Jigsaw9 6783 Posted November 30, 2019 Only the material from 2003 to early 2006 is real, the rest is just different shades of embarrassing imo. 1 The Reverend reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sleepy coffee 1476 Posted November 30, 2019 6 hours ago, YuyoDrift said: Ouch, I actually enjoyed some of DIAMOND lol. dont feel bad, i hard fuck with their self titled LMAO 1 1 raspberrynilla and nullmoon reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted December 1, 2019 I forgot Cunning Killer was a thing so I just listened to it. When the music drops so Wataru can scream “self-awareness release of the go” like a 5 year old stomping his feet at his mom, I lost my shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nekkichi 6043 Posted December 1, 2019 On 11/30/2019 at 11:15 AM, YuyoDrift said: Ouch, I actually enjoyed some of DIAMOND lol. they did their little nobudget glay copycat act relatively well for a while, the embarrassment of a former UCP band recording their major album streak is unreal tho. 1 YuyoDrift reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raspberrynilla 85 Posted December 2, 2019 On 11/30/2019 at 7:55 AM, sleepy coffee said: dont feel bad, i hard fuck with their self titled LMAO Finally someone else! It's probably my favorite album by theirs haha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackSwan_86 84 Posted December 2, 2019 4 hours ago, raspberrynilla said: Finally someone else! It's probably my favorite album by theirs haha It’s also my favourite album by them 🙂 i think they never did better like on the self-titled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ro plz 1290 Posted December 2, 2019 On 11/28/2019 at 10:04 PM, Elazmus said: The return album and Deicida of Silence were equally DeG-derivative, but I still think Deicida was notably better. Aged or not, that album sounds like a really long playlist of demos lol. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. Those tracks minus the first two (?) are 2 minutes and some change lmao. Seeing as though the style switch was really sudden, its not hard to believe that these tracks have been chillin in the vault for awhile. Explains why it sounded SO dated at the time. 1 Elazmus reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted December 2, 2019 I can’t listen to songs like Baal-zebul, Abuse, and Madman and take that self-titled seriously. I’d like some sort of chronicle that explains the sudden style shifts they went thru in such a short span of time. Yuusuke probably decided to quit when he saw where things were headed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ro plz 1290 Posted December 2, 2019 Part of me thinks the style change and Yuusuke leaving are interjected. IF I had to take a guess then id say he probably felt a way about going back to "dark" music after the Wataru scandal, which IIRC was the reason why they went pop.... But this is all speculation so idk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted December 2, 2019 Diamond and the Wataru choke out we’re within three months of each other. The shift back to darker music started with Seven, but I can only assume going full on GRAWR was just too much and Yuusuke bounced Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bear 1817 Posted December 2, 2019 On 11/30/2019 at 9:03 AM, Jigsaw9 said: Only the material from 2003 to early 2006 is real, the rest is just different shades of embarrassing imo. So true! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zombieparadise 487 Posted December 2, 2019 PLAY DOLLs is my definition of a perfect album. Washed out, hazy sound, full of melancholy, and raw as hell. Love listening to it every winter on those cold, bitter nights. 1 Jigsaw9 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zombieparadise 487 Posted December 2, 2019 On 11/25/2019 at 12:24 PM, Ro plz said: Not a lot of bands have a holy trinity. These three are 12012's I would say Bell Salem, 深~deep~ Knight mare were their trinity, but the ones at the tail end weren't too bad either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted December 2, 2019 Shudder is probably my favorite 12012 song. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zombieparadise 487 Posted December 3, 2019 18 hours ago, Saishu said: Shudder is probably my favorite 12012 song. Man, Shudder gave birth to VK for me... Before that, I was just a nasty, J-pop loving anime fan. It's not even an understatement that that song single-handedly changed the trajectory of my life hahaha. 3 nullmoon, The Reverend and Saishu reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nullmoon 784 Posted December 3, 2019 18 hours ago, zombieparadise said: PLAY DOLLs is my definition of a perfect album. Washed out, hazy sound, full of melancholy, and raw as hell. Love listening to it every winter on those cold, bitter nights. I love pretty much everything by the band but I just can't get into this album Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sleepy coffee 1476 Posted December 3, 2019 Despite really liking 12012 last 4 or 5 releases, I will concede that shudder was not only peak 12012 but peak vk 2 zombieparadise and raspberrynilla reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zombieparadise 487 Posted December 3, 2019 3 hours ago, nullmoon said: I love pretty much everything by the band but I just can't get into this album Honestly, it took me like 2-3 years of listening to it on and off before I really began to appreciate the nuances between the songs. Before that, I thought all the songs sounded really bland and same-y. 1 nullmoon reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chemicalpictures 1888 Posted December 18, 2019 As much as I love early 12012, Wataru was clearly the weak link. People can say what they want of major 12012, but the dude went through some MAJOR improvement there. In any case, SEVEN is my favorite release of theirs, but I'd argue that they went out with their most concise work ever. THE SWAN and XII are the sum of all their experiences, it's dark, it has pop nuances, Wataru delivers, the composition is top notch... I would go far and say they are the best way to introduce someone nowadays. 2 zaa_zaa and sleepy coffee reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sleepy coffee 1476 Posted December 18, 2019 1 minute ago, chemicalpictures said: Wataru delivers Also turns out the dude straight up was also the composer for the red which makes him even more impressive 1 zaa_zaa reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tokage 5930 Posted December 18, 2019 I remember reading at some point that the lyrics for all of their songs were supposed to form some sort of story, was that just something western fans headcanoned up or did they just drop that whole thing somewhere down the road? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) Wasn’t the band’s early concept something like “human madness”? That may have been their initial direction Edited December 19, 2019 by Saishu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nekkichi 6043 Posted December 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Tokage said: I remember reading at some point that the lyrics for all of their songs were supposed to form some sort of story, was that just something western fans headcanoned up or did they just drop that whole thing somewhere down the road? that was the concept for play dolls, but not for other releases, as far as i can remember now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ro plz 1290 Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) I can't fucking believe this lmaoooo I HATE IT HERE! Edited January 9, 2020 by Ro plz 1 1 4 Seimeisen, zaa_zaa, suji and 3 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suji 8317 Posted March 28, 2020 So Wataru and Hirotaka (from R-shitei) are in a gaming group called Shibuya GGAMING, which also includes Tik-tokers (yes that's a thing), illustrators, and designers. According to their plans for the future, they'll have distributions, events, music production, and live performances. yawn http://www.visunavi.com/news/359043/ 1 amemiya_takumi reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites