higher up in the list. some of these bands perform better in ticket sales/getting bodies into venues than CD sales and vice versa, for sure. for example my impression of vistlip, Royz, and to a lesser degree Kiryu, is that they sell CDs more effectively than tickets, my impression of lynch. and DEZERT is that they sell tickets more effectively than CDs. (you'll notice everyone in the first category abuses type A/type B/etc. releases, and i also personally associate them with a strong instore hustle.) but it's a lot harder to measure ticket/attendance performance. of i've seen some unofficial, not-at-all-comprehensive numbers bounced around for highest venue attendance for active, non-legend status bands that would suggest DEZERT is doing better in that department than some of their peers. Spoiler from tanuki -- many numbers here are estimates with no source and it's EXTREMELY HARD to measure actually attendance even if the venue was successfully rented (see: Versailles flopping at Budokan) SID 8000 (Budokan) DIR 8000 (Budokan) Gazette 7000 (Fuji-Q) MUCC 5000 (Budokan #5) Kiryu ~3500 R Shitei 3000 (Makuhari) BugLug 3000 (Makuhari) lynch. 3000 (Hibiya - Sold out) A9 2000 (Shinkiba, 3 consecutive years) vistlip ~1500 (pit) DIAURA ~1300人 (pit) Royz ~1200 (New year's TDCH) DEZERT ~1200 (Nakano) 1 platy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrenGun 2261 Posted June 24, 2018 sadly acid black cherry isn't in the run anymore. singles/albums got sold 50,000～100,000 easy also many lives got sold out even budokan. but let's not forget bands also sell digital. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvltic 1482 Posted June 24, 2018 abc was on a different level for sure. i was thinking about trying to pull together 2016 and 2015 if i can find the numbers and then they can shine, lmao are vk fans really buying digital tho? it seems more like the domain of pop songs. there's a digital ranking for oricon but i think (just based on my own experience) most vk bands tend to sell hard copies because of the possibility for in-store tie-ins and other promos. for example, gazette is #3 on the weekly album rank but nowhere to be seen on digital album or individual song ranking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masato 365 Posted June 24, 2018 I am surprised Jin-machine made it into both rankings! 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvltic 1482 Posted June 25, 2018 since i was able to find the data for weekly singles going back, i decided to double-check and had to add/adjust some entries from bands that had been excluded from the original list: 21,105 / 2017.04.05 #CDが売れないこんな世の中じゃ / Golden Bomber (adjusted to add sales for 2nd/3rd week of charting) 16,510 / 2017.01.17 硝子の瞳 - SID (added + combined sales for 3 weeks of charting) 10,359 / 2017.11.15 BABEL - BUCK-TICK (added) 4,024 / 2017.11.08 BLOOD THIRSTY CREATURE lynch. (added) 3,376 / 2017.10.10 蛙-Kawazu- - Kizu (adjusted to add sales for 2nd week of charting) 2,385 / 2017.02.01 傘と雨 - MERRY (added) 1,354 / 2017.11.22 R-P-S - jealkb (added) 1,285 / 2017.11.22 スターゲイザー - JAKIGAN MEISTER (added) 1,035 / 2017.03.22 CALLING - VAMPS (added) additionally since i'm trying to make lists for 2016 & earlier i adjusted some numbers by adding the numbers from subsequent charting weeks when applicable, since i think that's how i'm going to do it for the earlier lists as well 1 suji reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triangle 345 Posted June 25, 2018 I'm so whipped for MUCC I even bought a damn pen for 3000 yen so I can understand those numbers🙃 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tanishi 598 Posted June 25, 2018 I've been looking for a website that does this for a while. It's a shame that they only have 2017 and not earlier years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peace Heavy mk II 7200 Posted June 25, 2018 Quote 1,515 / 2017.09.20 Lover’s Melancholy - PENICILLIN I bought a copy, so you can thank me for making this an aesthetically pleasing number 💋 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saishuu 3220 Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Peace Heavy mk II said: I bought all 1,515 copies, so you can thank me for making this an aesthetically pleasing number 💋 1 Peace Heavy mk II reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrenGun 2261 Posted June 25, 2018 (edited) 19 hours ago, cvltic said: abc was on a different level for sure. i was thinking about trying to pull together 2016 and 2015 if i can find the numbers and then they can shine, lmao are vk fans really buying digital tho? it seems more like the domain of pop songs. there's a digital ranking for oricon but i think (just based on my own experience) most vk bands tend to sell hard copies because of the possibility for in-store tie-ins and other promos. for example, gazette is #3 on the weekly album rank but nowhere to be seen on digital album or individual song ranking. Well, lot's of music also get sold digital, itunes, line music and other japanese platforms, there should be stats for that too 100%. I had once a link to check all itunes sales. But since my PC crashed last year.... I lost the link. However maybe I can try to find a person who knows those stuff o.o Don't know how to contact her but.., I try to find out if she is still around online EDIT: Got the answer! @cvltic Spoiler Edited June 25, 2018 by BrenGun 1 cvltic reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chemicalpictures 1888 Posted June 25, 2018 (edited) What surprises me the most is how great the BP trio sell. One can be a fan and such, but there's no denial that Royz and co make some of the most derivative generic stuff around Edited June 25, 2018 by chemicalpictures Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvltic 1482 Posted June 25, 2018 the Kiryu/Royz/Codomo Dragon sales are nuts. i might be totally wrong, but i think their instore fanservice/skills are what leads to these sales? Kiryu and Royz in particular are associated with "extreme eigyou" -- the kind of fanservice where you get "kisses" and hugs/sit in each other's laps for your photos with the members. and even just looking at their schedules, they do like 2-3 instores a week and each requires at minimum a CD purchase for a ticket. the Raid. has also been coming up in sales while their reputation for doing basically anything you ask for photos spreads too, lmao. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Komorebi 2193 Posted June 25, 2018 20 hours ago, cvltic said: gazette is #3 on the weekly album rank but nowhere to be seen on digital album or individual song ranking. Aren't they #1 overseas? All of this is great information. I also believe some of the bands way up there in sales just throw like 5 different types and a ridiculous amount of singles. Numbers are not that surprising considering for every D instore I've gone there's around 100 fans but half of them take at least 5 pictures (so it's already 10 CDs), I even saw a few gyas take 40 copies in one go. There's gotta be gyas like that for Kiryu and Royz, surely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duwang 676 Posted June 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, cvltic said: the Kiryu/Royz/Codomo Dragon sales are nuts. i might be totally wrong, but i think their instore fanservice/skills are what leads to these sales? Kiryu and Royz in particular are associated with "extreme eigyou" -- the kind of fanservice where you get "kisses" and hugs/sit in each other's laps for your photos with the members. and even just looking at their schedules, they do like 2-3 instores a week and each requires at minimum a CD purchase for a ticket. Not just that, but you need to buy THREE copies of a single to attend their the instores and sometimes they make more than three types of a single to get dedicated fans to buy even more. Notice their singles sell significantly more than their albums. For albums you only need to buy one copy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvltic 1482 Posted June 25, 2018 36 minutes ago, Komorebi said: Aren't they #1 overseas? i think oricon is domestic only after looking at the info BrenGun provided -- it makes sense that foreign fans are making good use of digital download options and it's a shame we won't be able to see a worldwide number for vk digital downloads afaik 31 minutes ago, Duwang said: more than three types never forget 10 types for Kyubi. Kiryu's 彩 in 2016 had a massive 21k sales. are they even pulling in a quarter of that in live attendance regularly? (no.) but for my Kiryu shade, they can at least back it up by booking budokan (and supposedly filling it not too badly). 1 Komorebi reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
