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WhirlingBlack got a reaction from reminiscing2004 in Do Japanese men dislike visual kei?
I think that this situation sort of showcases the discrepancy between the western and Japanese fandom, in some ways. We in the west have sort of built up our own subculture surrounding VK that isn't the same as it is in Japan. In Japan, attending VK lives can have connotations that a lot of guys would want to avoid, the informal rules surrounding the lives can also make the shows less enjoyable to men too, as in the whole staying put in your spot, allowing time and space for the girls to fix their hair between each headbang and stuff like that. The western VK fandom treats it more like any other alternative subculture whereas I feel like in Japan it has unhealthy connections with the host ideals.
I went to a VK bar in Tokyo and talked to the bartender and he said that the regular girls scared away other customers on the weekends by refusing to let him serve others, since they "paid for his company" by buying drinks, and they would demand from him to play only the one band they listen to the entire night.
I think for a lot of guys who are into VK, most Japanese men who are into VK are CD-only by the way, as in they don't attend the shows but just buy the music from stores and might occasionally show up to onemans and stand in the back, this doesn't create a fun atmosphere since they would prefer to just hang about and talk shit about music and listen to a dozen different bands.
I realize that the bangya culture is what keeps the bands afloat, but I think it's also this culture that sort of kills the fun for a lot of guys who enjoy the music and enjoy the scene aesthetically but isn't just invested in one band and wants to enjoy some host fantasy with them. And this is why guys have a larger part in the western fandom because ours really isn't connected much to the Japanese one beyond listening to the same bands.
To be fair though, quite a few bands try to remedy this by doing those male only shows, and I think that's an awesome thing, although I wish it weren't necessary.
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WhirlingBlack got a reaction from r... in Do Japanese men dislike visual kei?
I don't think it's a clear cut division as much as it's a generalization to make the point easier. There's plenty of bangya who are into many bands and have a wide knowledge of the scene, and there are plenty of guys who go to the lives and enjoy them despite not always feeling like circumstances are ideal (I've attended upwards of 100 VK shows, for example.)
It's just that the majority fall into the stereotypes, whether it's self-imposed or formed by the strong consensus culture of Japan I don't know, but once something gets viewed in the public eye as being geared towards a specific audience, the threshold to dare to break that mold gets much higher, especially in a country like Japan where this is strongly discouraged in general.
In an ideal world people wouldn't care, like you say, but we all know that's not how group psychology works.
Also, I think it's pretty normal that people who invest a lot of time and money into something, whether accidentally or not, look down on those who settle for less, but fandom elitism is another topic and far from exclusive to the guys either - it goes both ways, it's just that both groups measure dedication by different scales. I know bangya who look down on girls who attend lives of other bands, for example, because it's seen as "treason" towards their main act. Or look down on the fanboys for not supporting the bands at shows more. Just like I know guys who look down on those who don't know and love that one band that was around for three weeks in '93. It's problematic for sure but I think delving deeper into it is taking the thread off topic?
If people want to make another thread to discuss the toxic elements of bangya culture or fandom elitism, I'd be all for it, and I think it'd be interesting topics to discuss in a wider sense, but let's try to keep it relevant to the topic of male fans in the VK scene here.
@KomorebiI think it's pretty easy to spot when someone actually cares about the music and when someone is only there to drool at the band. All it takes is a short conversation on the topic of the bands music. And it's not mutually exclusive at all. I have plenty of female friends who can do both, and as long as I can participate in the discussions about the music and they keep the discussions about the bandmens physique with ones that are interested, I'm all good.
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WhirlingBlack got a reaction from plastic_rainbow in Do Japanese men dislike visual kei?
I think that this situation sort of showcases the discrepancy between the western and Japanese fandom, in some ways. We in the west have sort of built up our own subculture surrounding VK that isn't the same as it is in Japan. In Japan, attending VK lives can have connotations that a lot of guys would want to avoid, the informal rules surrounding the lives can also make the shows less enjoyable to men too, as in the whole staying put in your spot, allowing time and space for the girls to fix their hair between each headbang and stuff like that. The western VK fandom treats it more like any other alternative subculture whereas I feel like in Japan it has unhealthy connections with the host ideals.
I went to a VK bar in Tokyo and talked to the bartender and he said that the regular girls scared away other customers on the weekends by refusing to let him serve others, since they "paid for his company" by buying drinks, and they would demand from him to play only the one band they listen to the entire night.
I think for a lot of guys who are into VK, most Japanese men who are into VK are CD-only by the way, as in they don't attend the shows but just buy the music from stores and might occasionally show up to onemans and stand in the back, this doesn't create a fun atmosphere since they would prefer to just hang about and talk shit about music and listen to a dozen different bands.
I realize that the bangya culture is what keeps the bands afloat, but I think it's also this culture that sort of kills the fun for a lot of guys who enjoy the music and enjoy the scene aesthetically but isn't just invested in one band and wants to enjoy some host fantasy with them. And this is why guys have a larger part in the western fandom because ours really isn't connected much to the Japanese one beyond listening to the same bands.
To be fair though, quite a few bands try to remedy this by doing those male only shows, and I think that's an awesome thing, although I wish it weren't necessary.
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WhirlingBlack got a reaction from r... in Do Japanese men dislike visual kei?
I think that this situation sort of showcases the discrepancy between the western and Japanese fandom, in some ways. We in the west have sort of built up our own subculture surrounding VK that isn't the same as it is in Japan. In Japan, attending VK lives can have connotations that a lot of guys would want to avoid, the informal rules surrounding the lives can also make the shows less enjoyable to men too, as in the whole staying put in your spot, allowing time and space for the girls to fix their hair between each headbang and stuff like that. The western VK fandom treats it more like any other alternative subculture whereas I feel like in Japan it has unhealthy connections with the host ideals.
I went to a VK bar in Tokyo and talked to the bartender and he said that the regular girls scared away other customers on the weekends by refusing to let him serve others, since they "paid for his company" by buying drinks, and they would demand from him to play only the one band they listen to the entire night.
I think for a lot of guys who are into VK, most Japanese men who are into VK are CD-only by the way, as in they don't attend the shows but just buy the music from stores and might occasionally show up to onemans and stand in the back, this doesn't create a fun atmosphere since they would prefer to just hang about and talk shit about music and listen to a dozen different bands.
I realize that the bangya culture is what keeps the bands afloat, but I think it's also this culture that sort of kills the fun for a lot of guys who enjoy the music and enjoy the scene aesthetically but isn't just invested in one band and wants to enjoy some host fantasy with them. And this is why guys have a larger part in the western fandom because ours really isn't connected much to the Japanese one beyond listening to the same bands.
To be fair though, quite a few bands try to remedy this by doing those male only shows, and I think that's an awesome thing, although I wish it weren't necessary.
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WhirlingBlack got a reaction from Zeus in Do Japanese men dislike visual kei?
I think that this situation sort of showcases the discrepancy between the western and Japanese fandom, in some ways. We in the west have sort of built up our own subculture surrounding VK that isn't the same as it is in Japan. In Japan, attending VK lives can have connotations that a lot of guys would want to avoid, the informal rules surrounding the lives can also make the shows less enjoyable to men too, as in the whole staying put in your spot, allowing time and space for the girls to fix their hair between each headbang and stuff like that. The western VK fandom treats it more like any other alternative subculture whereas I feel like in Japan it has unhealthy connections with the host ideals.
I went to a VK bar in Tokyo and talked to the bartender and he said that the regular girls scared away other customers on the weekends by refusing to let him serve others, since they "paid for his company" by buying drinks, and they would demand from him to play only the one band they listen to the entire night.
I think for a lot of guys who are into VK, most Japanese men who are into VK are CD-only by the way, as in they don't attend the shows but just buy the music from stores and might occasionally show up to onemans and stand in the back, this doesn't create a fun atmosphere since they would prefer to just hang about and talk shit about music and listen to a dozen different bands.
I realize that the bangya culture is what keeps the bands afloat, but I think it's also this culture that sort of kills the fun for a lot of guys who enjoy the music and enjoy the scene aesthetically but isn't just invested in one band and wants to enjoy some host fantasy with them. And this is why guys have a larger part in the western fandom because ours really isn't connected much to the Japanese one beyond listening to the same bands.
To be fair though, quite a few bands try to remedy this by doing those male only shows, and I think that's an awesome thing, although I wish it weren't necessary.
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WhirlingBlack got a reaction from zaa_zaa in Do Japanese men dislike visual kei?
I think that this situation sort of showcases the discrepancy between the western and Japanese fandom, in some ways. We in the west have sort of built up our own subculture surrounding VK that isn't the same as it is in Japan. In Japan, attending VK lives can have connotations that a lot of guys would want to avoid, the informal rules surrounding the lives can also make the shows less enjoyable to men too, as in the whole staying put in your spot, allowing time and space for the girls to fix their hair between each headbang and stuff like that. The western VK fandom treats it more like any other alternative subculture whereas I feel like in Japan it has unhealthy connections with the host ideals.
I went to a VK bar in Tokyo and talked to the bartender and he said that the regular girls scared away other customers on the weekends by refusing to let him serve others, since they "paid for his company" by buying drinks, and they would demand from him to play only the one band they listen to the entire night.
I think for a lot of guys who are into VK, most Japanese men who are into VK are CD-only by the way, as in they don't attend the shows but just buy the music from stores and might occasionally show up to onemans and stand in the back, this doesn't create a fun atmosphere since they would prefer to just hang about and talk shit about music and listen to a dozen different bands.
I realize that the bangya culture is what keeps the bands afloat, but I think it's also this culture that sort of kills the fun for a lot of guys who enjoy the music and enjoy the scene aesthetically but isn't just invested in one band and wants to enjoy some host fantasy with them. And this is why guys have a larger part in the western fandom because ours really isn't connected much to the Japanese one beyond listening to the same bands.
To be fair though, quite a few bands try to remedy this by doing those male only shows, and I think that's an awesome thing, although I wish it weren't necessary.
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WhirlingBlack got a reaction from platy in Do Japanese men dislike visual kei?
I think that this situation sort of showcases the discrepancy between the western and Japanese fandom, in some ways. We in the west have sort of built up our own subculture surrounding VK that isn't the same as it is in Japan. In Japan, attending VK lives can have connotations that a lot of guys would want to avoid, the informal rules surrounding the lives can also make the shows less enjoyable to men too, as in the whole staying put in your spot, allowing time and space for the girls to fix their hair between each headbang and stuff like that. The western VK fandom treats it more like any other alternative subculture whereas I feel like in Japan it has unhealthy connections with the host ideals.
I went to a VK bar in Tokyo and talked to the bartender and he said that the regular girls scared away other customers on the weekends by refusing to let him serve others, since they "paid for his company" by buying drinks, and they would demand from him to play only the one band they listen to the entire night.
I think for a lot of guys who are into VK, most Japanese men who are into VK are CD-only by the way, as in they don't attend the shows but just buy the music from stores and might occasionally show up to onemans and stand in the back, this doesn't create a fun atmosphere since they would prefer to just hang about and talk shit about music and listen to a dozen different bands.
I realize that the bangya culture is what keeps the bands afloat, but I think it's also this culture that sort of kills the fun for a lot of guys who enjoy the music and enjoy the scene aesthetically but isn't just invested in one band and wants to enjoy some host fantasy with them. And this is why guys have a larger part in the western fandom because ours really isn't connected much to the Japanese one beyond listening to the same bands.
To be fair though, quite a few bands try to remedy this by doing those male only shows, and I think that's an awesome thing, although I wish it weren't necessary.
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WhirlingBlack got a reaction from saishuu in DIR EN GREY - TOUR16-17 FROM DEPRESSION TO ________
I'm pretty sure that foreign fanbase is an afterthought at best.
That said though, I attended the entire tour and didn't see one single of the many Chinese people present break out in tears, rip their Dir shirts to shreds or try to suicide bomb the venue. I didn't see a single overtly supremacist statement or controversial point beyond a very mainstream "free tibet" deal which makes sense based on their Buddhist backgrounds. It's about as dangerous and edgy as wanting to free Syria from ISIS. I think it's safe to say these "problems" mostly exist in your head, and to be frank you present them in such a convoluted way that I think most people aren't even sure of what you're trying to say.
Let that be an end to this for now, we don't need any "Dir en grey are supremacists" discussions based on hearsay.
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WhirlingBlack got a reaction from Laurence02 in [VK Nightclub] Klubb Lunacy
By the way, for anyone who might be curious, this was the playlist of the night!
Klubb Lunacy 1/9 Grand Revival 「† Return of Visual "Monster" †」 Setlist
Klubb Lunacy 21:00 - 22:30
ROUAGE - めざめのうたげ (Mesame no Utage) | 1994
emmuree - グロセックス (Gurosex) | 2000
deadman - Blood | 2001
Baiser - Dye | 1995
D≒SIRE - JESUS? | 1995
Madeth gray'll - 狂死曲 (Kyoushikyoku) | 1999
