TheBistroButcher666 228 Posted November 5, 2013 All I'm sayin dawg is that some people will out grow certain styles that are no longer flattering on them. Of course some people will age better than others, I did say that right? However those that don't, if they start toning it down and dressing more modestly I just don't hold it against them. Do you want VK to be full of a bunch of Emo Dads? I'm strictly speaking from toning down because of age, not because you got signed to Sony and want to make a bunch of bad pop songs. Otherwise going back to my first point, really honestly if you want to listen to bands that uphold the whole Gothic/Punk lifestyle and subculture then just don't listen to Visual Kei. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Champ213 1858 Posted November 5, 2013 Except Kamijo. By now I am convinced that he will take that gothic-aristocrat-thing to his grave. XDD In all fairness though, most vk bands drop the vk image long before just getting too old. Actually most vk bands disband before they get to the point of dropping vk imagery, lol. I can fully understand though that after a few years of needing more time to prepare your makeup for a concert than actually spending time on stage, you want to tone down your visuals. And, since being in a vk band typically doesn't pay your bills, some people may just drop the pink hair in favor of getting a decent job. XD 2 Komorebi and CAT5 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JukaForever 758 Posted November 5, 2013 Except Kamijo. By now I am convinced that he will take that gothic-aristocrat-thing to his grave. XDD In all fairness though, most vk bands drop the vk image long before just getting too old. Actually most vk bands disband before they get to the point of dropping vk imagery, lol. I can fully understand though that after a few years of needing more time to prepare your makeup for a concert than actually spending time on stage, you want to tone down your visuals. And, since being in a vk band typically doesn't pay your bills, some people may just drop the pink hair in favor of getting a decent job. XD But he is a vampire, he will live forever. Besides, graves are dirty and too confined. 2 hyura and Champ213 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DogManX 179 Posted November 5, 2013 But he is a vampire, he will live forever. Besides, graves are dirty and too confined. Actually he is not a vampire. He is just a human, but he plays a vampire sometimes. Oh I actually know a few visual kei bands which have some "longplayers" in them. Moi Dix Mois or The Piass or anti-feminism for example. Seem to be just fine with their doings although they are in the mids of their 40s already. isn't Yuki from Versailles..ah Jupiter even older than Kamijo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hyura 465 Posted November 5, 2013 XD That might be an unpopular opinion as well but... all I can think is: Older people wearing their alternative clothes even when it's not 'flattering' anymore are awesome! If you wore them because you didn't give a fuck about what others think you should wear them even more when you're old and saggy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coffee000 14 Posted November 6, 2013 XD That might be an unpopular opinion as well but... all I can think is: Older people wearing their alternative clothes even when it's not 'flattering' anymore are awesome! If you wore them because you didn't give a fuck about what others think you should wear them even more when you're old and saggy. Not "emo" dads but I've seen some guys who look old with long (grey) hair, tattoos, etc. "metalhead" looks and clothes. Don't forget they all try to have big muscles (even with sagging skin). I am sure some of them are actually not that old. They only look old and wrinkled (thanks to the harsh sun here). Because I see them from time to time, they are so common and no surprise to me. If you don't mention this, I won't ever think of their existence. It's probably the culture of where I live. Most people don't give a fuck about what they wear at all. Some of them look absolutely terrible, with no sense at all and they don't care. Some of them wear alternative clothing (not always done in a good way) and they don't care either. That applies to people of all ages here. If you think they are awesome, this country is paradise to you. XD Yet again, old metalheads are probably more acceptable by (Western) society since they try to emphasize the "macho" image. Looking terrible and dirty is acceptable too as long as you are "masculine". As to other types that are not that macho or considered masculine (especially on men), I am not sure whether they are as acceptable here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Champ213 1858 Posted November 6, 2013 Well, that's the internet for you. It pretends to be a place of tolerance and personal freedom, but the collective hive of the internet is actually rather small-minded, conformist and reactionary. Either you conform to a very narrow ideal of appearance and conduct - or you're meme material. 