Mamo

"just to find something that's actually related to what the whole forum is about" lol well if you are searching in the international music subforum and you still think that's bad then maybe we do need an international VK subfrum. international music is international music, you like the artists or not. nothing wrong with all those david guettas or kpop artists. they are in the section they belong to.

I guess after thinking about it, a subforum for overseas vk isn't necessary, cuz there's not a lot out there.
 
As for vk and non-visual threads in the news forum - sorry for drifting offtopic -, I think it should stay as it is, it's not that hard to add the "general" tag as the prefix, or you can just, y'know, skip it if you don't care. I don't think it's necessary to segregate the two as this is a Japanese rock forum after all.

Pretty sure brengun aka darkwater already made this thread not to mention they're really barely enough bands of this sort forming each year to warrant their own news section let alone an entire sub-forum.
 
If it happens it happens I guess I don't really care either way since I won't use it anyway but just seems like unessasary clutter when we already have an international music section. We may as well start a sub-forum for international music of every genre by that logic. Like I said pointless but I have no control over changes and additions to this forum, so I voted no.

Pretty sure brengun aka darkwater already made this thread not to mention they're really barely enough bands of this sort forming each year to warrant their own news section let alone an entire sub-forum.
 
If it happens it happens I guess I don't really care either way since I won't use it anyway but just seems like unessasary clutter when we already have an international music section. We may as well start a sub-forum for international music of every genre by that logic. Like I said pointless but I have no control over changes and additions to this forum, so I voted no.

I noticed the session too and was wondering if he moved to Tokyo. Would be really cool if they are Tokyo-based. I felt COCKROACH. played too rarely in Tokyo and i didnt want to fly to Sapporo everytime to see Kyotaro live, lol.

My other recommendation for Winter 2018 that just didn't have time to review is 明日の叙景 - わたしと私だったもの released February 24, 2018 an amazing blackgaze/post-black metal masterpiece. A genre I'm not to sure many users here would be familiar with especially vk listeners. It also has a lot of traditional Japanese elements as well. HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS ONE.
 

THIS. 
 
This is precisely my issue with FED.

ALTERED DIZAIN is bland other than the songs from the singles and Leda's guitar solos, completely forgettable. Dystopia  is pretty good I must admit though. Maybe it'll grown on me because I'm over the initial shock of the first listen, on my 3rd spin rn and seems a lot better but still pretty boring overall. What I can appreciate about this release is Leda's masterful guitar work and all of the the old singles being included was wise to help avoid the album being a complete flop imo. Overall I think I might need more time with it to properly judge but I'd probably give it like a 6/10 mainly because of the old songs: Beyond These Walls, Nadir, and especially inhale, as for the new songs I would give Dystopia a 6/10 and Double down about the same because they have their passable moments.
 
DIZAINERVE was far superior.

Yeah, for sure lol
 
Meh it's okay as a whole but if you only count the new songs it's generic and the only real highlight is Leda on guitar. Also DIZAINERVE was just better seemed to be some effort in that mini-album.
 
Same. It sucks, they really need to buckle down on 1 concept and stick with it their sound is so back and forth personally I think they should do more like "inhale". Keita is under utilized because they almost never allow him to do all of the awesome metalcore songs CodeRebirth did. Combined with FED's Djenty nature and complex bass solos, more metalcore would be nice.
 
The highlight of the album and the highlight of their career. Honestly "inhale" is the only song that I think truly lives up to Keita and Leda's potential.
 
Overall though it's okay I'll probably listen to it a lot because it compiles some good singles and a few decent new tracks and as always some brilliant guitar work on Leda's part. Keita's harsh vocals would be nice to hear more often too. But yeah it's an okay album.

DEXCORE has officially been uploaded onto Spotify as of today. 

Look on the bright side, Keita isn't "rapping" at least.
Also, it was already established that Leda has an illness called Shit Taste, for which there is no cure.
 
But, honestly, as a package, it's an overall solid record, I mean, in context of Leda's previous works, it's certainly lacking, but considering the whole scene, it's still up there.
 
Though, my main issue with this album, and FED in general, is the utter disappointment (most notably with Tonick Dizain) that I get with nearly every release. It's good, sometimes great, even. But they have the potential to do so much more and that's what pisses me off.
 
(also including a 2-fucking-year old single...which is still the highlight of the album)

Doesn't matter, it just doesn't make sense to me. Why does this thread even exist then?
As a bait? Do people get off of doing something like that? "huehue I downvoted a random picture on a random website, that'll hurt him huehuehue".
Some people on this forum must lead very sad lives.

I post here and people downvote lmao

While not a band within the genres mentioned in the OP, I'm still gonna post this band as they're black metal.
 
Wigrid! The debut album were highly influenced by Burzum, and I would guess especially Det som engang var and Burzum/Aske. Albeit with a more depressive twist to it all. The second album is also very Burzum influenced, but it's slower and contains much more traditional depressive black metal riffing similar to what you'd hear in Strid, Nidhoggr and Nyktalgia.
 