Dir en grey - Ash | 1998
Sleep my Dear - Flowers | 1997
sukekiyo - 黝いヒステリア (Aoguroi Hysteria) | 2017
Girugamesh - Decieved Mad Pain | 2005
lynch. - unknown lost a beauty | 2005
Versailles - The Red Carpet Day | 2007
摩天楼オペラ (Matenrou Opera) - honey drop | 2007
LUNA SEA - ROSIER | 1994
BUCK-TICK - スピード (Speed) | 1991
Dir en grey - Unknown...Despair...a Lost | 1998
Rentrer en Soi - PROTOPLASM | 2007
MUCC - ファズ (Fuzz) | 2007
Plastic Tree - Ghost | 2005
Malice Mizer - 月下の夜想曲 (Gekka no Yasoukyoku) | 1998
D'espairsRay - Garnet | 2003
-DJ Dispo set- 22:30 - 00:00 (order might not be 100% accurate)
DADAROMA - リズリーサーカス (Risley Circus) | 2016
NOCTURNAL BLOODLUST - Strike in fact | 2014
SCAPEGOAT - 眠れない僕の趣味 (Nemurenai Boku no Shumi) | 2015
0.1gの誤算 (0.1g no Gosan) - 溺愛ヤンデレボーイ (Dekiai Yandereboi) | 2017
Lycaon – 残酷のサロメ (Zankoku no Salome) | 2013
アルルカン (Arlequin) - 像 (Zou) | 2014
ゴシップ (Gossip) - R-18 | 2015
蜉蝣 (Kagerou) - XII Dizzy | 2004
黒夢 (Kuroyume) - 親愛なるDEATH MASK (Shinainaru DEATH MASK) | 1993
AvelCain - PSYCHO -サイコ- | 2014
Mejibray - Sadisgate | 2012
Dir en grey - 脈 (Myaku) | 2000
蜉蝣 (Kagerou) - 根暗高速子守唄 (Nekura Housoku Komoriuta) | 2003
黒百合と影 (kuroyuri to kage) - 「便所2」 (benjo 2) | 2016
DEZERT - 「胃潰瘍とルソーの錯覚。」 (Ikaiyou to Rousseau no Sakkaku) | 2014
D'espairsRay - 「タトエバ」キミ...ガ...シンダ...ラ ([Tatoeba]Kimi...ga...Shinda..ra) | 2002
MUCC - 我、在ルベキ場所 (Ware, Arubeki Basho) | 2003
The Gazette - Beautiful 5 [shit]ers | 2003
グリーヴァ (Grieva) - 幻影Syndrome (Genei Syndrome) | 2016
Phantasmagoria - NEO ARK | 2005
phobia - 「Ⅵ」ײ section | 2000
Due' le quartz - 自殺願望 (Jisatsu Ganbou) | 2000
Penicillin - Blue Moon | 1996
Buck-Tick - … in heaven … | 1988
Klubb Lunacy 00:00 - 03:00
DENTAKU - エフエルアウトライン (FL Outline) *Background music while announcing outfit competition winner.*
X Japan - 紅 (Kurenai) | 1989
Dir en grey - GAUZE MEDLEY (Schwein no Isu -> Tsumi to Batsu -> 304 Goushitsu, Hakushi no Sakura -> Yurameki -> Yokan -> MASK -> ZAN) | 1999
Gackt - Vanilla | 2000
An Cafe - Smile Ichiban Ii Onna | 2006
ゴールデンボンバー (Golden Bomber) - Dance My Generation | 2013
Girugamesh - evolution | 2008
cali≠gari - マグロ (Maguro) | 2001
deadman - follow the night light | 2005
D'espairsRay - MIRROR | 2007
MUCC - 大嫌い (Daikirai) | 2002
Dir en grey - CLEVER SLEAZOID | 2005
Girugamesh - Shining | 2007
The GazettE - HEADACHE MAN | 2009
NOCTURNAL BLOODLUST - DESPERATE | 2014
DADAROMA - 溺れる魚 (Oboreru Sakana) | 2014
MEJIBRAY - DECADANCE - Counting Goats … if I can't be yours - | 2013
Malice Mizer - Beast of Blood | 2001
Versailles - Zombie | 2008
Dir en grey - 鱗 (Uroko) |2014
X Japan - X | 1989
Luna Sea - SHADE | 1991
黒夢 (Kuroyume) - JESUS | 1993
La'Mule - ナイフ (Knife) | 2000
hide - Rocket Dive | 1998
LAREINE - 冬東京 (Fuyuu Tokyo) | 2000
D'espairsRay - "forbidden" | 2005
Dir en grey - OBSCURE | 2003
UnsraW - -9- | 2006
Maximum the Hormone - 絶望ビリー (Zetsubou Billy) | 2007
The Gazette - Ruder | 2005
Girugamesh - 終わりと未来 (Owari to Mirai) | 2006
蜉蝣 (Kagerou) - 絶望にサヨナラ (Zetsubou ni Sayonara) | 2005
MUCC - 絶望 (Zetsubou) | 2002
D'espairsRay - in vain | 2005
Dir en grey - raison detre | 1999
Malice Mizer - illuminati | 1998
Malice Mizer - 月下の夜想曲 (Gekka no Yasoukyoku) | 1998
Gackt - Vanilla | 2000
The GazettE - Filth in the beauty | 2006
Dir en grey - THE FINAL | 2004
To be continued in Lunacy vol.2... †††
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WhirlingBlack got a reaction from Tokage in Entry Level Raccoon Albums
Some of that info is incorrect: SKY HIGH is actually a cover of a 1970s band called Jigsaw.
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WhirlingBlack got a reaction from Jigsaw9 in [VK Nightclub] Klubb Lunacy
By the way, for anyone who might be curious, this was the playlist of the night!
