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Miss kagerou... Miss daisuke...

oh this is good
deg and unsraw kind of cover my nu-metal vk playlist, but those guys had a lot of replay time back in my winamp (rip)
 
 
 
 
 
remember when everyone was so ~ vocally offended~ by this riff reused by one single wonders
 
 

oh, this is a thread i'll be paying close attention to. i love this stuff yet my library is deprived of it,,, therefore i can only offer this:
 
 

Ahh hell yeah man. Lots of good stuff churned out during this period. One of my favorite tracks would be this one right here.
 


I might have listened to more of their discography, but I seriously don't remember. I do remember listening to this one track very heavily though. I remember when I first heard 'em, I called them the VK SOAD loll.

You posted stuff I only cut out due to brevity. D'espairsray was my first vk band and coll:set was a tremendously important album for me for the longest time. They really set the ball rolling for me and Hizumi was my idol from when I was 13 up until those three singles after Mirrors when I disowned them for having betrayed the cause. Forgave them years later and today I'm even a little fond of stuff like Horizon. D'espairsray also deserves mention because they were one of the first of their kind around, although the very earliest releases weren't as nu metally as some of what other bands put out.
 
 I was once informed by my mother that she didn't enjoy the screaming when I played Reddish from the CD player whilst riding the family car. Definitely a watershed moment for me as a person and as a loser.
 
Love that Black:list song. It's a shame they didn't get to put out more stuff. They had a show here back in the day too, but of course I was a dullard and missed it.
 
 
Most definitely. They clearly appeared at one point to identify themselves as such too, not to mention that they ripped off a bunch of the big bands like the forementioned D'espairsray.  
 

Awesome thread! This kind of stuff was what made me love VK and I still enjoy it a great deal. Never really listened to Revier, I'm surprised how good their vocalist sounds, is he in any other projects currently?
You already posted quite a few of my old favourites (girugamesh, UnsraW and MUCC), but here are some of my most beloved nu metal riffs.
 
My all time favourite is D'espa in their [Coll:Set] and BORN era, it's the stuff that got me into nu metal VK in the first place - Grudge, BORN and Quarter Void are among my favourites too, but In Vain was just my daily soundtrack to being an edgy teenager (and still is secretly).
 
 
I also love the riff in Bouzenjishitsu and Black:List's Throw Hope away, awesome vocals for both of them as well.
 
 
Too lazy to add any others right now, but there are countless of them I loved, maybe I will add some later. I guess DEZERT somewhat have the feeling of nu metal VK, don't they? Might be the reason why I dig them so much right now

Awesome thread! This kind of stuff was what made me love VK and I still enjoy it a great deal. Never really listened to Revier, I'm surprised how good their vocalist sounds, is he in any other projects currently?
You already posted quite a few of my old favourites (girugamesh, UnsraW and MUCC), but here are some of my most beloved nu metal riffs.
 
My all time favourite is D'espa in their [Coll:Set] and BORN era, it's the stuff that got me into nu metal VK in the first place - Grudge, BORN and Quarter Void are among my favourites too, but In Vain was just my daily soundtrack to being an edgy teenager (and still is secretly).
 
 
I also love the riff in Bouzenjishitsu and Black:List's Throw Hope away, awesome vocals for both of them as well.
 
 
Too lazy to add any others right now, but there are countless of them I loved, maybe I will add some later. I guess DEZERT somewhat have the feeling of nu metal VK, don't they? Might be the reason why I dig them so much right now

Awesome thread! This kind of stuff was what made me love VK and I still enjoy it a great deal. Never really listened to Revier, I'm surprised how good their vocalist sounds, is he in any other projects currently?
You already posted quite a few of my old favourites (girugamesh, UnsraW and MUCC), but here are some of my most beloved nu metal riffs.
 
My all time favourite is D'espa in their [Coll:Set] and BORN era, it's the stuff that got me into nu metal VK in the first place - Grudge, BORN and Quarter Void are among my favourites too, but In Vain was just my daily soundtrack to being an edgy teenager (and still is secretly).
 
 
I also love the riff in Bouzenjishitsu and Black:List's Throw Hope away, awesome vocals for both of them as well.
 
 
Too lazy to add any others right now, but there are countless of them I loved, maybe I will add some later. I guess DEZERT somewhat have the feeling of nu metal VK, don't they? Might be the reason why I dig them so much right now

Awesome thread! This kind of stuff was what made me love VK and I still enjoy it a great deal. Never really listened to Revier, I'm surprised how good their vocalist sounds, is he in any other projects currently?
You already posted quite a few of my old favourites (girugamesh, UnsraW and MUCC), but here are some of my most beloved nu metal riffs.
 
My all time favourite is D'espa in their [Coll:Set] and BORN era, it's the stuff that got me into nu metal VK in the first place - Grudge, BORN and Quarter Void are among my favourites too, but In Vain was just my daily soundtrack to being an edgy teenager (and still is secretly).
 
 
I also love the riff in Bouzenjishitsu and Black:List's Throw Hope away, awesome vocals for both of them as well.
 
 
Too lazy to add any others right now, but there are countless of them I loved, maybe I will add some later. I guess DEZERT somewhat have the feeling of nu metal VK, don't they? Might be the reason why I dig them so much right now

Consider it a sister thread to the oshare kei one. I think this is a delightful dualism to make, and I am all about that vkei history anyway so I'll take any excuse to make another one of these. 
 
The adoption of the nu metal riff and attitude into visual kei's musical framework happened just when the scene changed forever with the implosion of the old labels and bands. In the usual visual kei fashion we were late to the party just about a good five years too. It snuck itself in slowly, making cursory appearances at such places as MUCC's Antique from 1999, Kagerou's Biological Slicer from 2000, Aliene Mariage's farewell album 21st Century from 2001 and probably in retrospect most importantly, Dir en grey's Six Ugly from 2002. By the year 2006 ( which saw the release of both eight's ILLATIONAL and Girugamesh' 13's Reborn ) the nu metal riff had fundamentally transformed the landscape of visual kei. Below are some examples of the development that took place.
 
Before I get to that though, I have to say that there's not many scenes that can even begin to rival the longevity that visual kei bands, venues and its marketplace have enjoyed throughout its history. Still living both in the underground and occasionally even willing to take the L of performing at a half empty Budoukan, it ceases to amaze the spectators that stumble upon it; all the while all the goths of the bat caves, punks of 77' and dadrockers of the whatever, live out their legacies either through grandfathers or hack retro acts that suck by default. Granted it doesn't look the same, but indeed the willingness of its adherents to assimilate new currents have kept the hangman at bay and those nails off its coffin at least for now, which has allowed visual kei to remain a relatively recognisable brand for just about a few years short of three decades. 
 
This thread while also about the seminal bands that managed to break through, is just like its oshare counterpart moreso dedicated to honor and celebrate those little bands that everyone other than south american blogspots from 2007 forgot. If you were that angry young man in your mid teens back in 2008 you ought to know this stuff by heart
 
 
If anyone can name an earlier instance of a just straight up nu metal riff I'd appreciate it greatly. Early Mucc is of course classic vkei and Tatsurou puts in just a canonical performance as the narrator of desperate hearts. Their nu metal sound would get thicker and thicker up until 2004, when they went literally out the deep end, supposedly almost disbanding by the sheer weight of the recording process. My preference however remains the very earliest releases up to 2002.
 
 
From the band that made one of the best visual kei albums of all time comes a ripoff  of "Eyeless" by Slipknot - that's the sound of Aliene imploding into disbandment. While I think it's undeniably shit especially considering merits of their career up to that point, they lowkey took part in pioneering the nu metal sound in visual kei. Keep in mind that at the time of this recording Slipknot's s/t wasn't that old, and it is a sound that vk bands would keep on ripping off for almost a decade afterwards. Another thing of note was that the vocalist Kyoka also ditched the frilly dresses and adopted the nu metal fashion! While his sins are numerous, this has to be his worst offense. Either way an important document for visual kei's metamorphosis.
 
 
If the disease had only previously been a cough, after Dir en grey got through with it the scene quickly became hospitalised by it. They would continue riding roughshod over the genre until 2008's Uroboros where they'd go on to do more of the scene's pioneering work. Say what you will about them, they've continued to stay relevant through all these years and I think it's only very recently that the scene has stopped riding their coattails as much as it has. 
 
I'll keep it at that, though rest assured there's certainly numerous other examples of the early usage of the nu metal riff from around 99 to 2002 of varying importance in the canon.
 
Early Girugamesh is what most people have their fondest memories of, and everything up to 13's Reborn is as good as gold as far nu kei is concerned. Their suit wearing while certainly not the first time it had happen in vkei, it was probably the context in which girugamesh presented it that made all the difference for the future: the blackclad angryman playing just nu metal influenced visual kei. Oddly enough I despised Girugamesh as a child EVEN THOUGH THEY SOUND EXACTLY THE SAME AS ALL THESE OTHER BANDS and it took me deep into adulthood that I finally warmed up to them at all. 
 
Unsraw was my Girugamesh in a sense that they were the filthiest band I knew in my seminal vk years. Hearing Unsraw sent me on a quest of finding the most rad nu metal vk band out there, and more often than not it just led me to the disappointments that contributed to the failure I am today. Yuuki's vocals made a huge impression on me and it was ever the more bitter pill to swallow that they got very boring very quick. Their Core the Child hits being contemporary with Girugamesh' early ouvre, they can also be considered of relative importance. 
 
This is what this thread is about. Look at those clothes, that breakdown from 2.10 that lasts for an eternity and Since1889 was in general just the quintessential nukei vk band. So bad it's good.
 
