anadentone 478 Posted December 28, 2015 ie the Kusomens. Lurking in the Vk world since ye olde days of Malice Mizer, Janna de arc and La'cryma Christi, I've heard one Japanese word getting tossed around (well two but kawaii doesn't really fit the vk title. Oshare maybe.) and that is "kusomen" aka bad bandmates/schitty noodles. I was wondering if anyone knows any kusomens or the "bad" members (not bad bad but maybe just odd/weird/different in some way) I know they said Men-men from Codomo Dragon is/was a kusomen and Sala from BFN (he doesn't seem like a kusomen type tho D: ) was wondering if its true or just something fans toss around to people whose not their bias 1 IGM_Oficial reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takadanobabaalien 3607 Posted December 28, 2015 Ruchi & Yuuga from Devil Kitty are kusomen according to 2ch at least. 1 ghostpepper reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
herpes 1597 Posted December 28, 2015 wataru from 12012, gackt and dai from himitsu kessha confirmed 1 suji reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chi 2624 Posted December 28, 2015 royz kuina & subaru also recently yoshiatsu from dadaroma if u know what happened (he used to have a good reputation though) i second wataru Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
emmny 4139 Posted December 28, 2015 lmao yoshiatsu's baby drama add san (ex-nega, bfn) to the list Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anadentone 478 Posted December 28, 2015 royz kuina & subaru also recently yoshiatsu from dadaroma if u know what happened (he used to have a good reputation though) i second wataru I remember on tumblr people calling them "daddy drama" XD. Whats the joke about Kuina or Saburu? I know people saying "Oh she's acting like Kuina" which is never a good thing. Wataru has replace Kusomen as a bad word XD. As for San- he always looked like he was bored in BFn pics . ver band he's been in has disbanded in a year. D; Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeus 7997 Posted December 28, 2015 I need more details on why these bandomen are bad. Spread the gossip! 3 suji, Chi and Serox reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anadentone 478 Posted December 28, 2015 I need more details on why these bandomen are bad. Spread the gossip! n So many bands disband or someone leaves and the official statement is "Sorry we're just disbanding" I would go on tanuki but google sucks at translating Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chi 2624 Posted December 28, 2015 I need more details on why these bandomen are bad. Spread the gossip! who am I to go against a God's wish? kuina is just well known for groping girls at instores and whispering creepy shit to them whenever someone asks about who is a kusomen in VK, kuina takes the crown 90% of the time subaru has all kinds of shit going against him like randomly messaging girls his dick pics looool and worse stuff but there is not enough proof supporting those so not worth talking dont want to get into yoshiatsu's mess because again i dont think there is enough proof but yeah BABY DRAMA 3 emmny, Zeus and anadentone reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anadentone 478 Posted December 28, 2015 who am I to go against a God's wish? kuina is just well known for groping girls at instores and whispering creepy shit to them whenever someone asks about who is a kusomen in VK, kuina takes the crown 90% of the time subaru has all kinds of shit going against him like randomly messaging girls his dick pics looool and worse stuff but there is not enough proof supporting those so not worth talking dont want to get into yoshiatsu's mess because again i dont think there is enough proof but yeah BABY DRAMA define creepy? Like "hey baby wanna sniff the cockroachs with me?" or " I wanna play you like my guitar" XD I'm curious about san and Sala from bfn now XD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mahoujin 395 Posted December 29, 2015 I don't have any gossip to share here, but just kind of wondering something about kusomen in general. Where would you draw the line between regular band guy stuff (promiscuous with fans, dumb drunk stuff) and going into kusomen territory? When it starts having negative consequences to the band's success? or something else? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lestat 2167 Posted December 29, 2015 I don't have any gossip to share here, but just kind of wondering something about kusomen in general. Where would you draw the line between regular band guy stuff (promiscuous with fans, dumb drunk stuff) and going into kusomen territory? When it starts having negative consequences to the band's success? or something else? In the Visual Kei scene, musicians are already receiving the boot over the smallest of things (i.e. having sex, sharing pictures online, texting with fans, etc.) Those bangya are relentlessly cruel and vicious and are ready to strike down anyone who steps out of that 'dream-like' appearance that these guys must have. They aren't treated as human beings; they are being stalked and harassed and anyone who participates in this kind of obsessive behaviour needs a reality check. I have never been so shocked by a musician's behaviour that I found it necessary to shun them or made attempts to ruin their reputation or lives. They are people — people are faulty and no one is an exception. 6 Daddyroma, Seimeisen, Serox and 3 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chi 2624 Posted December 29, 2015 I don't have any gossip to share here, but just kind of wondering something about kusomen in general. Where would you draw the line between regular band guy stuff (promiscuous with fans, dumb drunk stuff) and going into kusomen territory? When it starts having negative consequences to the band's success? or something else? idk, i see the word thrown around a lot but i was never able to see whats the line that separates those two. seems like these bangya have rules of their own. thats why a lot of these guys avoid fucking around with their fans. depending on what theyve done and how much backlash they receive it might affect the band[but i guess disbandment stuff depends if the company will tolerate it or not...like i said kuina is everyones favorite worst bandoman yet royz are still going]. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mahoujin 395 Posted December 29, 2015 Fucking groupies is basically the norm in any rock music scene, so it's pretty ridiculous that there's so much overwhelming opposition when these band guys, who are btw making themselves as sexually appealing to the women in their audience as possible, are actually fucking the women in their audience. Like maybe I am missing the point, but isn't that kind of the point? I love visual kei, but hell if I'll ever understand it... 4 Aferni, suji, riyusama and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aferni 2381 Posted December 29, 2015 dunno if this can be considered as a kusomen but Sola ex-SUPER BOYS does porn now lmao and apparently Tsuzuku's gf shitted on him...dunno if thats true, could be but idk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shir0 1303 Posted December 29, 2015 Just out of curiosity but where does all this gossip come from? I mean where do they spread it? This is the first time that I hear of anything like the baby drama? 1 Serox reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aferni 2381 Posted December 29, 2015 Just out of curiosity but where does all this gossip come from? I mean where do they spread it? This is the first time that I hear of anything like the baby drama? So apparently Yoshiatsu had sex with some Lolita looking bangya and got her pregnant but refused to give her money for the abortion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sakura8 1 Posted December 29, 2015 In the Visual Kei scene, musicians are already receiving the boot over the smallest of things (i.e. having sex, sharing pictures online, texting with fans, etc.) Those bangya are relentlessly cruel and vicious and are ready to strike down anyone who steps out of that 'dream-like' appearance that these guys must have. They aren't treated as human beings; they are being stalked and harassed and anyone who participates in this kind of obsessive behaviour needs a reality check. I have never been so shocked by a musician's behaviour that I found it necessary to shun them or made attempts to ruin their reputation or lives. They are people — people are faulty and no one is an exception. i am pretty sure that vkei band guys are cruel too and are ready to take advantage of their looks to gain money. so i do not understand why when fans have same attitude with the band guys. you are defending the band guys. they were asking for it.they are trying to gain popularity by being pretty and "dream like" so when this stops of course they are going to loose fans. why should fans be more ethical than the band members. both have the same ethics / morals. if they wanted to not have those kind of fans probably they should try to not gain followers by those methods. 1 1 riyusama and herpes reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lestat 2167 Posted December 29, 2015 i am pretty sure that vkei band guys are cruel too and are ready to take advantage of their looks to gain money. so i do not understand why when fans have same attitude with the band guys. you are defending the band guys. they were asking for it.they are trying to gain popularity by being pretty and "dream like" so when this stops of course they are going to loose fans. why should fans be more ethical than the band members. both have the same ethics / morals. if they wanted to not have those kind of fans probably they should try to not gain followers by those methods. So what you are saying is that once someone loses the image of 'perfection', they deserve to be treated like less than that? I suppose that is what is wrong with this world, it actually does not surprise me that Visual Kei followers (because I cannot call most of them fans) think they have the right to make attempts on someone's personal life. Of course they dress up to gain attention; that is what this whole scene is about. Dragqueens look the way they do because it is a business, circus artists look the way they do because it is a business. Does them removing their makeup or shedding their extreme attire so they can live their personal life after their job call out for an attack? No, it does not. The Visual Kei scene is revolting in where it thinks it needs to make the lives of musicians a living hell. I do not understand what goes on in the minds of Japanese girls (and some Western ones who participate in this nonsense), or what drives them to believe that uncovering every single negative truth about someone who they do not personally know and have no business with, is okay. 7 riyusama, kareta-uta, Euthanasia and 4 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
herpes 1597 Posted December 29, 2015 i am pretty sure that vkei band guys are cruel too and are ready to take advantage of their looks to gain money. so i do not understand why when fans have same attitude with the band guys. you are defending the band guys. they were asking for it.they are trying to gain popularity by being pretty and "dream like" so when this stops of course they are going to loose fans. why should fans be more ethical than the band members. both have the same ethics / morals. if they wanted to not have those kind of fans probably they should try to not gain followers by those methods. preach. people are more than ready to defend their problematic faves and victim blame fans, but musicians are generally the same worldwide, regardless of language and genre. It's a career not a charity service and most are happy to take advantage of their level 6 sakura8, suji, PsychoΔelica and 3 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suji 8317 Posted December 29, 2015 dunno if this can be considered as a kusomen but Sola ex-SUPER BOYS does porn now lmao :000 i wanna see Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aferni 2381 Posted December 29, 2015 :000 i wanna see the images found are pretty nsfw, and i dunno how to do the spoiler post thingie ,but here. Safest image i could find. 1 suji reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anadentone 478 Posted December 29, 2015 sola must be doing gay porn or "whatever is paying the bills" porn 1 Aferni reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aferni 2381 Posted December 29, 2015 Yeah he's doing gay porn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chi 2624 Posted December 29, 2015 just wanna add that the same girls who do this shit also pay these guys monthly to just have sex/go out with them so thats how vk guys get their money other than band merch lol i dont even care tzk's gf may have shitted on him i find the fact that he got banned from tanuki for creating threads about himself even funnier Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