Klubb Lunacy 1/9 Grand Revival 「† Return of Visual "Monster" †」 Setlist
Klubb Lunacy 21:00 - 22:30
ROUAGE - めざめのうたげ (Mesame no Utage) | 1994
emmuree - グロセックス (Gurosex) | 2000
deadman - Blood | 2001
Baiser - Dye | 1995
D≒SIRE - JESUS? | 1995
Madeth gray'll - 狂死曲 (Kyoushikyoku) | 1999
Dir en grey - Ash | 1998
Sleep my Dear - Flowers | 1997
sukekiyo - 黝いヒステリア (Aoguroi Hysteria) | 2017
Girugamesh - Decieved Mad Pain | 2005
lynch. - unknown lost a beauty | 2005
Versailles - The Red Carpet Day | 2007
摩天楼オペラ (Matenrou Opera) - honey drop | 2007
LUNA SEA - ROSIER | 1994
BUCK-TICK - スピード (Speed) | 1991
Dir en grey - Unknown...Despair...a Lost | 1998
Rentrer en Soi - PROTOPLASM | 2007
MUCC - ファズ (Fuzz) | 2007
Plastic Tree - Ghost | 2005
Malice Mizer - 月下の夜想曲 (Gekka no Yasoukyoku) | 1998
D'espairsRay - Garnet | 2003
-DJ Dispo set- 22:30 - 00:00 (order might not be 100% accurate)
DADAROMA - リズリーサーカス (Risley Circus) | 2016
NOCTURNAL BLOODLUST - Strike in fact | 2014
SCAPEGOAT - 眠れない僕の趣味 (Nemurenai Boku no Shumi) | 2015
0.1gの誤算 (0.1g no Gosan) - 溺愛ヤンデレボーイ (Dekiai Yandereboi) | 2017
Lycaon – 残酷のサロメ (Zankoku no Salome) | 2013
アルルカン (Arlequin) - 像 (Zou) | 2014
ゴシップ (Gossip) - R-18 | 2015
蜉蝣 (Kagerou) - XII Dizzy | 2004
黒夢 (Kuroyume) - 親愛なるDEATH MASK (Shinainaru DEATH MASK) | 1993
AvelCain - PSYCHO -サイコ- | 2014
Mejibray - Sadisgate | 2012
Dir en grey - 脈 (Myaku) | 2000
蜉蝣 (Kagerou) - 根暗高速子守唄 (Nekura Housoku Komoriuta) | 2003
黒百合と影 (kuroyuri to kage) - 「便所2」 (benjo 2) | 2016
DEZERT - 「胃潰瘍とルソーの錯覚。」 (Ikaiyou to Rousseau no Sakkaku) | 2014
D'espairsRay - 「タトエバ」キミ...ガ...シンダ...ラ ([Tatoeba]Kimi...ga...Shinda..ra) | 2002
MUCC - 我、在ルベキ場所 (Ware, Arubeki Basho) | 2003
The Gazette - Beautiful 5 [shit]ers | 2003
グリーヴァ (Grieva) - 幻影Syndrome (Genei Syndrome) | 2016
Phantasmagoria - NEO ARK | 2005
phobia - 「Ⅵ」ײ section | 2000
Due' le quartz - 自殺願望 (Jisatsu Ganbou) | 2000
Penicillin - Blue Moon | 1996
Buck-Tick - … in heaven … | 1988
Klubb Lunacy 00:00 - 03:00
DENTAKU - エフエルアウトライン (FL Outline) *Background music while announcing outfit competition winner.*
X Japan - 紅 (Kurenai) | 1989
Dir en grey - GAUZE MEDLEY (Schwein no Isu -> Tsumi to Batsu -> 304 Goushitsu, Hakushi no Sakura -> Yurameki -> Yokan -> MASK -> ZAN) | 1999
Gackt - Vanilla | 2000
An Cafe - Smile Ichiban Ii Onna | 2006
ゴールデンボンバー (Golden Bomber) - Dance My Generation | 2013
Girugamesh - evolution | 2008
cali≠gari - マグロ (Maguro) | 2001
deadman - follow the night light | 2005
D'espairsRay - MIRROR | 2007
MUCC - 大嫌い (Daikirai) | 2002
Dir en grey - CLEVER SLEAZOID | 2005
Girugamesh - Shining | 2007
The GazettE - HEADACHE MAN | 2009
NOCTURNAL BLOODLUST - DESPERATE | 2014
DADAROMA - 溺れる魚 (Oboreru Sakana) | 2014
MEJIBRAY - DECADANCE - Counting Goats … if I can't be yours - | 2013
Malice Mizer - Beast of Blood | 2001
Versailles - Zombie | 2008
Dir en grey - 鱗 (Uroko) |2014
X Japan - X | 1989
Luna Sea - SHADE | 1991
黒夢 (Kuroyume) - JESUS | 1993
La'Mule - ナイフ (Knife) | 2000
hide - Rocket Dive | 1998
LAREINE - 冬東京 (Fuyuu Tokyo) | 2000
D'espairsRay - "forbidden" | 2005
Dir en grey - OBSCURE | 2003
UnsraW - -9- | 2006
Maximum the Hormone - 絶望ビリー (Zetsubou Billy) | 2007
The Gazette - Ruder | 2005
Girugamesh - 終わりと未来 (Owari to Mirai) | 2006
蜉蝣 (Kagerou) - 絶望にサヨナラ (Zetsubou ni Sayonara) | 2005
MUCC - 絶望 (Zetsubou) | 2002
D'espairsRay - in vain | 2005
Dir en grey - raison detre | 1999
Malice Mizer - illuminati | 1998
Malice Mizer - 月下の夜想曲 (Gekka no Yasoukyoku) | 1998
Gackt - Vanilla | 2000
The GazettE - Filth in the beauty | 2006
Dir en grey - THE FINAL | 2004
To be continued in Lunacy vol.2... †††
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WhirlingBlack got a reaction from clow_eriol in X Japan new album scheduled for 30th of TBD
I'm meeting Yoshiki for a Q&A session on the 19th of October, if there aren't any news by that point on the album I'll just ask him for a release date.
