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    WhirlingBlack got a reaction from reminiscing2004 in Do Japanese men dislike visual kei?   
    I think that this situation sort of showcases the discrepancy between the western and Japanese fandom, in some ways. We in the west have sort of built up our own subculture surrounding VK that isn't the same as it is in Japan. In Japan, attending VK lives can have connotations that a lot of guys would want to avoid, the informal rules surrounding the lives can also make the shows less enjoyable to men too, as in the whole staying put in your spot, allowing time and space for the girls to fix their hair between each headbang and stuff like that. The western VK fandom treats it more like any other alternative subculture whereas I feel like in Japan it has unhealthy connections with the host ideals. 
     
    I went to a VK bar in Tokyo and talked to the bartender and he said that the regular girls scared away other customers on the weekends by refusing to let him serve others, since they "paid for his company" by buying drinks, and they would demand from him to play only the one band they listen to the entire night.
    I think for a lot of guys who are into VK, most Japanese men who are into VK are CD-only by the way, as in they don't attend the shows but just buy the music from stores and might occasionally show up to onemans and stand in the back, this doesn't create a fun atmosphere since they would prefer to just hang about and talk shit about music and listen to a dozen different bands. 
     
    I realize that the bangya culture is what keeps the bands afloat, but I think it's also this culture that sort of kills the fun for a lot of guys who enjoy the music and enjoy the scene aesthetically but isn't just invested in one band and wants to enjoy some host fantasy with them. And this is why guys have a larger part in the western fandom because ours really isn't connected much to the Japanese one beyond listening to the same bands.
     
    To be fair though, quite a few bands try to remedy this by doing those male only shows, and I think that's an awesome thing, although I wish it weren't necessary.
     
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    WhirlingBlack got a reaction from r... in Do Japanese men dislike visual kei?   
    I don't think it's a clear cut division as much as it's a generalization to make the point easier. There's plenty of bangya who are into many bands and have a wide knowledge of the scene, and there are plenty of guys who go to the lives and enjoy them despite not always feeling like circumstances are ideal (I've attended upwards of 100 VK shows, for example.) 
     
    It's just that the majority fall into the stereotypes, whether it's self-imposed or formed by the strong consensus culture of Japan I don't know, but once something gets viewed in the public eye as being geared towards a specific audience, the threshold to dare to break that mold gets much higher, especially in a country like Japan where this is strongly discouraged in general.

    In an ideal world people wouldn't care, like you say, but we all know that's not how group psychology works.
     
    Also, I think it's pretty normal that people who invest a lot of time and money into something, whether accidentally or not, look down on those who settle for less, but fandom elitism is another topic and far from exclusive to the guys either - it goes both ways, it's just that both groups measure dedication by different scales. I know bangya who look down on girls who attend lives of other bands, for example, because it's seen as "treason" towards their main act. Or look down on the fanboys for not supporting the bands at shows more. Just like I know guys who look down on those who don't know and love that one band that was around for three weeks in '93. It's problematic for sure but I think delving deeper into it is taking the thread off topic?
     
    If people want to make another thread to discuss the toxic elements of bangya culture or fandom elitism, I'd be all for it, and I think it'd be interesting topics to discuss in a wider sense, but let's try to keep it relevant to the topic of male fans in the VK scene here.
     
    @KomorebiI think it's pretty easy to spot when someone actually cares about the music and when someone is only there to drool at the band. All it takes is a short conversation on the topic of the bands music. And it's not mutually exclusive at all. I have plenty of female friends who can do both, and as long as I can participate in the discussions about the music and they keep the discussions about the bandmens physique with ones that are interested, I'm all good.
     
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    WhirlingBlack got a reaction from plastic_rainbow in Do Japanese men dislike visual kei?   
    I think that this situation sort of showcases the discrepancy between the western and Japanese fandom, in some ways. We in the west have sort of built up our own subculture surrounding VK that isn't the same as it is in Japan. In Japan, attending VK lives can have connotations that a lot of guys would want to avoid, the informal rules surrounding the lives can also make the shows less enjoyable to men too, as in the whole staying put in your spot, allowing time and space for the girls to fix their hair between each headbang and stuff like that. The western VK fandom treats it more like any other alternative subculture whereas I feel like in Japan it has unhealthy connections with the host ideals. 
     
    I went to a VK bar in Tokyo and talked to the bartender and he said that the regular girls scared away other customers on the weekends by refusing to let him serve others, since they "paid for his company" by buying drinks, and they would demand from him to play only the one band they listen to the entire night.
    I think for a lot of guys who are into VK, most Japanese men who are into VK are CD-only by the way, as in they don't attend the shows but just buy the music from stores and might occasionally show up to onemans and stand in the back, this doesn't create a fun atmosphere since they would prefer to just hang about and talk shit about music and listen to a dozen different bands. 
     
    I realize that the bangya culture is what keeps the bands afloat, but I think it's also this culture that sort of kills the fun for a lot of guys who enjoy the music and enjoy the scene aesthetically but isn't just invested in one band and wants to enjoy some host fantasy with them. And this is why guys have a larger part in the western fandom because ours really isn't connected much to the Japanese one beyond listening to the same bands.
     
