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Uh, hey, did you make another account @HarukiTakanashi ?

Uh, hey, did you make another account @HarukiTakanashi ?

Dressed up for Halloween as a cheap Ai from gulu gulu.  I actually felt really beautiful lol 
 

I met royalty!!
 

bless PureSound

FINALLY FINALYYYYYY after a month of waiting to listen to Hueye omg
 

 
Hueye - Rousoku to BLACKOUT
Hueye - Anesthesia
Zerocre - Seirei
a crowd of rebellion - Black_24 (the "BLACK" text is printed on an additional plastic sleeve the CD comes in? so fancy??)
 
 
I hypothesise that you chose the "image link" option instead of "direct link" option. if that's the case, choosing direct link should fix it~ 
 

FINALLY FINALYYYYYY after a month of waiting to listen to Hueye omg
 

 
Hueye - Rousoku to BLACKOUT
Hueye - Anesthesia
Zerocre - Seirei
a crowd of rebellion - Black_24 (the "BLACK" text is printed on an additional plastic sleeve the CD comes in? so fancy??)
 
 
I hypothesise that you chose the "image link" option instead of "direct link" option. if that's the case, choosing direct link should fix it~ 
 

FINALLY FINALYYYYYY after a month of waiting to listen to Hueye omg
 

 
Hueye - Rousoku to BLACKOUT
Hueye - Anesthesia
Zerocre - Seirei
a crowd of rebellion - Black_24 (the "BLACK" text is printed on an additional plastic sleeve the CD comes in? so fancy??)
 
 
I hypothesise that you chose the "image link" option instead of "direct link" option. if that's the case, choosing direct link should fix it~ 
 

"This video is only available to Music Premium members" what?

Just my most recent CDJapan package! Very pleased to finally own devils in bedside and Black rain.  
 

 
9GOATS BLACK OUT - devils in bedside
9GOATS BLACK OUT - Black rain
DIR EN GREY - ARCHE
DEVILOOF - 鬼
MEJIBRAY - Emotional 【Karma】

Finally

Hello, I'm a new person on this forum that I found because of Dir En Grey's comment section on their videos on Youtube.
 
Basic information about me is that I discovered Visual Kei because of comments on songs from Babymetal. They led me to the gazette which lead me to dir en grey which lead me to Jupiter and the rest is history.
 
If anyone wants to chat I'm open for conversations from people
 

hello emo girl here
 
 

Amai Bouryoku - 幸せだよ。殺したい。(Shiawasedayo。 Koroshitai。)
Amai Bouryoku - 清楚系不純エゴ (Seisoukei Fujun EGO)
Amai Bouryoku - 自分を殺す、ということ (Jibun wo Korosu, to Iu koto)
Amai Bouryoku - ハジメマシテ。(HAJIMEMASHITE。)
Schwarz Stein - Queen Leech
 
 
also crying because that delayed ZeroCre single is making me wait for new Hueye, since I ordered them together T___T 

#prayforzerocre

and now Sora won't be participating in their next performance, due to family reasons. This band if off to a good start~ 
 
 

they just... put the song on Spotify?
 
https://open.spotify.com/track/0YeZlDHFGAF0twEbvPM2NZ
 
(and various other streaming services too I guess: https://linkco.re/Sx5sEeD5) 

Amai Bouryoku - 幸せだよ。殺したい。(Shiawasedayo。 Koroshitai。)
Amai Bouryoku - 清楚系不純エゴ (Seisoukei Fujun EGO)
Amai Bouryoku - 自分を殺す、ということ (Jibun wo Korosu, to Iu koto)
Amai Bouryoku - ハジメマシテ。(HAJIMEMASHITE。)
Schwarz Stein - Queen Leech
 
 
also crying because that delayed ZeroCre single is making me wait for new Hueye, since I ordered them together T___T 

That must have been recent b/c I've been able to access the track before 😕. It looks like YouTube is gradually shifting a bunch of music (that are Google/YouTube Music-related) behind their premium paywall ;_;.
 
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2:07 ~ 2:36 tho

I should take nicer pictures but I'm exhausted and just got home so lol 
Big fugging order is here and ofc mostly dimlim stuff cause I'm obsessed dork 
 
In case u cant see everything I got
 
5 verxina keychains, they were random so sadly I missed out on Coco
2 scapegoat cheki
1 scapegoat wristband
Insult kiss single by sarigia
Kidoairaku live limited release by dimlim 
2 dimlim shirts
1 dimlim hoodie
1 dimlim tote
1 dimlim pouch 
 
 

Hello everyone! I'm a 19 year old visual kei/J-metal fan from Indiana, USA. I got into visual kei some time last year by accidentally stumbling upon Grieva's Wish PV through a game called Board Game Online. After attending a visual kei panel at Anime Weekend Atlanta a couple of months later, I only became more fascinated by J-metal and visual kei as a whole. I'm a massive fan of Kamijo, Malice Mizer, Moi dix Mois, and Dir en Grey (surprise) and I'm also looking more into indie bands such as Dear L'Novel, Vallquar, and Madieduor. 
 
At the moment, I'm just eagerly waiting for AWA 2019 to get to meet Mana-sama in person.
 
Cheers, everyone! Great to be here!

Commenting a bit on what was discussed here. Just my two cents, aight. Or, uh, a lot of cents. Sorry I'm terrible at Explaining.

I don't know, I think the otaku/anime/manga fan crowd is actually quite keen on keeping up with Japan's youth, and Japan's youth has been listening a lot to K-pop too. I don't see a necessary overlap in fandom, but yes, there are people who like both. Although I think the cultural ties to these two as well as, say, AKB48 - idols, of course - sees reflexion in anime fandom as the plethora of idol anime/mobage products (started with Love Live and IM@S newer spinoffs, also UtaPri and now its Enstars, HypMic, Bandori, Dreaming!, Idolish7 ...), doesn't mean they enjoy the 3DPD idols of k-pop lol. Also, for international fans, k-pop is way more accessible than Japanese music nowadays. It's in every streaming platform, every twitter handle, every magazine, you don't even have to saerch. It's so easy to stumble into it so while back then people knew about K-pop because of Japanese music, now it's much more the other way around. I think most of the k-pop crowd - as part of it myself - is either like, 20%ish people on their 20s or maybe 30s who were formerly fans of Asian music in general (me!) and/or younger people who had incursions because of East Asian ancestry, and a majority of teens who are into k-pop because of YouTube and/or BTS or any overlap of these two. But yes, I definitely think that with k-pop being way more accessible - and presenting the same sort of "we are anime boys" fantasy that vk did a decade ago - it's not really surprising that some people who want to get a feel of East Asian culture are into it nowadays. Speaking of which, I grew up (in the 2000s) listening to a lot of Japanese music and watching anime and stuff, but even before BoA I've always been pretty immersed in SK culture as well because of MMOs so maybe this isn't even such a new trend. The media and pop cultures do overlap a lot at times. (*cough* do you know Tri-Angle *cough*)
 
I also realized a lot of people who were dragged into K-pop through East Asian music market in general had a few favorite songs/groups - or even one favorite in particular - but since Korean TV shows love to mix the groups they end up discovering other acts and becoming a fan as well - I know that is my case since I used to say I hate k-pop for a good 6 years from 2009 to 2015. Speaking of cultural interchanging I think the most extreme of k-pop fans - at least in my experience since I am always biting my own tail by saying I don't like rap and proceeding to be a fan of every group with 3+ rappers in the market but maybe that's because they actually do rap and not just digdigdoo their way through the annoyingly obligatory rap sequence  - actually end up listening to black music because that's what their idols are listening to, which I found so funny.
 
Lastly, I have to disagree that k-pop sounds like Western music. I think the Apop market specifically has been pretty weak since, uh, probably the decline of Lady Gaga and the crash of Disney stars and you don't see such bubblegummy pop songs so much anymore even among artists who excelled at it before (like, say, Katy Perry or Jessie J) ; people who still do it, like, say, Carly Rae Jepsen are pretty much adored, but it's somehow not the trend anymore I think? So back then I thought that Apop was in many ways superior to kpop, but I don't think so anymore, not to my tastes at least - sometimes I'm listening to the radio and I'm happy when BTS comes up because this is the bubblegummy happy song I want. And you know what I mean when I say all k-pop sounded like uh fantastic baby naega jail jam nagagagagaga. (Also, I was talking to an online friend who happened to go through the same ~stages of Asian music~ as myself and we did notice a trend of, sometimes girl groups doing better and sometimes boy groups doing better. I think it was definitely like, -06 for bgs, 07-10 for ggs, 11-14 for bgs, 15-17 for ggs and now we're having a bg era again, or something to that effect, and she agreed with me.)
 
But yeah, it's no metal nowadays either.
 
Also, to whoever asked about other genres of music in the Korean market, Korean music isn't just k-pop (surprisingly, not really, as the same applies to music in pretty much uh every country) and personally I listen to a lost of other artists, from Alice Vicious to Norazo to Guckkasten to Epik High. They're just, well, not k-pop which is a very specific market with very specific rules. Another important thing to note is that most times these idols are basically trained - not for cheap - by the companies behind them, and they don't always follow their careers so closely and teens are left on their own to produce stuff. Not saying this happens to the biggest of them, but smaller companies? Definitely. And sometimes they end up spewing dumb racist/homophobic bullshit thinking it's cool, but it's not happening so much nowadays.
 
I also think this shift from people from, say, Japanese music to k-pop has something to do with the decline of Being an emo kid is cool culture because, lol, music that actually hits your soul and makes you think about life? Pfft, let's go for the bubblegummy songs that promote sex exploitation, it's much better this way. I think it is just this global culture shift.  
 
So to me saying yes, VK and K-pop are similar because they're both music for fans of music, and it happens to be East Asian music! is the same as saying yeah, if you like Jay Z you'll probably like Billie Eilish because they're both American and seeking fans!, which is kind of... no. In many ways it's not similar. I think the shift is because of cultural changes and accessibility much more than because humans all of a sudden can't distinguish intricate music from pop music anymore.
 
But yes, of course the "we look like anime boys with our perfect makeup and cool blue hair, please love us" aesthetic of k-pop is a thing that drags young people into it into k-pop, but I guess the same could be said for, like, hip youtubers. You can't really avoid the aesthetic of things, I guess. Says the grown up woman who has a picture of candy floss-haired k-pop boy on her profile picture. But take me as you will really. Funnily, I can say I am much more appreciative of vk for the aesthetics it presents - not just "oh, ok, it's hot boys and I can ship them!" but I mean the actual aesthetic in the sense of the culture/semiology it expresses - than I am of k-pop for these reasons. I swear I do not care for 17 year old girls being kawaii ( but man, I love some of the songs they have! Very Very Very is Astounding! Lipstick is Excellent! Likey is Quintessential! Russian Roulette is Classic! Bboom Bboom is Amazing! ) nor am I particularly interested in 20 year old boys flexing their excessively worked out abs - I honestly think of how bad their health must be before I can even try to appreciate the abs - but still I love some of the music they have. (FYI, my favorites don't fall into either, for the most part. I'm always with the kawaii boys crowd or the WAHRGAH ANGRY boys crowd lol.) 
 
I recently had my first few experiences actually being to k-pop concerts and ... suffice to say I had such a blast I'm actually considering to do research on it now. I'm a psychologist and happen to study cultural industries and workers health, and was precisely seeking a topic for my masters and I'm really considering dropping everything I had planned to do in order to delve into this phenomenon which I find to be the prime example of pop Asian music market being a lot more about visuals and the boyfriend experience than music lol. ("Are you trying to find an excuse to go to concerts more often?" Precisely.)

Tl;dr: woman tried to enjoy k-pop but failed miserably in  her teens, now is a graduated and practicing psychologist, sees all the problems with the industry but still can't help but be supportive of her fav k-pop boys, still unsure if it does more good or harm to them.
 
As a footnote ... I did this thing a while back but never posted so here it is. It's just for fun but it really makes you think of what has become of the remnants of the VK scene and how cultures just overlap.