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    The Moon got a reaction from Furik in DIR EN GREY released their 10th album "The Insulated World" on September 26, 2018   
    i have an infection x 
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    The Moon got a reaction from raspberrynilla in Dir en grey   
    it's called fashion sweaty x 
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    The Moon got a reaction from emmny in Dir en grey   
    it's called fashion sweaty x 
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    The Moon got a reaction from suji in Dir en grey   
    it's called fashion sweaty x 
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    The Moon got a reaction from emmny in 砂月 -SATSUKI- new album, "REBOOT" release   
    queen of the former soviet states when will ur fav literally ever x
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    The Moon got a reaction from PIZAZ in 砂月 -SATSUKI- new album, "REBOOT" release   
    queen of the former soviet states when will ur fav literally ever x
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    The Moon got a reaction from saishuu in 砂月 -SATSUKI- new album, "REBOOT" release   
    queen of the former soviet states when will ur fav literally ever x
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    The Moon reacted to Furik in 8P-SB   
    They are on drugs. What the fuck are they doing. Fuck this band. Give me Mejibray. What are they doing. I’m so mad. I’m also drunk. 
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    The Moon reacted to suji in The Bad Boys of Visual Kei   
    then commit tax fraud x
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    The Moon reacted to Peace Heavy mk II in The Bad Boys of Visual Kei   
    I voted for Akinori. Weed really messes up a perosn and leads them to do worse drugs like nikwil and caffine 
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    The Moon reacted to Peace Heavy mk II in Homage-系 - The Art of Being Someone Else   
    The visual-kei scene is full of its own quirks and oddities that make it stand out from any other subculture in the music world; these hallmarks also appear to resonate at a national level, in spite of the culture stemming from several metropolitan hubs, each with their own small variants. One of these traits, for better or for worse, is how willing the scene is to reference itself. Since 2013, “willing” has become the incorrect word. “Obsessed,” “addicted,” “driven,” “obligated”; these words seem to fit the bill closer. References to older material is not uncommon in any medium of art, but visual-kei takes it four steps further to emulation. Today is the day we talk about homage-系 (Kei), kids.

    “Homage-kei” is a made up word. It isn’t a real category to anyone else other than people who use this board, to be honest, but it is an apt descriptor for this phenomenon. This is when a band reuses melodies, thematic, aesthetics, and even titles from an older, typically more successful, band or bands. However: their music also contains many original elements, which sets them apart from being a literal cover band. It also needs to be more than a single occurrence as well: Dir en grey “””borrowing””” the main riff of Luna Sea’s “G” is not enough, but borrowing the front-man of 黒夢 (Kuroyume)’s aesthetic for several music videos is.
     


    There are several bands that would fall under this umbrella from the late 2000’s. Two I want to touch on are Ru:Natic and the infamous Vajra. The first was one of the earliest examples I can think of that tried to revive the aggressive and bloody punk-meets-goth-meets-pop style popularized in the mid-90’s. They wore black clothes, had neon hair, and sang about being a crazy person invited to dinner parties that they had no business attending. While they weren’t the only group doing this (re: Sadie’s Mary and Sadie’sla), they were the first to start reusing melodies from older bands, namely La:Sadie’s, Madeth Gray’ll, and Aliene Ma’riage. There was even a hard-to-come-by single that was a reinterpretation of Baiser’s “undersea” and they had a demo tape that contained covers from some of the bands previously mentioned. They even lost a bunch of members, changed record labels, and released a lot of rare material: all cornerstones of “what an old school band does.” In my memory of the scene, this was the first time we got a real taste of bands reinventing the 90s sound that many people liked, but had fallen out of favor.
     