 
Despite this band having just about eek'd past the 2010 limit, they deserve mention being one of those final bands at the tail end of this fad. The look is still very much 00's and not the glitz of the 10's, and more or less free of the soon scene dominating metalcore riff. Glorious vocals as well.
 
There's a million of these bands, AND THEY'RE ALL GREAT. Post favs, early specimens in the scene, anything that fits within the parameters.

420 a new vk classic imo

I really don't mind them taking a more pop-ish approach, but since their last album the soul seems to be gone completely. Both the production and how they play the songs just lacks any sort of passion I used to love these guys a lot, but this is just not for me anymore, no matter what genre they play. 

I totally get you man and I know the feeling very well, but if I have learned something throughout all the years I have done the online singing thing, it's that you should not focus too much on a few negative comments and take them to heart that much. I know very well that they hurt and can take your motivation away entirely for a while, but in the end it's just some people on the internet who have issues with your singing that can reach from just not liking the sound of your voice to personal reasons. I for one did enjoy your performance overall, just trying to be positive and show you that it might be worth sticking around if you enjoyed recording this album! But it's your decision in the end, just my two cents on the matter  

I totally get you man and I know the feeling very well, but if I have learned something throughout all the years I have done the online singing thing, it's that you should not focus too much on a few negative comments and take them to heart that much. I know very well that they hurt and can take your motivation away entirely for a while, but in the end it's just some people on the internet who have issues with your singing that can reach from just not liking the sound of your voice to personal reasons. I for one did enjoy your performance overall, just trying to be positive and show you that it might be worth sticking around if you enjoyed recording this album! But it's your decision in the end, just my two cents on the matter  

https://lichtnoire.bandcamp.com/album/sink
 

 
1. Lucid Nightmare (Intro) 
2. The Mirror 
3. Mental Chain
4. Utopia 
5. Suicide Note
6. Death Call
7. Lay to Rest
8. Dystopia 

You sir got yourself a fan ! Nice work keep it up 

New song sounds great man!

ZēTēS teaser!

https://soundcloud.com/hellion01/the-stallion-rises-demo
 
 
I posted this on my status but here's a "new" demo!
 
Influenced by Nocturnal Bloodlust , Dir en grey, the gazette, partying and just having a good ol time!
 
Enjoy.

Okay, I finally listened to this.
First off, be aware that there appears to be two track lists out there, one of which has the titles practically in reverse order. So watch out for that.
Now The Black Swan is clearly Jin just picking up the mess that NEGA left behind, so it's obvious that he had a Ruki-like iron grip on which direction the band's sound was going in. And that's... not necessarily a good thing. NEGA wasn't that great. There were signs of promise here and there, but they were few and far between. The same applies to The Black Swan.
NEGA was notorious for having awful production; listening to a NEGA song was like someone shoving my head into a pile of pots and pans, then clanging on them with a hammer. It's the opposite here. There's almost too much bass at some points. You don't have to be a major band to have good production, so I don't know what Jin's problem is.
The songs come across as tons of ideas just mashed together with no regard for how they fit (and yes, the trademark "NEGA SWOOSH" makes an appearance). The band is promising, but that doesn't matter if they don't know how to compose a song that makes sense. My main problem, though, is the same one I had with NEGA:
Jin
This dude can NOT sing at all. I mean, we all know that VK vocalists are almost always lacking in terms of technique because they just never bother to learn to sing. But with Jin it's not just hitting wrong notes or having no breath control; he lacks creativity when it comes to melody and phrasing. When Jin isn't aimlessly mumbling and whispering his way thru a verse, he sings a melody that he's probably used several times before. It makes everything he's ever done just sort of blend together.
But despite all that, I think Jin is super sincere about what he's doing. He just... doesn't really know how to do it. He needs guidance.

yo those screams r sicccccckkk

You have an amazing voice for Power Metal there, and I had hoped that that was what the rest of the track followed with as it began to build up towards something rather epic. But then the screams began and I find them to be very non-fitting and not in line with your clean voice, if I may be entirely honest. The combination just sounds very odd to me and the traversion from Power Metal into metalcore is rather sudden and... weird. As if the two pieces don't belong together.
Have you ever covered Power Metal? I'd love to hear you sing some Stratovarius.

Hey guys, we finished another song via homerecording and I thought I might share it again. We tried to improve some of the points that were criticised before, which for me was mainly emotion - hope you can hear the difference, would appreciate any feedback
 

Hey guys, I'd like to introduce my newly formed band, Closer To Ideal! We draw inspiration from bands like D'espairsRay, girugamesh, lynch and ALSDEAD, but also several Metalcore and Power Metal bands. The other two band members of CTI are quite experienced, however, for me, this is my first proper band experience. 
You can listen to our first song on YT and SoundCloud:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69deLRYMYds
https://soundcloud.com/quartervoid/closer-to-ideal-pulse
 
Any feedback is appreciated
Oh and if you like our stuff, check out our FB:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Closer-To-Ideal/684617381671324?fref=ts

My response......
 
 
Bruh.
 
This is sick.