My best guess is that he'll immediately cancel the Q&A and have his guards escort me off the premises.
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WhirlingBlack got a reaction from suji in [VK Nightclub] Klubb Lunacy
By the way, for anyone who might be curious, this was the playlist of the night!
Klubb Lunacy 1/9 Grand Revival 「† Return of Visual "Monster" †」 Setlist
Klubb Lunacy 21:00 - 22:30
ROUAGE - めざめのうたげ (Mesame no Utage) | 1994
emmuree - グロセックス (Gurosex) | 2000
deadman - Blood | 2001
Baiser - Dye | 1995
D≒SIRE - JESUS? | 1995
Madeth gray'll - 狂死曲 (Kyoushikyoku) | 1999
Dir en grey - Ash | 1998
Sleep my Dear - Flowers | 1997
sukekiyo - 黝いヒステリア (Aoguroi Hysteria) | 2017
Girugamesh - Decieved Mad Pain | 2005
lynch. - unknown lost a beauty | 2005
Versailles - The Red Carpet Day | 2007
摩天楼オペラ (Matenrou Opera) - honey drop | 2007
LUNA SEA - ROSIER | 1994
BUCK-TICK - スピード (Speed) | 1991
Dir en grey - Unknown...Despair...a Lost | 1998
Rentrer en Soi - PROTOPLASM | 2007
MUCC - ファズ (Fuzz) | 2007
Plastic Tree - Ghost | 2005
Malice Mizer - 月下の夜想曲 (Gekka no Yasoukyoku) | 1998
D'espairsRay - Garnet | 2003
-DJ Dispo set- 22:30 - 00:00 (order might not be 100% accurate)
DADAROMA - リズリーサーカス (Risley Circus) | 2016
NOCTURNAL BLOODLUST - Strike in fact | 2014
SCAPEGOAT - 眠れない僕の趣味 (Nemurenai Boku no Shumi) | 2015
0.1gの誤算 (0.1g no Gosan) - 溺愛ヤンデレボーイ (Dekiai Yandereboi) | 2017
Lycaon – 残酷のサロメ (Zankoku no Salome) | 2013
アルルカン (Arlequin) - 像 (Zou) | 2014
ゴシップ (Gossip) - R-18 | 2015
蜉蝣 (Kagerou) - XII Dizzy | 2004
黒夢 (Kuroyume) - 親愛なるDEATH MASK (Shinainaru DEATH MASK) | 1993
AvelCain - PSYCHO -サイコ- | 2014
Mejibray - Sadisgate | 2012
Dir en grey - 脈 (Myaku) | 2000
蜉蝣 (Kagerou) - 根暗高速子守唄 (Nekura Housoku Komoriuta) | 2003
黒百合と影 (kuroyuri to kage) - 「便所2」 (benjo 2) | 2016
DEZERT - 「胃潰瘍とルソーの錯覚。」 (Ikaiyou to Rousseau no Sakkaku) | 2014
D'espairsRay - 「タトエバ」キミ...ガ...シンダ...ラ ([Tatoeba]Kimi...ga...Shinda..ra) | 2002
MUCC - 我、在ルベキ場所 (Ware, Arubeki Basho) | 2003
The Gazette - Beautiful 5 [shit]ers | 2003
グリーヴァ (Grieva) - 幻影Syndrome (Genei Syndrome) | 2016
Phantasmagoria - NEO ARK | 2005
phobia - 「Ⅵ」ײ section | 2000
Due' le quartz - 自殺願望 (Jisatsu Ganbou) | 2000
Penicillin - Blue Moon | 1996
Buck-Tick - … in heaven … | 1988
Klubb Lunacy 00:00 - 03:00
DENTAKU - エフエルアウトライン (FL Outline) *Background music while announcing outfit competition winner.*
X Japan - 紅 (Kurenai) | 1989
Dir en grey - GAUZE MEDLEY (Schwein no Isu -> Tsumi to Batsu -> 304 Goushitsu, Hakushi no Sakura -> Yurameki -> Yokan -> MASK -> ZAN) | 1999
Gackt - Vanilla | 2000
An Cafe - Smile Ichiban Ii Onna | 2006
ゴールデンボンバー (Golden Bomber) - Dance My Generation | 2013
Girugamesh - evolution | 2008
cali≠gari - マグロ (Maguro) | 2001
deadman - follow the night light | 2005
D'espairsRay - MIRROR | 2007
MUCC - 大嫌い (Daikirai) | 2002
Dir en grey - CLEVER SLEAZOID | 2005
Girugamesh - Shining | 2007
The GazettE - HEADACHE MAN | 2009
NOCTURNAL BLOODLUST - DESPERATE | 2014
DADAROMA - 溺れる魚 (Oboreru Sakana) | 2014
MEJIBRAY - DECADANCE - Counting Goats … if I can't be yours - | 2013
Malice Mizer - Beast of Blood | 2001
Versailles - Zombie | 2008
Dir en grey - 鱗 (Uroko) |2014
X Japan - X | 1989
Luna Sea - SHADE | 1991
黒夢 (Kuroyume) - JESUS | 1993
La'Mule - ナイフ (Knife) | 2000
hide - Rocket Dive | 1998
LAREINE - 冬東京 (Fuyuu Tokyo) | 2000
D'espairsRay - "forbidden" | 2005
Dir en grey - OBSCURE | 2003
UnsraW - -9- | 2006
Maximum the Hormone - 絶望ビリー (Zetsubou Billy) | 2007
The Gazette - Ruder | 2005
Girugamesh - 終わりと未来 (Owari to Mirai) | 2006
蜉蝣 (Kagerou) - 絶望にサヨナラ (Zetsubou ni Sayonara) | 2005
MUCC - 絶望 (Zetsubou) | 2002
D'espairsRay - in vain | 2005
Dir en grey - raison detre | 1999
Malice Mizer - illuminati | 1998
Malice Mizer - 月下の夜想曲 (Gekka no Yasoukyoku) | 1998
Gackt - Vanilla | 2000
The GazettE - Filth in the beauty | 2006
Dir en grey - THE FINAL | 2004
To be continued in Lunacy vol.2... †††
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WhirlingBlack got a reaction from nattliga_toner in [VK Nightclub] Klubb Lunacy
Thanks! I hope to see you there next time! It was a huge success, never seen so many people dancing to good music at the same time. We will probably have an event of some sort next month so keep up with our facebook page!
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WhirlingBlack got a reaction from helcchi in X Japan new album scheduled for 30th of TBD
I'm meeting Yoshiki for a Q&A session on the 19th of October, if there aren't any news by that point on the album I'll just ask him for a release date.
My best guess is that he'll immediately cancel the Q&A and have his guards escort me off the premises.
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WhirlingBlack got a reaction from Jigsaw9 in X Japan new album scheduled for 30th of TBD
I'm meeting Yoshiki for a Q&A session on the 19th of October, if there aren't any news by that point on the album I'll just ask him for a release date.
My best guess is that he'll immediately cancel the Q&A and have his guards escort me off the premises.
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WhirlingBlack got a reaction from Spectralion in X Japan new album scheduled for 30th of TBD
I'm meeting Yoshiki for a Q&A session on the 19th of October, if there aren't any news by that point on the album I'll just ask him for a release date.
My best guess is that he'll immediately cancel the Q&A and have his guards escort me off the premises.
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WhirlingBlack got a reaction from Zeus in X Japan new album scheduled for 30th of TBD
I'm meeting Yoshiki for a Q&A session on the 19th of October, if there aren't any news by that point on the album I'll just ask him for a release date.
My best guess is that he'll immediately cancel the Q&A and have his guards escort me off the premises.
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WhirlingBlack got a reaction from orange~ in X Japan new album scheduled for 30th of TBD
I'm meeting Yoshiki for a Q&A session on the 19th of October, if there aren't any news by that point on the album I'll just ask him for a release date.
My best guess is that he'll immediately cancel the Q&A and have his guards escort me off the premises.
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WhirlingBlack got a reaction from sakuran in DIR EN GREY - TOUR16-17 FROM DEPRESSION TO ________
I'm pretty sure that foreign fanbase is an afterthought at best.
That said though, I attended the entire tour and didn't see one single of the many Chinese people present break out in tears, rip their Dir shirts to shreds or try to suicide bomb the venue. I didn't see a single overtly supremacist statement or controversial point beyond a very mainstream "free tibet" deal which makes sense based on their Buddhist backgrounds. It's about as dangerous and edgy as wanting to free Syria from ISIS. I think it's safe to say these "problems" mostly exist in your head, and to be frank you present them in such a convoluted way that I think most people aren't even sure of what you're trying to say.
Let that be an end to this for now, we don't need any "Dir en grey are supremacists" discussions based on hearsay.
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WhirlingBlack got a reaction from jaymee in Psycho le Cému
I actually saw them perform with Metronome last month in Japan. I went to see Metronome and my friends went to see PLC.
I did enjoy their set, but I've always felt that their theme is kind of cringe-y. But it might be because I'm not into the anime/cosplay world so I don't quite get the point, and it might be one of the reasons I never gave their music much of a shot in the past. I wasn't sold on everything but some of the stuff was quite good, so I might check out some releases again, I think I might even own a few CDs... somewhere... (unsurprisingly, my friends said the songs I enjoyed the most were quite old material.)
Will take recommendations!
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WhirlingBlack got a reaction from platy in [VK Nightclub] Klubb Lunacy
Klubb Lunacy is one of Europe's oldest Visual Kei nightclubs, which originally ran between 2004 and 2010. After a 7 years long hiatus, I'm happy to announce that I'm the one who is carrying on the torch and together with the old owner I'm reforming it and intend to make it stronger than ever. The first date is set for 1 of September in Stockholm, Sweden. Six hours of old and new Visual Kei music, a Visual Kei outfit competition with an amazing prize sponsored by RarezHut, and the chance to hang out with over one hundred other fans of this increasingly rare style of music.
And while we hope that some of you might be able to attend this grand revival, we don't intend to limit our activities to Sweden, and would be glad to bring it wherever enough people who are interested might be located, mainly in Europe. So if you have any connections or ideas please feel free to message me and we'll see what can be done!
The clubs Facebook is located here:
https://www.facebook.com/KlubbLunacy/
And the event itself is located here:
https://www.facebook.com/events/1435508826514161/
Most posts have an English version after the Swedish text, so please scroll down if you want more info!
We're glad for any and all support we can get from you guys as we try to bring back some community and party to the fandom!
Also a special thanks to @orange~ who designed our logo!
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WhirlingBlack got a reaction from jaymee in [VK Nightclub] Klubb Lunacy
Klubb Lunacy is one of Europe's oldest Visual Kei nightclubs, which originally ran between 2004 and 2010. After a 7 years long hiatus, I'm happy to announce that I'm the one who is carrying on the torch and together with the old owner I'm reforming it and intend to make it stronger than ever. The first date is set for 1 of September in Stockholm, Sweden. Six hours of old and new Visual Kei music, a Visual Kei outfit competition with an amazing prize sponsored by RarezHut, and the chance to hang out with over one hundred other fans of this increasingly rare style of music.
And while we hope that some of you might be able to attend this grand revival, we don't intend to limit our activities to Sweden, and would be glad to bring it wherever enough people who are interested might be located, mainly in Europe. So if you have any connections or ideas please feel free to message me and we'll see what can be done!
The clubs Facebook is located here:
https://www.facebook.com/KlubbLunacy/
And the event itself is located here:
https://www.facebook.com/events/1435508826514161/
Most posts have an English version after the Swedish text, so please scroll down if you want more info!
We're glad for any and all support we can get from you guys as we try to bring back some community and party to the fandom!
Also a special thanks to @orange~ who designed our logo!
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WhirlingBlack got a reaction from jaymee in MUCC new DVD and tribute album release !
I attended two of the shows on this old school tour in osaka and posted them on Facebook. Decides I might just as well repost them here:
Day 1:
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I just attended the best show of my life, and it was a MUCC live.
The best way I can describe it is as if I went back in a time machine to 2001 and attended one of their oneman lives. They performed only old songs, including tracks so old several fans noticably did not recognize then, like Kranke (my favorite song!) and Koibito. The entire live felt dangerous and rough, just like one of those 90s lives where the audience are headbanging their necks off and the band is taunting them further into a frenzy. Before VK became a polished business.
It was super intense, during some songs the entire audience was moshing and thanks to the intense mosh I ended up in the second row in front of tatsurou during the second half of the live, where I ended up catching him as he stage dived during Orugooru. At the end, when they played Kurutta Kajitsu, we were even ordered to perform a wall of death and delivered it splendidly.
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/mucc/2017/esaka-muse-osaka-japan-2be5b0e2.html
Tomorrow is Homura Uta day... can't wait. Dir en grey, take note. This is how you do nostalgia shows."
Day 2:
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So... MUCC day 2 was every bit as good as day 1. Homura Uta day, so practically the whole album was performed, along with some songs from Antique and Tsuuzetsu.
Especially the performance of Kimi ni Sachi Are and Kurayami ni Saku Hana stood out as soulcrushingly beautiful, and tracks like Kokuen made the whole audience mosh yet again while Tatsurou kept jumping into the front rows to make us work harder.
Before OYOGE! TAIYAKI-KUN Tatsurou addressed me directly, asking if I knew the lyrics (since I was seemingly the only foreigner at least in the front of the venue). I made an OK sign and he looked surprised and happy and made some comment about it, and then we all sang it together, the entire venue.
During the wall of death during Kurutta Kajitsu today, he jumped into the audience and participated for a bit before being rescued back onto the stage.
To be honest, unless MUCC makes further nostalgia tours, I might not attend any more of their lives in the future. Nothing can top this tour no matter how hard they try. Sure, I'd like to see a Zekuu and Kuchiki no Tou tour as well, but until that happens I might just lay off their lives in the future.
Todays Setlist:
HOMURA UTA (intro)
ZETSUBOU
SHIAWASE NO SHUUCHAKU
KOKUEN
YAKEATO
KARE GA SHINDA HI
KIMI NI SACHI ARE
MAMA
SHIGATSU NO RENGESOU
BOKU GA HONTOU NO BOKU NI TAEKIREZU TSUKUTTA HONTOU NO BOKU
KURAYAMI NI SAKU HANA
USO DE YUGAMU SHINZOU
KAERANU HITO
KOKONOKA
OYOGE! TAIYAKI-KUN
SUISOU
MAE E
SUIMIN
Encore:
YUME NO MACHI
SHOUFU
DAIKIRAI
KURUTTA KAJITSU (WARAI)"
Hope someone here finds it interesting to read!