I'll have to go with Hoffnungstod as the best of the two albums, but both are absolutely amazing. Hoffnungstod is a modern classic and one of the best black metal albums of the 2000's imo.
 
 
The reason I had to post this is because I am a huge fan, and I am gonna get dressed and walk up to my local mail office and pick up Discography Box Part II, which is the second tape box that collects every Wigrid and Elfenblut (pre-Wigrid) material, with the exception of the two tracks from the latest split release. I liked the first one a lot, so I will be pleased about getting this too. Like the first box it also contains a 3" CD with a track.

Arrived today
Two more, then I'm done for the year (until something rare pops up~)

literally print this entire post and make it the new header for the forum
 
also @ DW, you might wanna get this egomania and saviour behavior checked, all you're doing is harming a dying scene and an old community that's always been getting things around since way before you probably knew the internet existed. as much as you want to, you're not gonna control how an entire forum and group thinks and does things. thankfully not everything is or should be tailored to your own specific wishes.

dumb sis, I (and most of my clique) have been purchasing legal media (and concert tickets, if we're at it) since ~2004, when the only delivery option was DHL and it was expensive a.f. to ship shizzle alone
 
I lost interest in ~supporting the scene~ almost completely many years ago and buy less than 3 CDs per year on average and I don't care if you're trying to buff your own ego by re-telling no1curr indiefag bandomen some distorted version of western fandom you're trying to invent for whom? for what?
 
literally get a life and get off social media and let band management do their job deciding how and where to sell their products.
 
oh and learn how to make coherent points, or something, for real, before u run amok screaming about muh filesharing gaijin pigguz

The "not selling to overseas fans because it will end up online 99% of the time" just seems like rampant xenophobia tbh, and they don't deserve money if that's the case.

I want to recommend two albums I'm obsessed with but that haven't been mentioned yet. 
The first one is Stellar by der Weg einer Freiheit.  Very atmospheric post black metal with German lyrics.
 
 
The second one is Nacht by Madmans Esprit.  Extremely gloomy and depressive avantgarde with Korean lyrics.
 
 
 

It's a digital distribution! Snag that shit, yo!
 
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/black-pig/1367139329?i=1367139335

Mazeran new pic posted~
https://www.last.fm/music/マゼラン/+images/284e9870b0b392c788b780ccefb20a20

LMAO ditto

I'm not an expert on this subject, but there is a difference. I think an easy explanation would be so say that avant-garde is about being very heavy on the experimentation and about being innovative and unique, whereas progressive are about making more complex music and creating music with more complex song structures. A lot of progressive music are also radio friendly as fuck, but avant-garde usually isn't - for a good reason.
 
Some suggestion that makes it easy to hear the difference.
 
Progressive black metal:
 
Enslaved - Below the Lights
Borknagar - The Archaic Course
Hidden in the Fog - Damokles
 
Avant-garde black metal:
 
Anubi - Kai pilnaties akis užmerks mirtis 
Ved buens ende - Written in Waters
Deathspell Omega - Paracletus
 
 
 
But which bands would that be? I have a decent knowledge of the genre and I have heard a lot of bands, but I have yet to find a band that can not be placed in an already existing subgenre of black metal. And if they don't fit into one, we usually use two. Hell, maybe we'll use three to describe the sound.
 
I think genres, be it in form of comics, music, books, films/TV-series, games or whatever else should be helpful in a way. It should tell you something helpful about the product, about how it is. If you throw 10 entirely different sounding bands into one genre, how is that genre any helpful at all?
 
 
Wouldn't the better thing to do be to just call the likes of Altar of Plagues and The Great Old Ones atmospheric/ambient black metal, and call Bosse-de-Nage black metal/post-hardcore? Because there's just no way they belong to the same subgenre. 
 
 
I don't agree at all. By putting black metal, prog, jazz, electronica, classical or whatever maingenre you can think about  after the avant-garde you'll get a much better idea about what type of avant-garde it is, because avant-garde can be a lot of different things. If you take a listen to the four albums below you'll get what I mean, and why I mean it's necessary.
 
Igor Stravinsky - Petrushka
Ornette Coleman - The Shape of Jazz to Come
Ved buens ende - Written in Waters
Ulver - Themes from William Blake's The Marriage of Heaven and Hell
 
 
 
I know we might be a bit off-topic here, but I really enjoy this discussion. I feel like I am getting a lot of knowledge atm. Two thumbs up!

Gonna try being a bit on topic too and post a few of my favourite symphonic black metal albums
 
 
 
Didn't find the whole debut album, The Nightspectral Voyage, from Obsidian Gate on youtube, but this album is damn fucking good. It's one hell of a massive album. These would also be my favourite albums from all these bands. Grand, dark, majestic, powerful. When done right, symphonic black metal is among my favourite subgenres of black metal. It's a shame too many piss weak bands are giving the genre a bad name, though.