Dir en grey

[Furik 832]

39 minutes ago, Seelentau said:

wait a minute

the leaks we got from VOS are the three songs that are on each of the CDs, right?

then what about the videos on the DVD? are those the same songs, just with a video?

afaik, they decided against the one-takes, right? so they're PVs?

As far as I’m aware, the PVs are for the new versions of the songs. 

[Seelentau 884]

meh, there goes ma last hope of a different version of the new tracks...

they should've done one-takes, then we'd maybe have better versions of those songs ._.

[Pretsy 1343]

I wonder whether these rerecordings are legit one-takes with some post-processing instead.

 

There is no other way since they let those off-key falsettos pass on THE IIID EMPIRE...

 

 

 

 

[Saishu 1589]

It doesn’t matter how they were recorded, they let those vocals remain as is and that’s a problem. 

 

Fuck, listening to it again, Kaoru’s guitar sounds off in that part too. This shit was intentional!

Edited January 7, 2018 by Saishu

[blacktooth 227]

SPANK UND SPANK is vaguely reminiscent of Rammstein. 

[geist 227]

Yeah, idk, definitely conflicted on these re-recordings -- and by the fact these "shot in one take" cuts on the DVD apparently won't be "shot in one take" afterall. Since Sustain The Untruth, the band has been making a conscious effort to get things to a point where their material feels more comfortable to perform live, but that's difficult when Kyo insists on doing weird shit like in IIID Empire.

 

All this really does is make me more anxious for new material.

 

 

[Seelentau 884]

I can't imagine why it would feel comfortable to play Utafumi live. I've yet to see a satisfying performance of that song, lol.

[Saishu 1589]

They handle Utafumi live better than a majority of the DSS material. 

[geist 227]

4 hours ago, Saishu said:

They handle Utafumi live better than a majority of the DSS material. 

I'm not sure if that's saying much, because at times some of the DSS material was a disaster live. I remember when they first started touring DSS material and Different Sense was a mess with a botched Kaoru solo to go with it. At least that part seemed to have been ironed out over the course of touring, but yeesh.

Edited January 8, 2018 by geist

[Pretsy 1343]

2 hours ago, geist said:

I'm not sure if that's saying much, because at times some of the DSS material was a disaster live. I remember when they first started touring DSS material and Different Sense was a mess with a botched Kaoru solo to go with it. At least that part seemed to have been ironed out over the course of touring, but yeesh.

They did not write DSS songs with live performances in their minds though, no? If we were to believe in 2010 being their most asocial songwriting phase ever.

Edited January 8, 2018 by Alroy

[Saishu 1589]

That’s exactly the problem. They sat in the studio writing parts and sending them to each other via email and whatnot. I don’t think they actually rehearsed the material as a band until it came time to tour, and by then it was too late. It was just, “oh shit we overdid it and we can’t recreate this sound live.”

 

 

[Asakusa 95]

I have a question

Why does everyone praises The Rose Trims Again? It's their most selling dvd in Japan too... I mean is not bad but there are a lot better concerts imo even kyo's voice tends to go to hell (in a bad way) in this one

 

*I have to say the unplugged ver. of ASoM is godlike in TRTA though

 

(excuse my english)

[blacktooth 227]

That's funny because I've always remembered Rose Trims being praised as one of the best examples of Kyo's live voice. I think it's partially Uroboros nostalgia and partially because that was Kyo sounded relatively best for the era. It has some fantastic standout performances, but it really doesn't stack up against something like Blitz 5Days.

 

Maybe it's all the candles on stage.

[Saishu 1589]

Maybe because the It Withers and Withers DVD was so boring. 

[Saishu 1589]

Wait, looking at the track list... why is Dozing Green lumped in with the MOAB tracks?

[blacktooth 227]

Dozing Green's release was closer to MOAB than Uroboros. Sitar aside, I've always felt it was more a maturation of the MOAB sound than what was to become the Uroboros sound.

[Asakusa 95]

I remember the it withers and withers dvd to be the one with the worst singing by kyo

[suji 8317]

where's that dvd that has footage of kyo and gara together? uuuuuuuugh........

[Asakusa 95]

11 minutes ago, suji said:

where's that dvd that has footage of kyo and gara together? uuuuuuuugh........

omg what? I need it

[suji 8317]

11 minutes ago, Asakusa said:

omg what? I need it

I remember seeing the gifset on tumblr...I think it was from one of those "mode of" DVDs, but the link is dead :/

[Pretsy 1343]

Before Construction version was recorded around the time they've almost finished with MOAB too, right?

[evenor 1655]

Now that Vestige of Scratches was released/leaked, I am gonna need deg to hurry up and release TOUR16-17 FROM DEPRESSION TO ________ [mode of MACABRE] dvd

[Saishu 1589]

29 minutes ago, blacktooth said:

Dozing Green's release was closer to MOAB than Uroboros. Sitar aside, I've always felt it was more a maturation of the MOAB sound than what was to become the Uroboros sound.

I guess that makes sense, but it wasn’t that far away from Uroboros either. 

[Saishu 1589]

34 minutes ago, Asakusa said:

I remember the it withers and withers dvd to be the one with the worst singing by kyo

It is. This was when he had the least control and would run out of breath and couldn’t sing a complete line of lyrics. 

[Asakusa 95]

47 minutes ago, Saishu said:

It is. This was when he had the least control and would run out of breath and couldn’t sing a complete line of lyrics. 

Uggh yeah, the clever sleazoid single comes to my mind. The live songs on it are just plain awful (kyo's "singing" at least)

Edited January 9, 2018 by Asakusa