Lestat 2167 Posted January 17, 2014 Jin has an unique voice, and most VK fans don't seem to like unique voices nowadays. The criticism he receives is ridiculous, really, having read that last entry on his blog back then about how he thought himself to be a horrible vocalist, and that he let his fans down, it was just terrible to know he'd allow himself to be driven that far up the walls by a group of cunts who, instead of appreciating music, can only criticize it. I thought because of that he was the last one to come back with a new band because of how deep people have buried him, but I'm honestly glad he's back because he is an awesome person with great charisma, and a musician with a tremendous insight in music. 4 Nyasagi, hyura, kukew and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nekkichi 6043 Posted January 17, 2014 Jin has an unique voice, and most VK fans don't seem to like unique voices nowadays. I have no idea why you're attempting to defend an overrated no1curr band with a talent absent vocalist by putting other vk fans down. for all good that VK sometimes has to offer, nega brought nothing in this regard. 3 Niku, Sakura Seven and freundin reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeus 7997 Posted January 17, 2014 ITT: people insulting other people that don't share their opinions about a vocalist. MH, I thought we were past this. If you have nothing to post about the band THE BLACK SWAN, don't post. 5 Gaz, Raburr7, Silverhawk33 and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackdoll 907 Posted January 18, 2014 I have no idea why you're attempting to defend an overrated no1curr band with a talent absent vocalist by putting other vk fans down. for all good that VK sometimes has to offer, nega brought nothing in this regard. lmao its not your place, to say nega brought nothing. 1 kukew reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz 1097 Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) as always, nekkichi is trying to piss off people who like something that she doesn't because it's fun to see how weeaboos' arses are burning on fire. anyway, their ohp gives me feeling that it'll be some calm music without growls and vomits. i hope i'm wrong, but we'll see. Edited January 18, 2014 by Champ213 Nice try to get away with a personal attack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bear 1817 Posted January 18, 2014 Jin has an unique voice, and most VK fans don't seem to like unique voices nowadays. Unique vocals isn't equal to good or listenable vocals. Unique vocals can be horrid and unlistenable as well. I don't mind Jin's vocals at all. I'd love for this to be a throwback to old Nega or something, before they decided to swap their bass drums for a typewriter and all that shit and got bad. Something in the lines of early Nega would be very, very welcomed. 1 sai reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Champ213 1858 Posted January 18, 2014 If I see any more personal attacks in this thread, may they be implied at one person or just aimed at a broad group of people, or any attempt to put down people's opinions by ad hominems, I will hand out warnings on the double. Get over yourself people, and accept that not everyone likes the same things you do. My banhammer is yearning for some action after a long period of rest, so be careful. 5 sai, rekzer, Raburr7 and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Bacon 106 Posted January 19, 2014 ^ trash Nega was great and Jin was great. Anyway i was scared he was done with music. time for him to show these kids how its done. Alright, I'll admit that early Nega (around the time of Faded Film) had some pretty cool songs. But Jin has, sadly, never been a good vocalist. Sure, some people will like his style, but if you look at it skill-wise, he's actually pretty damn bad - this is a fact, not an opinion. And instrumentally Nega didn't have that much too offer either. Like I said they had a few cool songs, but nothing out of the ordinary and most of their stuff was just bland (to me, at least). Anyway, I guess I'll check out this band just for old time's sake, but I'm not expecting much tbh. 1 nullmoon reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bear 1817 Posted January 19, 2014 Yes, he's not a very talented vocalist. But so what? You don't have to be very talented at what you do, be it singing, playing the guitar, bass, drums or whatever, as long as you're able to sound good and make good riffs/create good atmosphere, and you can do those things without being a very talented guitarist/bassist/drummer/vocalist. Being talented is so fucking overrated. 3 kukew, Silverhawk33 and nullmoon reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackdoll 907 Posted January 19, 2014 Being talented is so fucking overrated. amen! you can tell he put himself into his singing, he is not one those vocalist who sing cause they are able to or have a good voice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nekkichi 6043 Posted January 19, 2014 Being talented is so fucking overrated. 