    To be fair though, quite a few bands try to remedy this by doing those male only shows, and I think that's an awesome thing, although I wish it weren't necessary.
     
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    WhirlingBlack got a reaction from r... in Do Japanese men dislike visual kei?   
    I think that this situation sort of showcases the discrepancy between the western and Japanese fandom, in some ways. We in the west have sort of built up our own subculture surrounding VK that isn't the same as it is in Japan. In Japan, attending VK lives can have connotations that a lot of guys would want to avoid, the informal rules surrounding the lives can also make the shows less enjoyable to men too, as in the whole staying put in your spot, allowing time and space for the girls to fix their hair between each headbang and stuff like that. The western VK fandom treats it more like any other alternative subculture whereas I feel like in Japan it has unhealthy connections with the host ideals. 
     
    I went to a VK bar in Tokyo and talked to the bartender and he said that the regular girls scared away other customers on the weekends by refusing to let him serve others, since they "paid for his company" by buying drinks, and they would demand from him to play only the one band they listen to the entire night.
    I think for a lot of guys who are into VK, most Japanese men who are into VK are CD-only by the way, as in they don't attend the shows but just buy the music from stores and might occasionally show up to onemans and stand in the back, this doesn't create a fun atmosphere since they would prefer to just hang about and talk shit about music and listen to a dozen different bands. 
     
    I realize that the bangya culture is what keeps the bands afloat, but I think it's also this culture that sort of kills the fun for a lot of guys who enjoy the music and enjoy the scene aesthetically but isn't just invested in one band and wants to enjoy some host fantasy with them. And this is why guys have a larger part in the western fandom because ours really isn't connected much to the Japanese one beyond listening to the same bands.
     
    To be fair though, quite a few bands try to remedy this by doing those male only shows, and I think that's an awesome thing, although I wish it weren't necessary.
     
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    WhirlingBlack got a reaction from Zeus in Do Japanese men dislike visual kei?   
    I think that this situation sort of showcases the discrepancy between the western and Japanese fandom, in some ways. We in the west have sort of built up our own subculture surrounding VK that isn't the same as it is in Japan. In Japan, attending VK lives can have connotations that a lot of guys would want to avoid, the informal rules surrounding the lives can also make the shows less enjoyable to men too, as in the whole staying put in your spot, allowing time and space for the girls to fix their hair between each headbang and stuff like that. The western VK fandom treats it more like any other alternative subculture whereas I feel like in Japan it has unhealthy connections with the host ideals. 
     
    I went to a VK bar in Tokyo and talked to the bartender and he said that the regular girls scared away other customers on the weekends by refusing to let him serve others, since they "paid for his company" by buying drinks, and they would demand from him to play only the one band they listen to the entire night.
    I think for a lot of guys who are into VK, most Japanese men who are into VK are CD-only by the way, as in they don't attend the shows but just buy the music from stores and might occasionally show up to onemans and stand in the back, this doesn't create a fun atmosphere since they would prefer to just hang about and talk shit about music and listen to a dozen different bands. 
     
    I realize that the bangya culture is what keeps the bands afloat, but I think it's also this culture that sort of kills the fun for a lot of guys who enjoy the music and enjoy the scene aesthetically but isn't just invested in one band and wants to enjoy some host fantasy with them. And this is why guys have a larger part in the western fandom because ours really isn't connected much to the Japanese one beyond listening to the same bands.
     
    To be fair though, quite a few bands try to remedy this by doing those male only shows, and I think that's an awesome thing, although I wish it weren't necessary.
     
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    WhirlingBlack got a reaction from zaa_zaa in Do Japanese men dislike visual kei?   
    I think that this situation sort of showcases the discrepancy between the western and Japanese fandom, in some ways. We in the west have sort of built up our own subculture surrounding VK that isn't the same as it is in Japan. In Japan, attending VK lives can have connotations that a lot of guys would want to avoid, the informal rules surrounding the lives can also make the shows less enjoyable to men too, as in the whole staying put in your spot, allowing time and space for the girls to fix their hair between each headbang and stuff like that. The western VK fandom treats it more like any other alternative subculture whereas I feel like in Japan it has unhealthy connections with the host ideals. 
     
    I went to a VK bar in Tokyo and talked to the bartender and he said that the regular girls scared away other customers on the weekends by refusing to let him serve others, since they "paid for his company" by buying drinks, and they would demand from him to play only the one band they listen to the entire night.
    I think for a lot of guys who are into VK, most Japanese men who are into VK are CD-only by the way, as in they don't attend the shows but just buy the music from stores and might occasionally show up to onemans and stand in the back, this doesn't create a fun atmosphere since they would prefer to just hang about and talk shit about music and listen to a dozen different bands. 
     
    I realize that the bangya culture is what keeps the bands afloat, but I think it's also this culture that sort of kills the fun for a lot of guys who enjoy the music and enjoy the scene aesthetically but isn't just invested in one band and wants to enjoy some host fantasy with them. And this is why guys have a larger part in the western fandom because ours really isn't connected much to the Japanese one beyond listening to the same bands.
     
    To be fair though, quite a few bands try to remedy this by doing those male only shows, and I think that's an awesome thing, although I wish it weren't necessary.
     
