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I bought a (second-hand) copy of アヲイ's フテキゴウな林檎 that has a signed tray card. It was only ¥500 so that's cool! Can't remember if I have anything else that's サイン入り.
 
... oh wait there's also an autograph card that I got with a (again, second-hand) copy of R指定's オカルト地獄 but I don't know where it is lol.
 
dunno if it counts but also an autographed sheet that came with MERRY's Modern Garde with cartoon drawings of the band members, but the signatures look photocopied.

Having the whole MERRY crew sign a CD jacket is my pride and joy. ;w; Other than that, on the not-so-vk side I have autographs from Sadie Pink Galaxy, Chargeeeeee, and short hand-written notes/letters from lloy's Yuko-Kat.

Never got anything signed in person cuz I'm cheap white trash and got into this fandom late, but I have an old Merry pamphlet with the members' signatures on the back. Also, some of the Lin/Megaromania (mostly Sui) cheki I have are signed.

I felt like this might be a fun topic, who's autograph, in the world of VK, do you have?
 
I have the autographs of the members of MIZTAVLA, I got them twice, and I'm gonna be getting a third with their new mini in June XD

Interesting.
 
I have several autographs from all D, VRZEL, Matenrou Opera. and Flow members. My goal is to get Tomiko Van to sign some of my CDs at the meet and greet in July.

Can we all acknowledge that flying out to Japan to see Mejibray live in order to give a "credible" opinion is rather absurd?
 
"I don't like this band."
 
"But you didn't see them live."
 
"OF COURSE I DIDNT! THEY PLAY IN VENUES THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY FROM WHERE I LIVE! WTF?!"

oops yeah i fucked that up. just swiftly googled and was 2 lazy to copypaste the original titles from the files. 
 
I wrote what I look forward from them, and then what I perceive they gave regarding this paradigm ( this is why I don't score also, to emphasise subjectivity. I just don't feel like pussyfooting and adding I THINK or IN MY OPINION in front of every sentence just to appease people ). Don't give a shite what anyone else wants or thinks, and 3 was indeed not what I was hoping to see. From them I pray for one thing only, which is indeed a certain stylistic direction that is not this one but what they've done a few times before. I call it like I see it. Listened to it probably five or six times now, i think it's tired af save for masturbation

lmao you're literally sitting here implying people's opinions aren't credible because they aren't ~part of the scene~ and you don't seem to understand why they're getting salty with you?
 
Here's the thing YOU seem confused about. You seem to be confusing "your consumption and interaction with the band are financially irrelevant" to "your opinion is irrelevant and no one should care about it." Let's, for a moment, humor whoever it was in this thread who said vk is "art." Here's the thing about art - once it's produced and released into the world, in whatever form it may be in, it's out of the artists' hands, and it becomes a matter of opinion and interpretation for whoever is consuming it in whatever manner they see fit. You don't get to sit here and tell people the ~correct~ way to consume it (i.e. attending lives in Japan) and you don't get to sit here and tell them their opinions are invalid because they're not consuming it in the way it was "intended" or in the way that is most financially profitable for the band. If Miley Cyrus owns literally thousands of hip hop CDs then I imagine she has her reasons for having her opinions, and while obviously no one is obligated to take her opinion seriously, that doesn't mean it's baseless. In fact, let's rework that last sentence in the context of this thread and see what happens:

"It's kind of like [a foreign visual kei fan] wanting people to care about her opinion on [visual kei]. She's free to do so, but nobody's going to giving it much weight, irrelevant of how much she may or may not be a fan of [visual kei], how many CDs she owns, etc. because it's not based on anything credible."

 

lmao you're literally sitting here implying people's opinions aren't credible because they aren't ~part of the scene~ and you don't seem to understand why they're getting salty with you?
 
Here's the thing YOU seem confused about. You seem to be confusing "your consumption and interaction with the band are financially irrelevant" to "your opinion is irrelevant and no one should care about it." Let's, for a moment, humor whoever it was in this thread who said vk is "art." Here's the thing about art - once it's produced and released into the world, in whatever form it may be in, it's out of the artists' hands, and it becomes a matter of opinion and interpretation for whoever is consuming it in whatever manner they see fit. You don't get to sit here and tell people the ~correct~ way to consume it (i.e. attending lives in Japan) and you don't get to sit here and tell them their opinions are invalid because they're not consuming it in the way it was "intended" or in the way that is most financially profitable for the band. If Miley Cyrus owns literally thousands of hip hop CDs then I imagine she has her reasons for having her opinions, and while obviously no one is obligated to take her opinion seriously, that doesn't mean it's baseless. In fact, let's rework that last sentence in the context of this thread and see what happens:

"It's kind of like [a foreign visual kei fan] wanting people to care about her opinion on [visual kei]. She's free to do so, but nobody's going to giving it much weight, irrelevant of how much she may or may not be a fan of [visual kei], how many CDs she owns, etc. because it's not based on anything credible."