2 Sakura Seven and Miasma reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karma’s Hat 3107 Posted January 19, 2014 Yes, he's not a very talented vocalist. But so what? You don't have to be very talented at what you do, be it singing, playing the guitar, bass, drums or whatever, as long as you're able to sound good and make good riffs/create good atmosphere, and you can do those things without being a very talented guitarist/bassist/drummer/vocalist. Being talented is so fucking overrated. BUT BUT YOU WILL LOSE YOUR VOICE AND YNGWIE MALMSTEEN AND??!133 UHGHUH All opinions and other junk aside; Jin has this uncanny ability to irritate the unsuspecting listener. I like Jin, I secretly like some Nega as well - but it sure took a long while to get used to Jin's voice. It has a very rough quality to it, as to me it sounds like he is under the weather and very sore in the throat - so much so that is causes him pain to sing at all. While it can certainly be considered one of its appeals, it's also why a lot of people can't get into the stuff he is in at all. So a negative reaction isn't really surprising. I guess I would also maintain that he is not a particularly expressive vocalist ( which seems to be the main pro-argument ) or a good one, but that's neither here nor there. I'm still looking forward to whatever this projects turns out to be. 2 Bear and Seimeisen reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyasagi 259 Posted January 19, 2014 Maybe his voice isn't perfect, but at least it sounds exactly the same live, which means NEGA's songs weren't edited too much to sound better. Some bands have their songs recorded and the vocal is good, but when I see a live video, the vocalist totally can't sing. 1 kukew reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niku 8 Posted January 20, 2014 Being talented is so fucking overrated. Wait, what? I just, like, I seriously just am incapable of even understanding the logic behind this statement... 3 Miasma, nullmoon and Mr Bacon reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeus 7997 Posted January 20, 2014 Wait, what? I just, like, I seriously just am incapable of even understanding the logic behind this statement... Discuss this point in the Nega topic. 1 Niku reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chemicalpictures 1888 Posted January 20, 2014 I find quite entertaining that Jin gets all this hate, but fuckin 90% of VK vocalist sucks major balls and it does not seem to bother people that much... 3 kukew, nullmoon and Ikna reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Augie1995 325 Posted January 21, 2014 *Read all the hate and comments on this topic* Me: ....Woohoo, Jin's back. 2 Gregg_Prince and kukew reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jigsaw9 6783 Posted January 22, 2014 Small twitter update: the band has been recording since yesterday. 1 kukew reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyasagi 259 Posted January 22, 2014 Recording already? That's awesome! I can't wait for some release info, I hope they will upload a sample of their music when they're ready to announce something Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
finnthesubhuman 26 Posted January 22, 2014 I find quite entertaining that Jin gets all this hate, but fuckin 90% of VK vocalist sucks major balls and it does not seem to bother people that much... Insert falsecord-covered-in-distortion artists here. At least Jin's banshee wailing was real. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Magatsu Posted January 24, 2014 woa so many don't like his vocal?!! I think his voice is amazing did fit perfect for NEGA. But I'm looking forward to his new project. I gonna check it out for sure!!~ 1 Gregg_Prince reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madygrain 515 Posted January 24, 2014 If he gets some good instrumentalists around him this time, at least it'll be a good band with a bad vocalist. That's a step up from Nega. I have nothing to add. 1 Mr Bacon reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trombe 22025 Posted February 2, 2014 session "TBS" will perform at アルルカン(arlequin) 祥平(shouhei) birthday live "HEY!HEY!HEY!" at Shibuya REX at 2014/05/11 "TBS" members:Vo.儿-JIN- (ex-NEGA)Gt.樹(itsuki) (ex-オリガミ(origami))Gt.誠(makoto) (ex-ReivieЯ-->Doppler)Ba.RENA (ex-Vior gloire)Dr.希柳(kiryuu) I wonder whether "TBS" stands for "THE BLACK SWAN"... 1 Nyasagi reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tetsu_sama69 1119 Posted February 2, 2014 Very interesting line-up. I wonder if he'll play some strange game of having random members in his session groups until the band is revealed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jigsaw9 6783 Posted February 2, 2014 TBS could totally stand for THE BLACK SWAN yesss... curious to see if they'll announce it at that live. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