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    WhirlingBlack got a reaction from platy in Do Japanese men dislike visual kei?   
    I think that this situation sort of showcases the discrepancy between the western and Japanese fandom, in some ways. We in the west have sort of built up our own subculture surrounding VK that isn't the same as it is in Japan. In Japan, attending VK lives can have connotations that a lot of guys would want to avoid, the informal rules surrounding the lives can also make the shows less enjoyable to men too, as in the whole staying put in your spot, allowing time and space for the girls to fix their hair between each headbang and stuff like that. The western VK fandom treats it more like any other alternative subculture whereas I feel like in Japan it has unhealthy connections with the host ideals. 
     
    I went to a VK bar in Tokyo and talked to the bartender and he said that the regular girls scared away other customers on the weekends by refusing to let him serve others, since they "paid for his company" by buying drinks, and they would demand from him to play only the one band they listen to the entire night.
    I think for a lot of guys who are into VK, most Japanese men who are into VK are CD-only by the way, as in they don't attend the shows but just buy the music from stores and might occasionally show up to onemans and stand in the back, this doesn't create a fun atmosphere since they would prefer to just hang about and talk shit about music and listen to a dozen different bands. 
     
    I realize that the bangya culture is what keeps the bands afloat, but I think it's also this culture that sort of kills the fun for a lot of guys who enjoy the music and enjoy the scene aesthetically but isn't just invested in one band and wants to enjoy some host fantasy with them. And this is why guys have a larger part in the western fandom because ours really isn't connected much to the Japanese one beyond listening to the same bands.
     
    To be fair though, quite a few bands try to remedy this by doing those male only shows, and I think that's an awesome thing, although I wish it weren't necessary.
     
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    WhirlingBlack got a reaction from saishuu in DIR EN GREY - TOUR16-17 FROM DEPRESSION TO ________   
    I'm pretty sure that foreign fanbase is an afterthought at best. 
     
    That said though, I attended the entire tour and didn't see one single of the many Chinese people present break out in tears, rip their Dir shirts to shreds or try to suicide bomb the venue. I didn't see a single overtly supremacist statement or controversial point beyond a very mainstream "free tibet" deal which makes sense based on their Buddhist backgrounds. It's about as dangerous and edgy as wanting to free Syria from ISIS.  I think it's safe to say these "problems" mostly exist in your head, and to be frank you present them in such a convoluted way that I think most people aren't even sure of what you're trying to say.
     
    Let that be an end to this for now, we don't need any "Dir en grey are supremacists" discussions based on hearsay.
     
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    WhirlingBlack got a reaction from Laurence02 in [VK Nightclub] Klubb Lunacy   
    By the way, for anyone who might be curious, this was the playlist of the night!
     
    Klubb Lunacy 1/9 Grand Revival 「† Return of Visual "Monster" †」 Setlist

    Klubb Lunacy 21:00 - 22:30

    ROUAGE - めざめのうたげ (Mesame no Utage) | 1994
    emmuree - グロセックス (Gurosex) | 2000
    deadman - Blood | 2001
    Baiser - Dye | 1995
    D≒SIRE - JESUS? | 1995
    Madeth gray'll - 狂死曲 (Kyoushikyoku) | 1999
    Dir en grey - Ash | 1998
    Sleep my Dear - Flowers | 1997
    sukekiyo - 黝いヒステリア (Aoguroi Hysteria) | 2017
    Girugamesh - Decieved Mad Pain | 2005
    lynch. - unknown lost a beauty | 2005
    Versailles - The Red Carpet Day | 2007
    摩天楼オペラ (Matenrou Opera) - honey drop | 2007
    LUNA SEA - ROSIER | 1994
    BUCK-TICK - スピード (Speed) | 1991
    Dir en grey - Unknown...Despair...a Lost | 1998
    Rentrer en Soi - PROTOPLASM | 2007
    MUCC - ファズ (Fuzz) | 2007
    Plastic Tree - Ghost | 2005
    Malice Mizer - 月下の夜想曲 (Gekka no Yasoukyoku) | 1998
    D'espairsRay - Garnet | 2003

    -DJ Dispo set- 22:30 - 00:00 (order might not be 100% accurate)

    DADAROMA - リズリーサーカス (Risley Circus) | 2016
    NOCTURNAL BLOODLUST - Strike in fact | 2014
    SCAPEGOAT - 眠れない僕の趣味 (Nemurenai Boku no Shumi) | 2015
    0.1gの誤算 (0.1g no Gosan) - 溺愛ヤンデレボーイ (Dekiai Yandereboi) | 2017
    Lycaon – 残酷のサロメ (Zankoku no Salome) | 2013
    アルルカン (Arlequin) - 像 (Zou) | 2014
    ゴシップ (Gossip) - R-18 | 2015
    蜉蝣 (Kagerou) - XII Dizzy | 2004
    黒夢 (Kuroyume) - 親愛なるDEATH MASK (Shinainaru DEATH MASK) | 1993
    AvelCain - PSYCHO -サイコ- | 2014
    Mejibray - Sadisgate | 2012
    Dir en grey - 脈 (Myaku) | 2000
    蜉蝣 (Kagerou) - 根暗高速子守唄 (Nekura Housoku Komoriuta) | 2003
    黒百合と影 (kuroyuri to kage) - 「便所2」 (benjo 2) | 2016
    DEZERT - 「胃潰瘍とルソーの錯覚。」 (Ikaiyou to Rousseau no Sakkaku) | 2014
    D'espairsRay - 「タトエバ」キミ...ガ...シンダ...ラ ([Tatoeba]Kimi...ga...Shinda..ra) | 2002
    MUCC - 我、在ルベキ場所 (Ware, Arubeki Basho) | 2003
    The Gazette - Beautiful 5 [shit]ers | 2003
    グリーヴァ (Grieva) - 幻影Syndrome (Genei Syndrome) | 2016
    Phantasmagoria - NEO ARK | 2005
    phobia - 「Ⅵ」ײ section | 2000
    Due' le quartz - 自殺願望 (Jisatsu Ganbou) | 2000
    Penicillin - Blue Moon | 1996
    Buck-Tick - … in heaven … | 1988

    Klubb Lunacy 00:00 - 03:00

    DENTAKU - エフエルアウトライン (FL Outline) *Background music while announcing outfit competition winner.* 
    X Japan - 紅 (Kurenai) | 1989
    Dir en grey - GAUZE MEDLEY (Schwein no Isu -> Tsumi to Batsu -> 304 Goushitsu, Hakushi no Sakura -> Yurameki -> Yokan -> MASK -> ZAN) | 1999
    Gackt - Vanilla | 2000
    An Cafe - Smile Ichiban Ii Onna | 2006
    ゴールデンボンバー (Golden Bomber) - Dance My Generation | 2013
    Girugamesh - evolution | 2008
    cali≠gari - マグロ (Maguro) | 2001
    deadman - follow the night light | 2005
    D'espairsRay - MIRROR | 2007
    MUCC - 大嫌い (Daikirai) | 2002
    Dir en grey - CLEVER SLEAZOID | 2005
    Girugamesh - Shining | 2007
    The GazettE - HEADACHE MAN | 2009
    NOCTURNAL BLOODLUST - DESPERATE | 2014
    DADAROMA - 溺れる魚 (Oboreru Sakana) | 2014
    MEJIBRAY - DECADANCE - Counting Goats … if I can't be yours - | 2013
    Malice Mizer - Beast of Blood | 2001
    Versailles - Zombie | 2008
    Dir en grey - 鱗 (Uroko) |2014
    X Japan - X | 1989
    Luna Sea - SHADE | 1991
    黒夢 (Kuroyume) - JESUS | 1993
    La'Mule - ナイフ (Knife) | 2000
    hide - Rocket Dive | 1998
    LAREINE - 冬東京 (Fuyuu Tokyo) | 2000
    D'espairsRay - "forbidden" | 2005
    Dir en grey - OBSCURE | 2003
    UnsraW - -9- | 2006
    Maximum the Hormone - 絶望ビリー (Zetsubou Billy) | 2007
    The Gazette - Ruder | 2005
    Girugamesh - 終わりと未来 (Owari to Mirai) | 2006
    蜉蝣 (Kagerou) - 絶望にサヨナラ (Zetsubou ni Sayonara) | 2005
    MUCC - 絶望 (Zetsubou) | 2002
    D'espairsRay - in vain | 2005
    Dir en grey - raison detre | 1999
    Malice Mizer - illuminati | 1998
    Malice Mizer - 月下の夜想曲 (Gekka no Yasoukyoku) | 1998
    Gackt - Vanilla | 2000
    The GazettE - Filth in the beauty | 2006
    Dir en grey - THE FINAL | 2004

    To be continued in Lunacy vol.2... †††
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    WhirlingBlack got a reaction from Tokage in Entry Level Raccoon Albums   
    Some of that info is incorrect: SKY HIGH is actually a cover of a 1970s band called Jigsaw. 
     
     
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    WhirlingBlack got a reaction from Jigsaw9 in [VK Nightclub] Klubb Lunacy   
    By the way, for anyone who might be curious, this was the playlist of the night!
     
    Klubb Lunacy 1/9 Grand Revival 「† Return of Visual "Monster" †」 Setlist

    Klubb Lunacy 21:00 - 22:30

    ROUAGE - めざめのうたげ (Mesame no Utage) | 1994
    emmuree - グロセックス (Gurosex) | 2000
    deadman - Blood | 2001
    Baiser - Dye | 1995
    D≒SIRE - JESUS? | 1995
    Madeth gray'll - 狂死曲 (Kyoushikyoku) | 1999
    Dir en grey - Ash | 1998
    Sleep my Dear - Flowers | 1997
    sukekiyo - 黝いヒステリア (Aoguroi Hysteria) | 2017
    Girugamesh - Decieved Mad Pain | 2005
    lynch. - unknown lost a beauty | 2005
    Versailles - The Red Carpet Day | 2007
    摩天楼オペラ (Matenrou Opera) - honey drop | 2007
    LUNA SEA - ROSIER | 1994
    BUCK-TICK - スピード (Speed) | 1991
    Dir en grey - Unknown...Despair...a Lost | 1998
    Rentrer en Soi - PROTOPLASM | 2007
    MUCC - ファズ (Fuzz) | 2007
    Plastic Tree - Ghost | 2005
    Malice Mizer - 月下の夜想曲 (Gekka no Yasoukyoku) | 1998
    D'espairsRay - Garnet | 2003

    -DJ Dispo set- 22:30 - 00:00 (order might not be 100% accurate)

    DADAROMA - リズリーサーカス (Risley Circus) | 2016
    NOCTURNAL BLOODLUST - Strike in fact | 2014
    SCAPEGOAT - 眠れない僕の趣味 (Nemurenai Boku no Shumi) | 2015
    0.1gの誤算 (0.1g no Gosan) - 溺愛ヤンデレボーイ (Dekiai Yandereboi) | 2017
    Lycaon – 残酷のサロメ (Zankoku no Salome) | 2013
    アルルカン (Arlequin) - 像 (Zou) | 2014
    ゴシップ (Gossip) - R-18 | 2015
    蜉蝣 (Kagerou) - XII Dizzy | 2004
    黒夢 (Kuroyume) - 親愛なるDEATH MASK (Shinainaru DEATH MASK) | 1993
    AvelCain - PSYCHO -サイコ- | 2014
    Mejibray - Sadisgate | 2012
    Dir en grey - 脈 (Myaku) | 2000
    蜉蝣 (Kagerou) - 根暗高速子守唄 (Nekura Housoku Komoriuta) | 2003
    黒百合と影 (kuroyuri to kage) - 「便所2」 (benjo 2) | 2016
    DEZERT - 「胃潰瘍とルソーの錯覚。」 (Ikaiyou to Rousseau no Sakkaku) | 2014
    D'espairsRay - 「タトエバ」キミ...ガ...シンダ...ラ ([Tatoeba]Kimi...ga...Shinda..ra) | 2002
    MUCC - 我、在ルベキ場所 (Ware, Arubeki Basho) | 2003
    The Gazette - Beautiful 5 [shit]ers | 2003
    グリーヴァ (Grieva) - 幻影Syndrome (Genei Syndrome) | 2016
    Phantasmagoria - NEO ARK | 2005
    phobia - 「Ⅵ」ײ section | 2000
    Due' le quartz - 自殺願望 (Jisatsu Ganbou) | 2000
    Penicillin - Blue Moon | 1996
    Buck-Tick - … in heaven … | 1988

    Klubb Lunacy 00:00 - 03:00

    DENTAKU - エフエルアウトライン (FL Outline) *Background music while announcing outfit competition winner.* 
    X Japan - 紅 (Kurenai) | 1989
    Dir en grey - GAUZE MEDLEY (Schwein no Isu -> Tsumi to Batsu -> 304 Goushitsu, Hakushi no Sakura -> Yurameki -> Yokan -> MASK -> ZAN) | 1999
    Gackt - Vanilla | 2000
    An Cafe - Smile Ichiban Ii Onna | 2006
    ゴールデンボンバー (Golden Bomber) - Dance My Generation | 2013
    Girugamesh - evolution | 2008
    cali≠gari - マグロ (Maguro) | 2001
    deadman - follow the night light | 2005
    D'espairsRay - MIRROR | 2007
    MUCC - 大嫌い (Daikirai) | 2002
    Dir en grey - CLEVER SLEAZOID | 2005
    Girugamesh - Shining | 2007
    The GazettE - HEADACHE MAN | 2009
    NOCTURNAL BLOODLUST - DESPERATE | 2014
    DADAROMA - 溺れる魚 (Oboreru Sakana) | 2014
    MEJIBRAY - DECADANCE - Counting Goats … if I can't be yours - | 2013
    Malice Mizer - Beast of Blood | 2001
    Versailles - Zombie | 2008
    Dir en grey - 鱗 (Uroko) |2014
    X Japan - X | 1989
    Luna Sea - SHADE | 1991
    黒夢 (Kuroyume) - JESUS | 1993
    La'Mule - ナイフ (Knife) | 2000
    hide - Rocket Dive | 1998
    LAREINE - 冬東京 (Fuyuu Tokyo) | 2000
    D'espairsRay - "forbidden" | 2005
    Dir en grey - OBSCURE | 2003
    UnsraW - -9- | 2006
    Maximum the Hormone - 絶望ビリー (Zetsubou Billy) | 2007
    The Gazette - Ruder | 2005
    Girugamesh - 終わりと未来 (Owari to Mirai) | 2006
    蜉蝣 (Kagerou) - 絶望にサヨナラ (Zetsubou ni Sayonara) | 2005
    MUCC - 絶望 (Zetsubou) | 2002
    D'espairsRay - in vain | 2005
    Dir en grey - raison detre | 1999
    Malice Mizer - illuminati | 1998
    Malice Mizer - 月下の夜想曲 (Gekka no Yasoukyoku) | 1998
    Gackt - Vanilla | 2000
    The GazettE - Filth in the beauty | 2006
    Dir en grey - THE FINAL | 2004

    To be continued in Lunacy vol.2... †††
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    WhirlingBlack got a reaction from clow_eriol in X Japan new album scheduled for 30th of TBD   
    I'm meeting Yoshiki for a Q&A session on the 19th of October, if there aren't any news by that point on the album I'll just ask him for a release date.
    My best guess is that he'll immediately cancel the Q&A and have his guards escort me off the premises. 
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    WhirlingBlack got a reaction from suji in [VK Nightclub] Klubb Lunacy   
    By the way, for anyone who might be curious, this was the playlist of the night!
     
    Klubb Lunacy 1/9 Grand Revival 「† Return of Visual "Monster" †」 Setlist

    Klubb Lunacy 21:00 - 22:30

    ROUAGE - めざめのうたげ (Mesame no Utage) | 1994
    emmuree - グロセックス (Gurosex) | 2000
    deadman - Blood | 2001
    Baiser - Dye | 1995
    D≒SIRE - JESUS? | 1995
    Madeth gray'll - 狂死曲 (Kyoushikyoku) | 1999
    Dir en grey - Ash | 1998
    Sleep my Dear - Flowers | 1997
    sukekiyo - 黝いヒステリア (Aoguroi Hysteria) | 2017
    Girugamesh - Decieved Mad Pain | 2005
    lynch. - unknown lost a beauty | 2005
    Versailles - The Red Carpet Day | 2007
    摩天楼オペラ (Matenrou Opera) - honey drop | 2007
    LUNA SEA - ROSIER | 1994
    BUCK-TICK - スピード (Speed) | 1991
    Dir en grey - Unknown...Despair...a Lost | 1998
    Rentrer en Soi - PROTOPLASM | 2007
    MUCC - ファズ (Fuzz) | 2007
    Plastic Tree - Ghost | 2005
    Malice Mizer - 月下の夜想曲 (Gekka no Yasoukyoku) | 1998
    D'espairsRay - Garnet | 2003

    -DJ Dispo set- 22:30 - 00:00 (order might not be 100% accurate)

    DADAROMA - リズリーサーカス (Risley Circus) | 2016
    NOCTURNAL BLOODLUST - Strike in fact | 2014
    SCAPEGOAT - 眠れない僕の趣味 (Nemurenai Boku no Shumi) | 2015
    0.1gの誤算 (0.1g no Gosan) - 溺愛ヤンデレボーイ (Dekiai Yandereboi) | 2017
    Lycaon – 残酷のサロメ (Zankoku no Salome) | 2013
    アルルカン (Arlequin) - 像 (Zou) | 2014
    ゴシップ (Gossip) - R-18 | 2015
    蜉蝣 (Kagerou) - XII Dizzy | 2004
    黒夢 (Kuroyume) - 親愛なるDEATH MASK (Shinainaru DEATH MASK) | 1993
    AvelCain - PSYCHO -サイコ- | 2014
    Mejibray - Sadisgate | 2012
    Dir en grey - 脈 (Myaku) | 2000
    蜉蝣 (Kagerou) - 根暗高速子守唄 (Nekura Housoku Komoriuta) | 2003
    黒百合と影 (kuroyuri to kage) - 「便所2」 (benjo 2) | 2016
    DEZERT - 「胃潰瘍とルソーの錯覚。」 (Ikaiyou to Rousseau no Sakkaku) | 2014
    D'espairsRay - 「タトエバ」キミ...ガ...シンダ...ラ ([Tatoeba]Kimi...ga...Shinda..ra) | 2002
    MUCC - 我、在ルベキ場所 (Ware, Arubeki Basho) | 2003
    The Gazette - Beautiful 5 [shit]ers | 2003
    グリーヴァ (Grieva) - 幻影Syndrome (Genei Syndrome) | 2016
    Phantasmagoria - NEO ARK | 2005
    phobia - 「Ⅵ」ײ section | 2000
    Due' le quartz - 自殺願望 (Jisatsu Ganbou) | 2000
    Penicillin - Blue Moon | 1996
    Buck-Tick - … in heaven … | 1988

    Klubb Lunacy 00:00 - 03:00

    DENTAKU - エフエルアウトライン (FL Outline) *Background music while announcing outfit competition winner.* 
    X Japan - 紅 (Kurenai) | 1989
    Dir en grey - GAUZE MEDLEY (Schwein no Isu -> Tsumi to Batsu -> 304 Goushitsu, Hakushi no Sakura -> Yurameki -> Yokan -> MASK -> ZAN) | 1999
    Gackt - Vanilla | 2000
    An Cafe - Smile Ichiban Ii Onna | 2006
    ゴールデンボンバー (Golden Bomber) - Dance My Generation | 2013
    Girugamesh - evolution | 2008
    cali≠gari - マグロ (Maguro) | 2001
    deadman - follow the night light | 2005
    D'espairsRay - MIRROR | 2007
    MUCC - 大嫌い (Daikirai) | 2002
    Dir en grey - CLEVER SLEAZOID | 2005
    Girugamesh - Shining | 2007
    The GazettE - HEADACHE MAN | 2009
    NOCTURNAL BLOODLUST - DESPERATE | 2014
    DADAROMA - 溺れる魚 (Oboreru Sakana) | 2014
    MEJIBRAY - DECADANCE - Counting Goats … if I can't be yours - | 2013
    Malice Mizer - Beast of Blood | 2001
    Versailles - Zombie | 2008
    Dir en grey - 鱗 (Uroko) |2014
    X Japan - X | 1989
    Luna Sea - SHADE | 1991
    黒夢 (Kuroyume) - JESUS | 1993
    La'Mule - ナイフ (Knife) | 2000
    hide - Rocket Dive | 1998
    LAREINE - 冬東京 (Fuyuu Tokyo) | 2000
    D'espairsRay - "forbidden" | 2005
    Dir en grey - OBSCURE | 2003
    UnsraW - -9- | 2006
    Maximum the Hormone - 絶望ビリー (Zetsubou Billy) | 2007
    The Gazette - Ruder | 2005
    Girugamesh - 終わりと未来 (Owari to Mirai) | 2006
    蜉蝣 (Kagerou) - 絶望にサヨナラ (Zetsubou ni Sayonara) | 2005
    MUCC - 絶望 (Zetsubou) | 2002
    D'espairsRay - in vain | 2005
    Dir en grey - raison detre | 1999
    Malice Mizer - illuminati | 1998
    Malice Mizer - 月下の夜想曲 (Gekka no Yasoukyoku) | 1998
    Gackt - Vanilla | 2000
    The GazettE - Filth in the beauty | 2006
    Dir en grey - THE FINAL | 2004

    To be continued in Lunacy vol.2... †††
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    WhirlingBlack got a reaction from nattliga_toner in [VK Nightclub] Klubb Lunacy   
    Thanks! I hope to see you there next time! It was a huge success, never seen so many people dancing to good music at the same time. We will probably have an event of some sort next month so keep up with our facebook page!
  15. Like
    WhirlingBlack got a reaction from helcchi in X Japan new album scheduled for 30th of TBD   
    I'm meeting Yoshiki for a Q&A session on the 19th of October, if there aren't any news by that point on the album I'll just ask him for a release date.
    My best guess is that he'll immediately cancel the Q&A and have his guards escort me off the premises. 
  16. Like
    WhirlingBlack got a reaction from Jigsaw9 in X Japan new album scheduled for 30th of TBD   
    I'm meeting Yoshiki for a Q&A session on the 19th of October, if there aren't any news by that point on the album I'll just ask him for a release date.
    My best guess is that he'll immediately cancel the Q&A and have his guards escort me off the premises. 
  17. LOLOL
    WhirlingBlack got a reaction from Spectralion in X Japan new album scheduled for 30th of TBD   
    I'm meeting Yoshiki for a Q&A session on the 19th of October, if there aren't any news by that point on the album I'll just ask him for a release date.
    My best guess is that he'll immediately cancel the Q&A and have his guards escort me off the premises. 
  18. Like
    WhirlingBlack got a reaction from Zeus in X Japan new album scheduled for 30th of TBD   
    I'm meeting Yoshiki for a Q&A session on the 19th of October, if there aren't any news by that point on the album I'll just ask him for a release date.
    My best guess is that he'll immediately cancel the Q&A and have his guards escort me off the premises. 
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    WhirlingBlack got a reaction from orange~ in X Japan new album scheduled for 30th of TBD   
    I'm meeting Yoshiki for a Q&A session on the 19th of October, if there aren't any news by that point on the album I'll just ask him for a release date.
    My best guess is that he'll immediately cancel the Q&A and have his guards escort me off the premises. 
  20. Like
    WhirlingBlack reacted to CELESTIAL CIEL in Show Yourself (again)   
    Meow.
     
     
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    WhirlingBlack got a reaction from sakuran in DIR EN GREY - TOUR16-17 FROM DEPRESSION TO ________   
    I'm pretty sure that foreign fanbase is an afterthought at best. 
     
    That said though, I attended the entire tour and didn't see one single of the many Chinese people present break out in tears, rip their Dir shirts to shreds or try to suicide bomb the venue. I didn't see a single overtly supremacist statement or controversial point beyond a very mainstream "free tibet" deal which makes sense based on their Buddhist backgrounds. It's about as dangerous and edgy as wanting to free Syria from ISIS.  I think it's safe to say these "problems" mostly exist in your head, and to be frank you present them in such a convoluted way that I think most people aren't even sure of what you're trying to say.
     
    Let that be an end to this for now, we don't need any "Dir en grey are supremacists" discussions based on hearsay.
     
  22. Like
    WhirlingBlack got a reaction from jaymee in Psycho le Cému   
    I actually saw them perform with Metronome last month in Japan. I went to see Metronome and my friends went to see PLC.
     
    I did enjoy their set, but I've always felt that their theme is kind of cringe-y. But it might be because I'm not into the anime/cosplay world so I don't quite get the point, and it might be one of the reasons I never gave their music much of a shot in the past. I wasn't sold on everything but some of the stuff was quite good, so I might check out some releases again, I think I might even own a few CDs... somewhere... (unsurprisingly, my friends said the songs I enjoyed the most were quite old material.)
     
    Will take recommendations!
     
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    WhirlingBlack got a reaction from platy in [VK Nightclub] Klubb Lunacy   
    Klubb Lunacy is one of Europe's oldest Visual Kei nightclubs, which originally ran between 2004 and 2010. After a 7 years long hiatus, I'm happy to announce that I'm the one who is carrying on the torch and together with the old owner I'm reforming it and intend to make it stronger than ever. The first date is set for 1 of September in Stockholm, Sweden. Six hours of old and new Visual Kei music, a Visual Kei outfit competition with an amazing prize sponsored by RarezHut, and the chance to hang out with over one hundred other fans of this increasingly rare style of music.
     
    And while we hope that some of you might be able to attend this grand revival, we don't intend to limit our activities to Sweden, and would be glad to bring it wherever enough people who are interested might be located, mainly in Europe. So if you have any connections or ideas please feel free to message me and we'll see what can be done!
     
    The clubs Facebook is located here:
    https://www.facebook.com/KlubbLunacy/
     
    And the event itself is located here:
    https://www.facebook.com/events/1435508826514161/
     
    Most posts have an English version after the Swedish text, so please scroll down if you want more info!
     
    We're glad for any and all support we can get from you guys as we try to bring back some community and party to the fandom! 
     
    Also a special thanks to @orange~ who designed our logo!
  24. Like
    WhirlingBlack got a reaction from jaymee in [VK Nightclub] Klubb Lunacy   
    Klubb Lunacy is one of Europe's oldest Visual Kei nightclubs, which originally ran between 2004 and 2010. After a 7 years long hiatus, I'm happy to announce that I'm the one who is carrying on the torch and together with the old owner I'm reforming it and intend to make it stronger than ever. The first date is set for 1 of September in Stockholm, Sweden. Six hours of old and new Visual Kei music, a Visual Kei outfit competition with an amazing prize sponsored by RarezHut, and the chance to hang out with over one hundred other fans of this increasingly rare style of music.
     
    And while we hope that some of you might be able to attend this grand revival, we don't intend to limit our activities to Sweden, and would be glad to bring it wherever enough people who are interested might be located, mainly in Europe. So if you have any connections or ideas please feel free to message me and we'll see what can be done!
     
    The clubs Facebook is located here:
    https://www.facebook.com/KlubbLunacy/
     
    And the event itself is located here:
    https://www.facebook.com/events/1435508826514161/
     
    Most posts have an English version after the Swedish text, so please scroll down if you want more info!
     
    We're glad for any and all support we can get from you guys as we try to bring back some community and party to the fandom! 
     
    Also a special thanks to @orange~ who designed our logo!
  25. Like
    WhirlingBlack got a reaction from jaymee in MUCC new DVD and tribute album release !   
    I attended two of the shows on this old school tour in osaka and posted them on Facebook. Decides I might just as well repost them here:
     
    Day 1:
    "
    I just attended the best show of my life, and it was a MUCC live.
     
    The best way I can describe it is as if I went back in a time machine to 2001 and attended one of their oneman lives. They performed only old songs, including tracks so old several fans noticably did not recognize then, like Kranke (my favorite song!) and Koibito. The entire live felt dangerous and rough, just like one of those 90s lives where the audience are headbanging their necks off and the band is taunting them further into a frenzy. Before VK became a polished business.
     
    It was super intense, during some songs the entire audience was moshing and thanks to the intense mosh I ended up in the second row in front of tatsurou during the second half of the live, where I ended up catching him as he stage dived during Orugooru. At the end, when they played Kurutta Kajitsu, we were even ordered to perform a wall of death and delivered it splendidly.
     
    https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/mucc/2017/esaka-muse-osaka-japan-2be5b0e2.html
     
    Tomorrow is Homura Uta day... can't wait. Dir en grey, take note. This is how you do nostalgia shows."
     
    Day 2:
    "
    So... MUCC day 2 was every bit as good as day 1. Homura Uta day, so practically the whole album was performed, along with some songs from Antique and Tsuuzetsu.

    Especially the performance of Kimi ni Sachi Are and Kurayami ni Saku Hana stood out as soulcrushingly beautiful, and tracks like Kokuen made the whole audience mosh yet again while Tatsurou kept jumping into the front rows to make us work harder.
     
    Before OYOGE! TAIYAKI-KUN Tatsurou addressed me directly, asking if I knew the lyrics (since I was seemingly the only foreigner at least in the front of the venue). I made an OK sign and he looked surprised and happy and made some comment about it, and then we all sang it together, the entire venue.
     
    During the wall of death during Kurutta Kajitsu today, he jumped into the audience and participated for a bit before being rescued back onto the stage. 
     
    To be honest, unless MUCC makes further nostalgia tours, I might not attend any more of their lives in the future. Nothing can top this tour no matter how hard they try. Sure, I'd like to see a Zekuu and Kuchiki no Tou tour as well, but until that happens I might just lay off their lives in the future.
     
    Todays Setlist:
    HOMURA UTA (intro)
    ZETSUBOU
    SHIAWASE NO SHUUCHAKU
    KOKUEN
    YAKEATO
    KARE GA SHINDA HI
    KIMI NI SACHI ARE
    MAMA
    SHIGATSU NO RENGESOU
    BOKU GA HONTOU NO BOKU NI TAEKIREZU TSUKUTTA HONTOU NO BOKU
    KURAYAMI NI SAKU HANA
    USO DE YUGAMU SHINZOU
    KAERANU HITO
    KOKONOKA
    OYOGE! TAIYAKI-KUN
    SUISOU
    MAE E
    SUIMIN
    Encore:
    YUME NO MACHI
    SHOUFU
    DAIKIRAI
    KURUTTA KAJITSU (WARAI)"
     
    Hope someone here finds it interesting to read!
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