6 sai, CAT5, bonsaijodelfisch and 3 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miyuu 40 Posted November 6, 2013 lol i have no idea if this above goes for me too lololol my main problem starts with the condition of your mind and not whether /if you look good or not. usually appearance reveals that. but for all i know you could be the most interesting person in the world and look ridiculous.then look as you want.it doesn't matter.but if you are 50 and still want same things as a 20 year old.or your mind haven't changed since you were 16. call me conformist if you want but this is terrible and for pitymy argument was about change and not about my fashion sense Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lichtlune 915 Posted November 6, 2013 yoshiki is like 50 and he can pull off visual kei or whatever, i think its just if you're ugly then you can't dress in alternative style right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sai 868 Posted November 6, 2013 Tbqh there are plenty of ugly VK guys, but you just don't see that because they wear so many layers of make-up. Also Yoshiki is the result of many botox injections probably so he doesn't count in my book. You don't have to be a model to do VK, the make-up will do it all for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hyura 465 Posted November 6, 2013 Seriously. Nobody here would openly mock a person for showing signs of age, being overweight or simply not having been born good-looking- and think that behaviour is acceptable, right? Then why should it suddenly change when the person in question is wearing nonconformist clothes? Why do you have to be either young, beautiful or famous to wear certain things? I'm not saying I never make fun of other people. Or other peoples clothing style, if they suck at it. It's just that I don't get why there should be something like an ~unwritten rule~ 3 lichtlune, Number Girl and Ikna reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peace Heavy mk II 7200 Posted November 6, 2013 Tbqh there are plenty of ugly VK guys, but you just don't see that because they wear so many layers of make-up. Also Yoshiki is the result of many botox injections probably so he doesn't count in my book. You don't have to be a model to do VK, the make-up will do it all for you. no Sai, ugly and vkei cannot happen at the same time 1 hyura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pandabear 414 Posted November 13, 2013 Unpopular opinion #457 I don’t think Deluhi is/was that great of a band. I don’t get all the hype surrounding their music. I think they had some okay/good songs which I enjoyed, I just don’t get all the praise the band gets, especially on this forum. Is it because they were a fairly decent vk band and the majority of other vk bands were so crappy that they made Deluhi sound amazing by comparison and lead to their music being overhyped? I wouldn’t be surprised if this was the case, which I believe also happened when Mejibary came along. Although Mejibary have been getting better. Anyway, Leda was probably the best part of Deluhi and he definitely raised the bar for other vk guitarists, but I find the band to just be decent. They never put out anything amazing or what I would expect from advanced players/composers to put out. I feel the parts were greater than its sum when it comes to this band. So yeah, I can’t share the OMG Deluhi was so amazing they should get back together mentality. 4 Peace Heavy mk II, CAT5, Niku and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CAT5 9075 Posted July 30, 2014 LOSTAGE are hella undderrated and don't get the attention they deserve from J-rock fans abroad. 2 Original Saku and sai reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beni 2149 Posted September 15, 2014 I remember wanting to reply to this thread after reading it a couple of times, and I now know what I have to say with my unpopular opinion, since I had typed up one of them similar in another thread. (Hoping replying to a none-lit thread is okay..) So the first is, I guess, liking Yohio and Seremedy. I've read a lot of responses and opinions on them, but I can't help but enjoy the music and vocals even if they're a foreign music act. The other one I can think of right now is liking vocalists who aren't exactly skilled in singing at all (for example, Tokami's Agato and singer Kana), actually preferring them over a lot of the more experienced/recognised artists. I know it's about personal taste, but I suspected fans/listeners would prefer a vocalist who could hit notes and be listenable the majority of the time. xD 1 Thedane reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seimeisen 4406 Posted September 15, 2014 I don't really care about 凛, especially their new "second era" or whatever it's called. I heard the previews for everything they've put out this year, and none of it has captured my interest. However, I haven't deleted any of the UNDER CODE era stuff that's on my computer, and I'm still willing to give it a chance. I've heard Independent MAZE a few times, and there are some really good songs there, but apart from that, there's nothing mind blowing in their discography, and not a whole lot that can keep my interest. ... There, I said it. Also, the only stuff I really liked from GALEYD were their instrumental tracks (such as the op songs from the 2012 singles). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nullmoon 784 Posted September 15, 2014 Also, the only stuff I really liked from GALEYD were their instrumental tracks (such as the op songs from the 2012 singles). Agreed! I love Precious Heart and the op songs but the rest are sooooooo booooooring! 1 Seimeisen reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bear 1817 Posted September 16, 2014 The visual kei power metal scene went to shit in the early/mid 90's, and since the release of X-Japan's Art of Life I can't think of a single good release as far as visual kei power metal goes. I obviousy haven't heard them all, but you've got bands such as Jupiter, Kamijo, Versailles, Hizaki Grace Project, Megaromania, Ruzia, Aldious and Candy Drugers and they're all so fucking bad. It's a shame no one's going for the sound X Japan went for with Vanishing Vision and, to some degree at least, Blue Blood. That mix of semi-raw speed metal and power metal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jigsaw9 6783 Posted September 16, 2014 ^ SEX VIRGIN KILLER are a bit like that (tho kinda weak in the vocals department xD): But yeah, haven't heard many decent bearable heavy/power stuff, excluding some X songs and maybe a few Versailles tracks (speaking of the vk scene of course). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bear 1817 Posted September 16, 2014 Yeah, I know, and I actually thought about mentioning them as the only decent band I could think of. But the vocals are pretty annoying so I decided not too. But musically they're often spot on with their thrashy power/speed metal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nullmoon 784 Posted September 16, 2014 Vanishing Vision is so bad XD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bear 1817 Posted September 16, 2014 No, it is not. Speed/power metal done right. Raw, badass and full of energy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
relentless 254 Posted September 16, 2014 Kyo is a mediocre vocalist with constantly poor execution. 5 blackdoll, CAT5, evilcoconut and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beni 2149 Posted September 16, 2014 ^ I was going to reply with a sarcastic comment but then I thought, better not, since I don't want it to come off as being rude when it's just a joke. >< Anyway, I'll post another 'unpopular opinion,' which, I'm guessing is unpopular, seeing as how popular these artists are. I listen to them sometimes, but I can't understand why/how they're so popular or famous; X Japan and Miyavi (and a couple of other populars but I don't want to be a hater xD). I know, I know, preferences and personal tastes, and seeing as how they were such influencial music acts.. it's just, yeah, I don't know, I guess I can't get into them as much as others. I bought What's My Name by Miyavi and it's the only album I've regretted getting.. >.< Just because of his vocals I mean, and I know I say I always love a vocalist who isn't that great at singing but I just couldn't enjoy the album for some reason, apart from the instrumental parts (he is a fabulous guitarist, no doubt about that!).. On another note, Yoshiki definitely isn't helping me fall for X Japan haha. xD I should give them another listen actually, probably change my mind if I listen a lot more and to their classics.. Too much hating from me at the moment, sorry sorry, shutting up Scratch out all that bs!! I knew I'm always wrong. xD Already like his indies work, why'd he change style so much? Again, so much learning I'm in for. Ignore any more posts from me lol. Loads of old works by musicians I must listen to now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeus 7997 Posted September 16, 2014 I listen to them sometimes, but I can't understand why/how they're so popular or famous; X Japan and Miyavi (and a couple of other populars but I don't want to be a hater xD)...I bought What's My Name by Miyavi and it's the only album I've regretted getting.. >.<[/i] That's your problem. Go listen to a better album and then you'll see what fans saw in him a few years ago. I suggest Miyaviuta~Dokusou~, Galyuu, or even Miyavizm. 2 beni and kyoselflove reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites