Ro plz

I haven't listened to them in a while. Scandals happen and I tend to dip out of the fandom communities for a while then peek back in later. Very relieved to hear they're still putting out quality songs. This is a jam.
 
I've also been slightly distracted by 2pm's comeback. <3

Speaking up against someone acting like a jackass doesn't equal being close minded.
 
Just because you think something is funny doesn't mean others are close minded because they DON'T think it's funny.
 
BUT NOW ABOUT ACTUAL KPOP
 

 
BTS dropped the sickest album of the year in K-pop so far, ooooh man. Didn't really like most of their earlier material but this album was great.

Gangsta shows an effort and originality that I really feel was largely absent in their last batch of releases (excluding Bleach). The band actually used some kind of brain power while composing these songs and while, yes its not the greatest thing ever but its very noteworthy. The highlights that showed that for me were GESSHOKU, TOKYO GYPSY, and WELCOME TO THE UNDERGROUND. I found those particular tracks as well as a few others to be fun, right amount or heavy and melodic(...?). The last time I really felt that way about releases they dropped were Master of Romance and COLD BLOOD. It was also nice listening to Gangsta and not being able to say "oh that sounds a lot like" or "(insert band) did that already)."
I understand that a lot of people felt that this album was all over the place and repetitive at times but in hindsight, I could over look that and really appreciate it just for the simple fact that it sounds Genuine and not to try hard. Sorry, I tried not to repeat what I said in the review thread and be as clear as possible.

Gangsta shows an effort and originality that I really feel was largely absent in their last batch of releases (excluding Bleach). The band actually used some kind of brain power while composing these songs and while, yes its not the greatest thing ever but its very noteworthy. The highlights that showed that for me were GESSHOKU, TOKYO GYPSY, and WELCOME TO THE UNDERGROUND. I found those particular tracks as well as a few others to be fun, right amount or heavy and melodic(...?). The last time I really felt that way about releases they dropped were Master of Romance and COLD BLOOD. It was also nice listening to Gangsta and not being able to say "oh that sounds a lot like" or "(insert band) did that already)."
I understand that a lot of people felt that this album was all over the place and repetitive at times but in hindsight, I could over look that and really appreciate it just for the simple fact that it sounds Genuine and not to try hard. Sorry, I tried not to repeat what I said in the review thread and be as clear as possible.

while everyone is entitled to their opinion, and while the album may not be a grand ol stroll in the park, I think people are being a little immature and taking the bashing way out of hand. I'm not a Sadie fan, and I haven't listened to it yet, but I do respect that they have a following and that some people find it good music. By all means, give it a negative review, but anything beyond tasteful and professional word play just makes you look like an elitist douche who thinks your musical taste is superior to anyone who may like this album. 

This may be a bad example, but telling someone hey you're a little over weight, try some healthier options is a lot more respectable than saying, JESUS YOU FAT FUCK JUST KILL YOURSELF YOU WASTE OF SPACE. which is what I'm comparing all this bashing to. 

On top of that, a group effort to bash on a release does not make this forum look appealing for new potential members that may have great things and activity to contribute. 

So I guess all I have to say is, let's not waste so much energy hating on something you clearly dislike. You dislike it, great share that opinion and move on to something more enjoyable.
 
EDIT: this is not directed to any one person in particular, and those of you just speaking your mind, by all means keep up the good work. But if giving this album a bad review is the highlight of your week... I'm really sorry that you have nothing better to do. :'[

It all categorizes as metal at the end of the day. Honestly, tryna put bands into a specific category within metal is one of the most repetitive and annoying aspects within the community. At the end of the day, it all follows and classifies as things that anyone listening the first time will say its metal. No one ever wins with these conversations and threads/the main points of conversations are lost.
We all have differing opinions. Lets agree to disagree and drop it.

First and for most: Not listening to an album simply because of a title and majority negative reviews is different levels of stupid. And I'll leave it at that.
 
So I've made it through a good chunk of the album to give a solid review on the album. I will start off by saying this, I do agree that naming the album Gangsta was probably one of the dumbest decisions ever. I don't get any of that gangsta aspect or feel while listening to this release. Or maybe its so subtitle that It hasn't caught my attention. As far as the everything else goes, I do stand by my status update in which i stated this is a strong contender for one of the best albums this year. Why? The musicianship. I admit that this release as a whole isn't anything spectacular or uber amazing but that aspect is something that I appreciate a lot. Madrigal De Maria was literally Uroboros part 2 and The Black Diamonds  and BLEACH were just a compilation of crap songs with zero to no effort put in (besides ROSARIO). Gangsta sounds like the band actually enjoyed writing these songs and they don't feel forced or try hard-ish. 
 
This is the album that should have came after COLD BLOOD because COLD BLOOD was also a great example of SADIE just being original and doing their thing. Gangsta is what Beautiful Deformity is to the GazettE. A step back into doing what they can do and excelling at it. The sad part is that even though I enjoy this release, I know SADIE will disappoint with the next few releases after. They really are an inconsistent band that hasn't yet figured out how to progress properly...and they probably never will. However, I'm pleased with this release. 
 
7.5/10

This is what I'm talking about, this is what i like to hear from sadie. it's like The black diamonds with classic sadie riffs thrown it. the teruku rapping was a lil awkward but i don't mind. The electronic sounds were ok, didn't fuck anything up. better than MDM and other recent albums by other bands I've herd. bet it will better than meji's from how that single went. I'm now on good terms with sadie again. and YAY fuck dir en grey inspiration!
 
 
ok guys, when someone says jump, jump!

First and for most: Not listening to an album simply because of a title and majority negative reviews is different levels of stupid. And I'll leave it at that.
 
So I've made it through a good chunk of the album to give a solid review on the album. I will start off by saying this, I do agree that naming the album Gangsta was probably one of the dumbest decisions ever. I don't get any of that gangsta aspect or feel while listening to this release. Or maybe its so subtitle that It hasn't caught my attention. As far as the everything else goes, I do stand by my status update in which i stated this is a strong contender for one of the best albums this year. Why? The musicianship. I admit that this release as a whole isn't anything spectacular or uber amazing but that aspect is something that I appreciate a lot. Madrigal De Maria was literally Uroboros part 2 and The Black Diamonds  and BLEACH were just a compilation of crap songs with zero to no effort put in (besides ROSARIO). Gangsta sounds like the band actually enjoyed writing these songs and they don't feel forced or try hard-ish. 
 
This is the album that should have came after COLD BLOOD because COLD BLOOD was also a great example of SADIE just being original and doing their thing. Gangsta is what Beautiful Deformity is to the GazettE. A step back into doing what they can do and excelling at it. The sad part is that even though I enjoy this release, I know SADIE will disappoint with the next few releases after. They really are an inconsistent band that hasn't yet figured out how to progress properly...and they probably never will. However, I'm pleased with this release. 
 
7.5/10

First and for most: Not listening to an album simply because of a title and majority negative reviews is different levels of stupid. And I'll leave it at that.
 
So I've made it through a good chunk of the album to give a solid review on the album. I will start off by saying this, I do agree that naming the album Gangsta was probably one of the dumbest decisions ever. I don't get any of that gangsta aspect or feel while listening to this release. Or maybe its so subtitle that It hasn't caught my attention. As far as the everything else goes, I do stand by my status update in which i stated this is a strong contender for one of the best albums this year. Why? The musicianship. I admit that this release as a whole isn't anything spectacular or uber amazing but that aspect is something that I appreciate a lot. Madrigal De Maria was literally Uroboros part 2 and The Black Diamonds  and BLEACH were just a compilation of crap songs with zero to no effort put in (besides ROSARIO). Gangsta sounds like the band actually enjoyed writing these songs and they don't feel forced or try hard-ish. 
 
This is the album that should have came after COLD BLOOD because COLD BLOOD was also a great example of SADIE just being original and doing their thing. Gangsta is what Beautiful Deformity is to the GazettE. A step back into doing what they can do and excelling at it. The sad part is that even though I enjoy this release, I know SADIE will disappoint with the next few releases after. They really are an inconsistent band that hasn't yet figured out how to progress properly...and they probably never will. However, I'm pleased with this release. 
 
7.5/10

First and for most: Not listening to an album simply because of a title and majority negative reviews is different levels of stupid. And I'll leave it at that.
 
So I've made it through a good chunk of the album to give a solid review on the album. I will start off by saying this, I do agree that naming the album Gangsta was probably one of the dumbest decisions ever. I don't get any of that gangsta aspect or feel while listening to this release. Or maybe its so subtitle that It hasn't caught my attention. As far as the everything else goes, I do stand by my status update in which i stated this is a strong contender for one of the best albums this year. Why? The musicianship. I admit that this release as a whole isn't anything spectacular or uber amazing but that aspect is something that I appreciate a lot. Madrigal De Maria was literally Uroboros part 2 and The Black Diamonds  and BLEACH were just a compilation of crap songs with zero to no effort put in (besides ROSARIO). Gangsta sounds like the band actually enjoyed writing these songs and they don't feel forced or try hard-ish. 
 
This is the album that should have came after COLD BLOOD because COLD BLOOD was also a great example of SADIE just being original and doing their thing. Gangsta is what Beautiful Deformity is to the GazettE. A step back into doing what they can do and excelling at it. The sad part is that even though I enjoy this release, I know SADIE will disappoint with the next few releases after. They really are an inconsistent band that hasn't yet figured out how to progress properly...and they probably never will. However, I'm pleased with this release. 
 
7.5/10

First and for most: Not listening to an album simply because of a title and majority negative reviews is different levels of stupid. And I'll leave it at that.
 
So I've made it through a good chunk of the album to give a solid review on the album. I will start off by saying this, I do agree that naming the album Gangsta was probably one of the dumbest decisions ever. I don't get any of that gangsta aspect or feel while listening to this release. Or maybe its so subtitle that It hasn't caught my attention. As far as the everything else goes, I do stand by my status update in which i stated this is a strong contender for one of the best albums this year. Why? The musicianship. I admit that this release as a whole isn't anything spectacular or uber amazing but that aspect is something that I appreciate a lot. Madrigal De Maria was literally Uroboros part 2 and The Black Diamonds  and BLEACH were just a compilation of crap songs with zero to no effort put in (besides ROSARIO). Gangsta sounds like the band actually enjoyed writing these songs and they don't feel forced or try hard-ish. 
 
This is the album that should have came after COLD BLOOD because COLD BLOOD was also a great example of SADIE just being original and doing their thing. Gangsta is what Beautiful Deformity is to the GazettE. A step back into doing what they can do and excelling at it. The sad part is that even though I enjoy this release, I know SADIE will disappoint with the next few releases after. They really are an inconsistent band that hasn't yet figured out how to progress properly...and they probably never will. However, I'm pleased with this release. 
 
7.5/10

I am not trolling when I say GANGSTA just might be one of SADIE's BEST releases.
I'm like 6 songs in and I love it. I already know from listening to SADIE for years now that they aren't consistent and their albums go all over the place. The fact that I can sense some actual originality and little to no DIR EN GREY jacking is whats getting me. This is deadass a cool album so far.
WILL EDIT with a full review when I'm done listening.

Agreed. Having read through the thread, I was afraid I'd be the only one to say I didn't dislike it. Of course, there's a few songs I much prefer over others (TOKYO GYPSY is my favourite track and I have a thing for Engrish singing so GESSHOKU is fab xD) and I agree with the majority too when I say it's clearly not their best release. I haven't listened to all their songs, only most of their older songs once or twice, but overall, it just sounds like a change of style a bit and it's always a breath of fresh air when that happens with bands I think. As I quoted above from Hellion, it does sound like there is 'actual originality' in this piece compared to their other albums. Then again, I'll listen to literally anything and enjoy it! It's a fun album, it really is in my opinion. I guess another factor as to why I liked it was because I was prepared for the worst after having read comments and reviews of it hah. So yeah, I'm actually not disappointed since I was expecting, like, the worst. xD I keep repeating the opening, it's so funky and fun hah. This isn't a proper review lol sorry, just commenting as well. And I can agree with Furik about the 'misleading title.' Why GANGSTA, out of everything? Doesn't really fit the overall feel of the album I think.

Sadie has gone downhill after COLD BLOOD.
 
Red Line, The Black Diamonds (except for Rosario), MDM, Bleach are all horrible albums/EPs.
 
However, I will say that this album, while all over the place, is stylized like Master of Romance. To me, at least. Maybe it's the typical VK fashion, maybe it's Mao's voice, I don't know but from the start of Dead End, it's like Ice Romancer all over again. You didn't get that with Mukuro,The Requiem, any of those shitty songs.
 
Having said that, the album, as a whole is still inconsistent (no theme - why GANGSTA? what is the purpose of this album?, goes from rock to "metal" to jazz then back to rock then pop) and somewhat of a let-down. I have to agree with OP that the songs overstay their welcome.
 
It's not a bad album. It's not like MDM or The Black Diamonds. It's just.. a meh-album. I'm not sure if Sadie fans hate COLD BLOOD (I loved it) but it at least had an overall theme - it was (sorry) cold, dark and heavy. GANGSTA is a misleading title and the album covers look like sleazy tattoo art a chain-smoking single mother would get done on her lower back.
 
My review is just as complex as this album. I'll say it again - it's an alright album. Nothing spectacular but not that bad like their last group of albums and EPs. 
 
There are some highlights though - Gesshoku is in your face and amazing. The guitar work is amazing. A really great track. Tokyo Gypsy is a great track - it honestly sounds identical to older indie 2002 baroque - from Mao's singing to the guitar work. It's eerie. I think that's what I love it. 
 
That's all I can say. I don't want to think too hard on this album. It's just an alright album. Maybe 6/10? 7/10? It has replay value, even if the songs aren't memorable but still okay to listen to.

It all categorizes as metal at the end of the day. Honestly, tryna put bands into a specific category within metal is one of the most repetitive and annoying aspects within the community. At the end of the day, it all follows and classifies as things that anyone listening the first time will say its metal. No one ever wins with these conversations and threads/the main points of conversations are lost.
We all have differing opinions. Lets agree to disagree and drop it.

"Genre"'s in popular music are flimsy. Today, there is hardly a basis for taking Metal and breaking it into nearly 100 subgenres where as something so small as tempo or the level of distortion on a guitar can determine what "Genre" or "subgenre" a group falls into. If Djent is categorized by a sound modeled after Meshuggah, then it can be considered at the very least, a subgenre. Not considering it a genre, or a subgenre, is generally negative reaction at the recent influence Meshuggah has had on up-and-coming bands.

I think we all needed this...
 
I hate to say it but it was a bit Nostalgic seeing Kenta in a song with that much intensity again.

I think we all needed this...
 
I hate to say it but it was a bit Nostalgic seeing Kenta in a song with that much intensity again.

I think we all needed this...
 
I hate to say it but it was a bit Nostalgic seeing Kenta in a song with that much intensity again.

Can we talk about Kenta in this new Crystal Lake video tho? Because I needed this.
 

To me it seems as if its MONSTER part two but more ballsy. The guitar work is what really draws me to it and GO AHEAD is hauntingly scary and is the best song on the track because its raw and that breakdown is nuts. As far as the rest of the songs go, I will admit that I do see some repetitiveness going on but I can deal for the most part. My hope is the same hope that I have for the GazettE's upcoming releases (which Ruki did speak on recently btw) and that is that they grow and build up from what they are doing. This current era of GIRUGAMESH shows that they actually do know how to write music again and is pretty much done with all that poppy nonsense. I wanna see where it goes from here.

Tracklist has my attention. I think I read here that the new songs are being played with 6 Strings. This makes me happy. While I don't have an issue with 7 strings....ok,  I don't really like 7 strings lol. Its just cool that going back to the roots means they're going back to earlier style instruments.

To me it seems as if its MONSTER part two but more ballsy. The guitar work is what really draws me to it and GO AHEAD is hauntingly scary and is the best song on the track because its raw and that breakdown is nuts. As far as the rest of the songs go, I will admit that I do see some repetitiveness going on but I can deal for the most part. My hope is the same hope that I have for the GazettE's upcoming releases (which Ruki did speak on recently btw) and that is that they grow and build up from what they are doing. This current era of GIRUGAMESH shows that they actually do know how to write music again and is pretty much done with all that poppy nonsense. I wanna see where it goes from here.

To me it seems as if its MONSTER part two but more ballsy. The guitar work is what really draws me to it and GO AHEAD is hauntingly scary and is the best song on the track because its raw and that breakdown is nuts. As far as the rest of the songs go, I will admit that I do see some repetitiveness going on but I can deal for the most part. My hope is the same hope that I have for the GazettE's upcoming releases (which Ruki did speak on recently btw) and that is that they grow and build up from what they are doing. This current era of GIRUGAMESH shows that they actually do know how to write music again and is pretty much done with all that poppy nonsense. I wanna see where it goes from here.