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9 minutes ago, Furik said:

So, i'm very confused. Well, for one I am glad they have come out of the woodwork. But two, it states it's a YouTube Premium show.

As a Premium subscriber myself, I know there is YouTube Original content - like specials and shows.

But when it comes to concerts/livestream, you usually have to pay extra for them.

Like I watched a BTS concert over the summer and this month there's a BLACKPINK concert. And they are extra - additional charge.

 

So, unless it's not an actual scheduled livestream - they might just be uploading a pre-recorded live and then just marking it as a "YouTube Premium concert" that only Premium members get. I dunno. Knowing them, i'd just be surprised they aren't asking for money for this. 

Regardless i'll watch.

I think it's a pre recorded live, because when was the preview filmed? 

Does YouTube Premium have a free trial? I'm gonna cancel after the stream lol. 

8 minutes ago, platy said:

 

Gdi Retsu, when I suggested a livestream on YouTube, I didn't mean YouTube Premium lol.

4 hours ago, Saishu said:

I wouldn’t call it that, and I don’t think anyone else did either. 

I've seen some call it a deathcore/metalcore album and early Dimlim is called  a deathcore band,but even during the Issei era they weren't a pure deathcore band as they were too melodic,can't really call them metalcore either as they are too brutal lol.Dimlim is really just hard to categorize and it's easier to introduce them with the genre of the songs with mv's. 

23 hours ago, Saishu said:

It is. What’s Up? Is the only song on MISC that even approaches that label. The rest is just jangly alt rock. 

i wouldn't call Cheodora a deathcore album either (it has alt metal, metalcore, nu metal and jazzy elements). 

4 hours ago, benzaiten._ said:

I just came here to say: come on dimlim get a fucking bassist for christ's sake

Preferably a female bassist. 

1 hour ago, Kabukichoatmidnight said:

Well said and every post you've made here has been absolutely spot on. I agree we need to disagree and drop this now but after all this I find it completely bewildering we have one member who literally doesn't seem to be understanding anything anyone is saying and tbh their obsession with DIMLIM from what they've said here is a bit scary. So there's no point anyone saying anything if you don't think everything DIMLIM have done revolving the release of MISC and post has been anything short of incredible. Haha. 

 

As many have said, the change of musical style and look wasn't the problem for me either. Just a shame to see this band who were doing so well for themselves basically destroy themselves. I mean with the lack of activity and engagements of any kind they have no one to blame but themselves for people losing interest in them. And the comparisons to Dir en Grey changing styles are completely dumbfounded as yes, they changed styles, but they were also WAYYYYYY more popular after releasing their first album than DIMLIM have been in their entire career. Unless DIMLIM secretly did a sold out show on the release of VARIOUS or CHEDDAR no one has ever told me about?? Lol.

 

Funny it was mentioned that NAZARE show reports recently have claimed they weren't well attended.... I saw some clips Issei posted of drumcams during shows and was actually surprised how well attended they were considering the situation and the impending disbandment.... 😕 But ya know what, maybe NAZARE disbanding is DIMLIMs guardian angel, maybe Issei should come back and set Retsu and the lads straight and make them great again. Why not bring uta along for the ride as well? Haha.

I'm in for the music, as I said I don't care who Retsu blocked or who Sho dissed with his lyrics or how badly MISC was marketed,heck I'd probably turned on more new fans to MISC than the bands marketing lol.Sorry guys I've been heavily promoting the band in sns and I've read some positive response.On Spotify their listeners increased by 1k in a week after promoting them to Sokoninaru fans lel.

Edit: Is Issei's drum cam from a one man or taiban? Because I know they'd been doing some taiban's with Dexcore and the show report they didn't sell out was from a oneman. 

5 minutes ago, Kyo_Toriko said:

Started to follow DIMLIM since right from the start!
To be honest, I love them even after CHE DO A RA!
Especially I really enjoy MISC. because I like how progressive it is!
And I don't care about they dropped their VK side,
I just want to enjoy what they pull out!

Same, too bad some former fans are trying their best to pull them down. Someone in YT said he/she got blocked in Twitter because he/she inquired about releasing Various overseas, funny thing is I did the same and bugged Retsu about Emotions too, guess what,he didn't block me. Same person was also saying Ryuya and Taishi left because of money issues, but whem asked for a source, he/she couldn't give a direct one and became a he said she said to him/her rumour,and suddenly disappeared in YT. 

59 minutes ago, EvilHippy said:

Are here those who disliked brootal DIMLIM (with most of CHEDOARA), but got interested in the band after MISC?
Because right now there are a lot of users who made love with DIMLIM after CHEDOARA, but then ditched them next morning after seeing them without a makeup (MISC), but not the other way.

You wouldn't find them here though as they wouldn't be interested in vk but there are those that are open to music and only got interested in Dimlim after they ditched the makeup because some Jmusic fans don't take vk seriously (can be found in different FB J music groups.),and are new Dimlim fans because they now sound closer to Tricot and Sokoninaru lol. 

57 minutes ago, platy said:

It doesn't matter if they wanna leave vk, tons of previous vk acts have moved on outside the scene and been successful. Look at Miyavi, sure his music is questionable now but his roots were in vk and there's something special about that.  Most people here would've followed dimlim to hell and back, regardless if they carried on in vk or not.

 

The issue is that under RETSU's leadership, dimlim's reputation and image has been turned into a joke. They could've left vk and been signed under any number of other labels that would've managed their look/marketing/social media but, Mr Lets wants to be as true to his craft as possible by managing everything himself, including relations with fans (the very fans who keep this project going, who put food and clothes on their table). I don't think he has any previous experience with this and it shows. Seriously just look at what Issei did with NAZARE in less than a year, dimlim devolved violently when they had every reason to have surpassed NAZARE in popularity/numbers/whatever.

 

If you can't see what's wrong with those interview videos they released on youtube or with the lack of direction/communication that's going on currently, then I'm sorry but I can't spell it out for you more than it's already been done. I don't even know what you are arguing against/for anymore.

I dm'ed Retsu on his IG of any news on the band, less than a week later he post an IG story that Dimlim is working hard and a week later he posted another story of something is coming up soon.Yeah Issei is a better business man but regarding Nazare they are disbanding and from their thread I read a show report their latest one man shows are not selling well even with the covid restrictions.I figure Dimlim decided to take a rest or focus on songwriting instead of planning shows that may get postponed later on.Since Retsu assured the band is still alive and something is coming up let's wait any announcement before celebrating their disbandment lol. Btw weren't some fans wishing Retsu would shut up on sns and when he did ,some fans are getting annoyed they are too quiet? Lol.

Btw they are kinda replicating what Dir En Grey did and said when Diru quit vk,there just wasn't sns yet to block anyone lol. 

Regarding the marketing of MISC, yeah they were winging it and releasing info as soon as they got the info themselves. They were probably waiting for distribution news, whatever happened to their distributor, they might had decided print on demand on Amazon in the last minute. Delaying the album again would had been better though,but fans were getting impatient. They released the preview pf What's Up?! and full mv so close to the release of the album, ironically another Jband I follow outside vk released the first mv of their new album a week or 2 after the album was released lol. But they are on a major label so there were at least some miniscule marketing. 

On 11/9/2020 at 5:59 AM, platy said:

People in the thread don't hate dimlim, we want them to succeed because they showed some of the strongest potential we'd seen around in a stale scene. 

 

People are salty because dimlim are shooting themselves in the foot and fucking up what could've been fantastic for fans, the band and vk. 

From what I mentioned it's high possible that Retsu, Sho and maybe even Hiroshi got dissilussioned with the vk scene. Reading their JaME interview it just wasn't Retsu who wanted the style change like some fans are insisting.Could be the main reason Ryuya and Taishi left (or got kicked out), the remaining 3 members wanted out of the scene and wanted to change their style,and they have every right to do so as it's their band. 

1 minute ago, Komorebi said:

And as far as I've heard in Japan, they do not.

How the heck can they afford a rehearsal studio right now?And how can Retsu afford to go to nyc, if they don't have jobs, unless that tunecore money is flowing? Or Retsu is a rich kid who's been financing the band since they started out and how,as others alleged, he managed to kick Issei out of the band ,when Retsu is a nobody compared to D.I.D Issei. 

Just now, Komorebi said:

Jmetal girl bands are a different scene, we are talking VK/Male jrock here. Don't derail this to your convinience.

You said Jrock bands always go to Brazil.You didn't mention you only meant male or just vk bands lol. 

50 minutes ago, Kabukichoatmidnight said:

It freaks me out how much someone is so obsessive over defending a band that is basically already dead. I've given up basically as they clearly aren't taking notice of what anyone is actually saying and is turning every negative point into some convoluted sign that the band is still doing great and everything is perfect. It's legit pretty creepy.

 

+ I have an inkling that this member is someone who has posted in this forum using a different username and come under fire from other members several times in other threads for the same kind of thing. haha. + + That member was also obsessed with Retsu/DIMLIM so it's hardly far out that this is the same person. lol.

Why would you care what I think of the band? Why are you also forcing me to have the same views as others to dislike the band? Did Retsu blocked you too in Twitter? Lol. 

Btw I don't care who Retsu blocked on Twitter, who Sho dissed with his lyrics on MISC,from what I've seen on YT they were really a boring band live even when Ryuya and Taishi were still in the band something they have to improve lol. I like the band.Btw why are there many former fans who hates the band now very active on their thread?lol 

1 hour ago, Komorebi said:

That is because barely any jrock bands are touring overseas these past few years. Whenever one DOES go abroad, Brazil is a sure stop.

I can confirm Brazil is definitely not a sure stop in the girls Jmetal scene whenever they tour abroad, it's just Mexico in SA.

1 hour ago, zaa_zaa said:

It's not an achievement for a Japanese act to have a sold out in Brazil.

First of all, Brazil is a go-to place for Japanese bands to go abroad along with SA - Jupiter is a recent example, Deathgaze made their last oneman tour in SA as well, and plenty of other bands. And plenty of non-vk bands go there as well.

Secondly, one has to take into consideration the size of the venue. AFAIR, they weren't even remotely big.

Thirdly, many people connected to the scene in some way would go to almost any show just because it's a scene band (assuming that they can afford the tickets). Don't forget that SA is a home for the majority of gaijin-kei bands.

 

Futhermore, one Mexican venue sold like 20 tickets total and had to cancel the show?

 

With Russia - the venue in Moscow is extremely small, I would say it could handle around 100 people max. And not so many tickets were sold within the first month according to my knowledge. As for them going to Irkutsk - this move reeks of desperation, because the organizer is a huuuuge Dimlim bangya based on her social networks.

 

The point is as follows - Dimlim are not popular abroad whatsoever. Dude, even Nocturnal Bloodlust at their peak couldn't get many people to their gigs in Europe and many j-rock bands do not tour in Europe because it doesn't make sense economically. The only place that bands go to semi-regularely is SA, but it's only because they have some fandom there. And even Dimlim sold like 20 tickets in Mexico, lmfao.

That's kinda weird because I was talking to some Brazilian fans in the girls Jmetal scene a couple of months ago and they said barely any Japanese bands go there and was surprised Dimlim will be playing  a show there.And they do try to get updated on any J band going there.

1 hour ago, nekkichi said:

rijin has 300 k and vanitas stands at 650k (provided they didn't buy any), nothing about their MISC phase indicates growth

I appreciate your consistent clowning here tho

What's Up?! is closing in to Rijin and Rijin had a 6-7 months head start lol.Ironically you pretty much dislike the band now but surprisingly you are very active in their thread lel. 

1 hour ago, seys said:

Is Lets from Damlam the vkei villain of the year?

Still Masa and Hiro of NB? Lol. Some are just salty Retsu blocked them on Twitter lol. 

3 hours ago, Duwang said:

Of course, but that doesnt mean Retsu doesnt have a say in what the song is about and I'd say that was definitely the case because the lyrics are quite different than what Sho usually writes.

At this point Retsu is driving the car and Sho and Hiroshi are in the back seat. Sho doesn't even know when the band has a live. His band mates call him up the day before to remind him. Do you really think he's the one calling the shots lol

The entirely of MISC lyrics are very different than before. What's Up aside, most of the lyrics are positive or hopeful, it's like Sho is in love lol. From the JaME interview, I figure while Retsu calls the majority of the shots, Sho doesn't sound just like a puppet and was very active in that interview which was surprising.It seems he and Retsu was in agreement while they were writing What's Up?!. Anyway, the lyrics of What's Up?!  doesn't even sound like a huge diss (compared to NB's Thank You).

35 minutes ago, Saishu said:

The piracy rants were weird as shit, because Retsu was mostly mad about people uploading songs from Kidoairaku and it wasn’t until a few months ago that it became commercially available 

That wasn't weird because it can affect future live limited releases when fans realize they can pirate it anyway and those buying multiple copies to resell would think twice if they can't sell their extra copies at twice the price lol. Japan also takes piracy seriously, there had been arrest there for persons uploading manga and anime content illegally online. Japanese major labels has been waging war on illegal uploads on YT for years.Masa of NB also said the same thing Retsu said a few years ago.

2 hours ago, Duwang said:

I don't know about the entire album, but I'm pretty sure What's Up was written about my friend. Her critical tweets really seemed to have struck Retsu's nerves considering he cried about it on instagram stories after blocking her, saying that the band doesn't want to listen to anyone's opinions and that he was going to quit social media (which clearly didn't happen, unfortunately)

?Sho writes the bands lyrics not Retsu.

1 hour ago, Komorebi said:

Bored and liveless when I saw them at a 3man last November. No passion on stage. 

I'm confused about this.A post a couple of pages back with a show report from a Japanese friend of a member here saying the opposite,with Sho supposedly hitting his mic on his head and was doing great as a frontman and the backtracked bass and guitar sounded great.Even had a couple seconds of clips that says otherwise that the band has no passion and the crowd looked like they were having fun and full of energy.

NVM the show report and clips were from their Dec show.

3 hours ago, nekkichi said:

they have one mathrock stan (that's you.) their other 9 former stans are in this thread. all other fans were blocked by retsu on twitter. if you do the math you'll see the 90:10 ratio I'm talking about!!

I love What's Up?! but honestly I didn't watch it's mv 283k times lol

11 minutes ago, seys said:

@Duwang Just curious, what did the band look like during the lives?

There are fancams on YT of 2 full sets from 2018 and some songs from 2019,when Ryuya and Taishi were still in the band.Retsu has always been boring to watch since he majorly plays lead guitar,Sho never really moved around that much while singing or growling except for the occasional headbanging during breakdowns.

Now I think Retsu (and Sho) got disillusioned with vk,they intentionally wrote a math rock album and blocked old fans to weed out vk fans lol.There was this interview where both he and Sho dissed other modern vk bands and Ryuya was no comment, when the interviewer asked why the band didn't invite vk bands in a taiban they organized lol.

12 minutes ago, nekkichi said:

 

 

dimlim base is literally 90 % vk 10 % jindie even if the latter part currently looks deceivingly more active because vk stans stopped caring.

 

the numbers never went up and retsu won't pull this band out of whatever state it is in alone x

Where's your source of these numbers? If you can't give one, then it's also all speculation on your part.