    Vajra was fun for the wrong reasons. Their costumes were kind of similar to UnsraW and thematically they were a bit too close to Dir en grey for the fan base at the time’s comfort. One of their singles was apparently a near 1:1 facsimile of another Dir en grey track and that caused a shitstorm on last.fm . For days people were arguing back and forth about whether it was a copy or not. Our own dear @Zeus requested someone overlay it with the original so we could see how similar it was. I personally did not have a horse in that race, but for hours or entertainment seeing the bickering between the hordes of people in outrage vs that one person who apparently went to their shows regularly and gave sympathetic updates about how this was affecting the band personally. Take his with a grain of salt, as it is only a Western interpretation of what happened and I cannot speak to how it was received by fans who could actually go see them in person. Regardless of where you stood in this fight, history’s take is that it did not end well for Vajra; they broke up shortly after only to be remembered as “that band that tried to be Diru.”
     
    Both examples were, in retrospect, unsuccessful. Ru:Natic, in their heyday, missed the boat on people eating up old-school revival acts by about 3 years, then only played again in one-off events. Vajra, on the other hand, failed for a couple of reasons. The first is that the fan base wasn’t ready for their style of tribute-meets-original-works. Secondly, there wasn’t enough time passed between what they performed and when their source material was released. Based on later act’s success, time helps prevent “a homage” from being seen as “a rip-off.”
     


    Earlier I had mentioned 2013 being the starting point for “homage-kei,” in a more official (but still unofficial) sense. That’s because グリヴァー (GRIEVA) happened and caused a shift in the scene. For those unfamiliar, Grieva’s whole schtick was that they dressed like a modern version of 1998 Dir en grey and made music that sounded like it could have came from from the same time frame. However, after people got a hold of their first album, it became alarming clear that it was one big tribute to “Gauze” (Dir en grey’s first album). A lot of songs “borrowed” the melodies of Gauze-era songs, their music videos were kind of like high school kids reenacting their idol’s work for a class project, and you were even able to draw parallels to the lyrical content. Grieva handled this clearly stating their theme is to bring back the feeling of the old days, and even fabricated a whole interview about how they went on a quest for band members that held the same ideals. Unlike Vajra, when people confronted them by saying “You’re just stealing,” them saying “Yeah, but that’s like the point???” it worked. Granted, there were plenty of people who weren’t buying this act and loathed the whole idea, but there was more than enough support for it to keep them at the forefront of the scene up until 2015. In fact, it worked so well that their label made it happen AGAIN, but this time with a band that pretended to be The GazettE and another that mixed all different concepts from the eroguro scene and western nü-metal together. This was the first time in visual-kei where blatantly copying on purpose wasn’t met with more backlash than praise.

    Several other acts spawned at the same time, due to a strong desire for “bands that sound like old school groups.” This was in part due to Cell, an offshoot of La’Mule that made somewhat similar music, Lin, a Kisaki band that came after he swore he was retired, and a general sense of boredom from the run-of-the-mill bands that dressed like host boys. Other groups that come to mind include Gauzes (a La’Mule homage-kei group), DEZERT (their first singles were nü-metal interpretations of groups like D’espairsRay and Nega), and AvelCain (who took more influence from groups like Lamiel than their fan base wanted to admit). Suddenly, it was cool to be like someone else.
     



    Eventually, the hype waned a bit. Grieva started writing their own music and then eventually split after being worked to death by their label. It was mostly the same case for AvelCain, Cell went on break because frontman Kon can’t keep focused on one thing, DEZERT found (and then killed) their own style, and most of the other old school sounding bands weren’t big enough to really make a lasting impact. This was the death of homage-kei.


    Or was it???