 

lmao you're literally sitting here implying people's opinions aren't credible because they aren't ~part of the scene~ and you don't seem to understand why they're getting salty with you?
 
Here's the thing YOU seem confused about. You seem to be confusing "your consumption and interaction with the band are financially irrelevant" to "your opinion is irrelevant and no one should care about it." Let's, for a moment, humor whoever it was in this thread who said vk is "art." Here's the thing about art - once it's produced and released into the world, in whatever form it may be in, it's out of the artists' hands, and it becomes a matter of opinion and interpretation for whoever is consuming it in whatever manner they see fit. You don't get to sit here and tell people the ~correct~ way to consume it (i.e. attending lives in Japan) and you don't get to sit here and tell them their opinions are invalid because they're not consuming it in the way it was "intended" or in the way that is most financially profitable for the band. If Miley Cyrus owns literally thousands of hip hop CDs then I imagine she has her reasons for having her opinions, and while obviously no one is obligated to take her opinion seriously, that doesn't mean it's baseless. In fact, let's rework that last sentence in the context of this thread and see what happens:

"It's kind of like [a foreign visual kei fan] wanting people to care about her opinion on [visual kei]. She's free to do so, but nobody's going to giving it much weight, irrelevant of how much she may or may not be a fan of [visual kei], how many CDs she owns, etc. because it's not based on anything credible."

 

Something tells me that these Dir stans and VK stans have never ever even touched acts outside of their comfort zone a la akin to Rurutia, Haco etc.
 
@Ro plzsaid it well: guys, your kneejerk reactions should be defo toned down or we'll reach the point where these guys are not allowed to do effing anything 
 
Just what exactly would be "not cringey" according to your standpoints, hm?

lmao you're literally sitting here implying people's opinions aren't credible because they aren't ~part of the scene~ and you don't seem to understand why they're getting salty with you?
 
Here's the thing YOU seem confused about. You seem to be confusing "your consumption and interaction with the band are financially irrelevant" to "your opinion is irrelevant and no one should care about it." Let's, for a moment, humor whoever it was in this thread who said vk is "art." Here's the thing about art - once it's produced and released into the world, in whatever form it may be in, it's out of the artists' hands, and it becomes a matter of opinion and interpretation for whoever is consuming it in whatever manner they see fit. You don't get to sit here and tell people the ~correct~ way to consume it (i.e. attending lives in Japan) and you don't get to sit here and tell them their opinions are invalid because they're not consuming it in the way it was "intended" or in the way that is most financially profitable for the band. If Miley Cyrus owns literally thousands of hip hop CDs then I imagine she has her reasons for having her opinions, and while obviously no one is obligated to take her opinion seriously, that doesn't mean it's baseless. In fact, let's rework that last sentence in the context of this thread and see what happens:

"It's kind of like [a foreign visual kei fan] wanting people to care about her opinion on [visual kei]. She's free to do so, but nobody's going to giving it much weight, irrelevant of how much she may or may not be a fan of [visual kei], how many CDs she owns, etc. because it's not based on anything credible."

 

Mejibray - SM (Limited Edition) <- This was actually a late birthday present from my boyfriend.  XD
Dog in the PWO - Heart (CD+DVD Limited Edition)
D=OUT - バクチ / 魁swallowtail (Limited Edition)
 
Ignore the Pusheen box in the corner of the picture.  I was taking pics of it for a friend.

well as a useless baka gaijin I guess I'd better quit listening to vk and following vk bands and buying vk bands' CDs and merch and just giving a shit about vk at all then, if I can't go to lives ever, even though this is 2017 we're living in and everything gets consumed internationally these days through this magical invention called the Internet

can't help but feel that this whole debate is much ado about nothing 
 
if you're living in japan and regularly go to lives then you're entitled to give your opinion on their lives. if you're an international fan who voraciously gobbles up all their releases (legally or not) then you're entitled to evaluate the quality of their recorded music. the problem only arises when this discussion bleeds into the neighboring terrain of 'how does one objectively judge a band's quality?' or 'what's the proper way of enjoying a band?'--which never fails to generate 5 pages of same old thing that impresses no one in particular...
 
then there's the question of how much instrumental value you are actually of to the band, which is related but entirely separable from the first. it's def true that the actual impact of someone ordering a 3000 yen album from CDJapan on the band is probably a lot less than they think, but that doesn't reduce the weight of their opinion on the band's recorded music. critics all over the world are paid to do exactly that: to give their opinions while remaining pretty much monetarily irrelevant.

The end of 2016 and the beginning of 2017 has seen a lot of arrests of visual kei members. While band members skirting the law - and sometimes even breaking it - is nothing new, it is rather unusual to see so many high-profile cases in such a short time span. So today, let's indulge in some visual kei drama both past and present and look at some other famous cases and arrests. Grab some tea, because this topic is going to get delicious.
 
Disclaimer: While the title says "Bad Boys" of visual kei, some of the stuff covered here is particularly heinous. It's one thing to be a "bad boy" and it's another thing to be a rapist. Please don't read into the title too much.
 

Sakura (The Madcap Laughs, ex-L'arc~en~ciel)
 

Dai (Himitsu Kessha Kodomo A (秘密結社コドモA))
 

 
Kisaki (Lin, Phantasmagoria)
 

SHINTARO (ex-アイヲロスト)
 

Miyawaki Wataru (ex-12012)
 

Tomioka Hiroshi / Dynamite Tommy (Free Will president)
 

Manew (ex-The♡Valentine)
 

Akinori (ex. lynch.)
 

TAKAHIRO (ex-FAZ)
 

RIO (ex--LONDBOY)
 

shia (chanty)
 

Daishi (ex-Psycho le Cemu)
 

KISAKI DID NOTHING WRONG YOU RACISTS
 
 

Didn't someone from Dear L'Novel get kicked out for doing something to a fan? Or am I misremembering him as someone from Black Cat?
 
http://www.jpopasia.com/feed/17599/ex-black-cats-shintaro-accused-of-having-sex-with-minors/
 
Chloroform almost disbanded because of something their vocalist did. I believe the thread here said the other band members described it as "inexcusable behavior," although no one's come forward with what it was iirc.
 
Supposedly Yuuga (of both Devil Kitties) used to beat bandmen who were signed to his label. There was probably another issue at some point with the vocalist of Curse / Mareli (who is currently the vocalist of The Kiryu)  being super young, since I read he joined at band while in middle school and both bands were signed to Yuuga's label. I believe Curse eventually up and left his label and turned into LutenA, but any insinuation of drama to cause this is purely speculation on my part.
 
There was also a stint where he forced a member of Rentrer en Soi to grovel on stage for getting his sister pregnant (which is why one of their first guitarists left). @Takadanobabaalienmay have more details on Yuuga's workings in general.
 
 
Also, prayer candle lit for when Noah of Avanchick told Betty to not perform with them because it would make less people show up to their gigs, which then caused most of Rockstar Records come forward about the label dumping all of their funds into one band. #visualKeiWikiLeaks2016

well as a useless baka gaijin I guess I'd better quit listening to vk and following vk bands and buying vk bands' CDs and merch and just giving a shit about vk at all then, if I can't go to lives ever, even though this is 2017 we're living in and everything gets consumed internationally these days through this magical invention called the Internet

well as a useless baka gaijin I guess I'd better quit listening to vk and following vk bands and buying vk bands' CDs and merch and just giving a shit about vk at all then, if I can't go to lives ever, even though this is 2017 we're living in and everything gets consumed internationally these days through this magical invention called the Internet

Y'all suffering from PTSD over Satsuki really bad? YIKES. Can't relate. 
 
Maybe i'm reading this wrong but it's almost like y'all want this shit to be bad lmaooo
 
First song sounds like it'll be pretty nice too but im still hella stoked for the second one. 

Leaves' Eyes is sHOOK

No need to fume over goddamn teasers lmao - even if this angelic gimmick has been overdone by Satsuki already.
 
I could see this being better than DECAYS too btw.

well as a useless baka gaijin I guess I'd better quit listening to vk and following vk bands and buying vk bands' CDs and merch and just giving a shit about vk at all then, if I can't go to lives ever, even though this is 2017 we're living in and everything gets consumed internationally these days through this magical invention called the Internet