    Interestingly enough, in recent years, this scene metamorphosed along with the scene at large. We started seeing groups now begin to “take influence from” more recent acts (which I guess are still old if you’re younger than 20??). We had メディーナ (Mediena), who took a lot from Phantasmagoria, ガンミ (Ganmi), which sounded like an early 2000s band without a real influence to pin point, and Mamireta, who tried to restart the subculture in high gear with their refreshing takes on 蜉蝣 (Kagerou)’s music. There are even big acts forming side projects that “sound like a 90’s band!!”, like Diaura(who are not guilt-free themselves, when it comes to Pierrot worship) and ぞんび (Zonbi). Even Gossip-ゴシップ- went from copying The GazettE to emulating their label owner’s old band (albeit at gunpoint (allegedly!)). It is worth noting that another significant change: aside from a few examples, the current trend has become "I want to sound like ___," rather than "guess which ___ songs I combined!!!" Arguably, the style should have started with this mentality, but controversy creates buzz.
     


    Unoriginality in the visual kei scene is nothing new. We even have an entire thread dedicated to specific instances where someone took a riff or theme and matches it to the exact source material it came from. But homage-kei really takes it to the next level. Bands want you to know who they’re sounding like. Could it be for nostalgia sales? Or because recreating a well liked motif makes it easier for someone to like a new creation (they’re already emotionally invested)? Or is it just a lazy cash grab, which requires 40% less effort to produce material? Maybe it is fulfilling a fantasy to reenact what you love about your idols? In spite of how much I adore everything mentioned throughout this article, I would be lying to you if I didn’t say that it is probably a mix of all four.
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    The Moon reacted to Takadanobabaalien in 砂月 -SATSUKI- new album, "REBOOT" release   
    nice i will attend none of them x
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    The Moon got a reaction from nekkichi in 砂月 -SATSUKI- new album, "REBOOT" release   
    queen of the former soviet states when will ur fav literally ever x
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    The Moon reacted to Takadanobabaalien in La'veil Mizeria new single, "死枷" release   
    me when someone complain on kikyos vocals:
     

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    The Moon got a reaction from emmny in ギャロ (THE GALLO) will join 寺子屋 (Terakoya)   
    what
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    The Moon got a reaction from suji in ギャロ (THE GALLO) will join 寺子屋 (Terakoya)   
    what
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    The Moon got a reaction from Tokage in ギャロ (THE GALLO) will join 寺子屋 (Terakoya)   
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    The Moon reacted to cvltic in Kisaki Drama 2k18   
    @platy I thought I explicitly acknowledged this when I brought it up. Let me reiterate that I understand that, and that my point is not that you have to believe in all rumors or believe in no rumors. My point is if you're going to smugtweet about how correct and smart Dir en grey is to have ditched Kisaki you should at least demonstrate a semblance of awareness that the Dir house isn't exactly clean when it comes to allegations even if you don't weigh them the same. (This should probably extend to trying to hold up "vk celeb you like" as moral over "vk celeb you don't like that has been implicated" in general because you don't fucking know them or what they've done anyway.)
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    The Moon got a reaction from ChaoticEnding in ギャロ (THE GALLO) will join 寺子屋 (Terakoya)   
    what
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    The Moon reacted to Peace Heavy mk II in Moi dix Mois presents, "Deep Sanctuary VI ~MALICE MIZER 25th~ Anniversary Special"   
    Each vocalist picked songs that really worked well with their style. I'm surprised at how close to Gackt Hitomi sounded on "Madrigal."
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    The Moon got a reaction from Chikage in Kisaki Drama 2k18   
    this is so fucking disgusting. those pictures are horrifying.
     
    my heart breaks for the child & her mother who got caught up in kisaki's abuse.  i  hope she gets justice.
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    The Moon reacted to nekkichi in DIR EN GREY released their 10th album "The Insulated World" on September 26, 2018   
    what a way to distract us from samples x
  24. OHHHH HOoONEeeY
    The Moon reacted to nekkichi in THE BLACK SWAN will disband   
    why are dir en grey stans always feeling so confident dissing other vocalists while y'all stan this
    ? ? ?
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    The Moon got a reaction from PIZAZ in 浅葱 (ASAGI) (D) new limited-single "妖狐の嫁入り" (Youko no Yomeiri) release   
    such an elaborate lerk for a limited 1-track single??? we stan 
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