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He’s too busy pandering, Toshi is now covering anime song to keep the paycheck in.
 
 

Wtf, just wtf. What kind of weird anime crossover is this?

Chilling out with his "dear friend" Obama in San Francisco.

I thought it would be easier to pretend to not give a f*ck about Yoshiki's last random socialite shenaningans if we collect them in one single topic (so we also don't spam the forum with a new thread for each appearance.)
 
 
In the previous episodes our posponing antihero was spotted trying to strangle the Queen of England with his scarf

 
 
And trying to marry into the royal family.
 

 
 
Where will he go next and what will he do to not realease the new album he absolutely did complete (cross on his heart)?

é aquele que uma guria fala "O mundo gira, o mundo gira, o mundo gira"? kjkkkk

kkkk Esse vídeo era sensacional

ÉEEEEEEEE KKKKKKKK quanto mais eu lembro só melhora pqp   

Rules kkkkkkkk 
 
Se tem um treco que me causa arrependimento neste sentido é não ter salvo em nenhum lugar o video daquela vez em que o Miyavi veio ao Brasil em 2008 e o Bom Dia SP fez uma matéria com os jovens na fila. Um verdadeiro clássico, rodei a internet toda procurando o vídeo e sumiu mesmo. Saudoso... 
 
Jornalista: e vocês sabem cantar em japonês? 
Jovens: sabemos sim oh quer ver? MAWARU MAWARU SEKAI GA MAWHJIJDKLFS FKGSRIVC IHFLFSEKVCP 
 
Um Clássico sério. 

Rules kkkkkkkk 
 
Se tem um treco que me causa arrependimento neste sentido é não ter salvo em nenhum lugar o video daquela vez em que o Miyavi veio ao Brasil em 2008 e o Bom Dia SP fez uma matéria com os jovens na fila. Um verdadeiro clássico, rodei a internet toda procurando o vídeo e sumiu mesmo. Saudoso... 
 
Jornalista: e vocês sabem cantar em japonês? 
Jovens: sabemos sim oh quer ver? MAWARU MAWARU SEKAI GA MAWHJIJDKLFS FKGSRIVC IHFLFSEKVCP 
 
Um Clássico sério. 

I came back to see if anyone was discussing the subject further and I realized a I got plenty of reactions, and am finding it kind of funny, so maybe I should explain my point a bit further because it all seemed like a big wall of text without a clear point. I really wasn't saying a lot though, I just ended up addressing different replies without quoting.  
 
All I really wanted to say is, from the point of view of someone who really liked j-rock and despised k-pop for the better part of their lives, you can't really deny that there's always (and by always I mean in the last 20-something years of course because K-pop didn't exist before nor had Korea been too influenced by the US) been some degree of cultural overlap or influencing because that's what pop culture worldwide always does, and it's not really fair to compare or put one against the other as if they're Polar Opposites In A War because it's quite out of context, it's just not how it works. I mean, media and cultural industries do run deeper than that.
 
So Japan started embracing Korea and Korean products because of dramas, AFAIK, and games and manhwa kind of found their way as counterparts (almost counterfeits, really) to whatever Japan had been doing ages before, before K-pop music emerged as one more kind of product. No real artistic appeal, but I did listen to Japanese music way back when BoA started becoming really popular. Japan was all over Namie Amuro or Ayumi Hamasaki and all of a sudden there were (the half-American) Utada Hikaru and BoA in the spotlight as well. And SME was pretty keen on exporting their artists since H.O.T. so after BoA kind of managed to Be It they made TVXQ debut alongside with her. And this is where the MV of Tri-Angle which I mentioned before kicks in. I'm no expert but I believe Japan had been exporting a lot of pop culture to SK for years and that was more a reply. Which was... quite a thing. And by thing I mean quite a cultural appropriation as the kids of nowadays would put. (Final Fantasy? Visual kei? You decide.)
 
 
And it worked, lol, because soon enough (the fandom of TVXQ which was quite hugeee in Japan) Cassiopeia was formed, SNSD and SuJu (and Big Bang, etc) were pretty popular overseas as well and that's when the whole Hallyu 2.0 thing kicked in. So basically SK was just trying to export stuff - really, trying hard, because being so closely dominated by US and Japan-originated products Probably Sucks - and that's how we ended up with the most seemingly random but not really mix of cultural influences in k-pop. Because it worked, it sold, and yeah. Cue seemingly out-of-place Pocky/Pepero game levels of fanservice, colorful hairstyles and clear imitations of whatever j-pop boy/girlgroups were doing. And because there's always been this kind of insurgence of j-rock in j-pop music as well, it's thrown in the mix somehow.
 
So when I did that video, it was more as a joke because I ... kind of started digging deeper for j-rock/visual kei music after years of just listening to ONE OK ROCK or whatever was "pop j-rock" at the time, and I was talking to a friend and we were like, oh, ok, it's definitely being influenced the other way around now. Understandably so, especially because since k-pop made successful breakthroughs into the US market and, with it being the biggest music (actually, general pop culture) market/export in the world, of course it's a huge influence to Japan as well. So we were kidding about how even visual kei PVs nowadays sometimes looked less like 2000s or 90s visual kei PVs and more like k-pop MVs, although they're still distinguishable to the non-casual viewer (but yeah, if you go solely by commonplace stereotypes like "k-pop artists don't create songs/play instruments", "k-pop has no Japanese language music", "k-pop has no foreigners", "K-pop is cuter", "but fanservice" "but makeup" etc... you're just prone to go wrong). As I was saying, pop cultures in general do overlap always, regardless of nationality. That's characteristic of, well, pop culture in a globalized world. But that's really as far as my enlightenment goes, lol.
 
And then you have the western fans of Asian music whose preferences seemed to change, not so much because it did change, much more so because of the shift in East Asian music market and accessibility (I remember it was super hard finding subbed Korean videos back in 2008 so I was much more a NEWS fan than a TVXQ one, although I listened to both - but nowadays it's harder to find Johnnys videos because they're all taken down LOL) and promotion, stuff like that.
 
What you subjectively make out of this is just what you make out of this, bro. I literally don't think I can delve any deeper than this.
 

Commenting a bit on what was discussed here. Just my two cents, aight. Or, uh, a lot of cents. Sorry I'm terrible at Explaining.

I don't know, I think the otaku/anime/manga fan crowd is actually quite keen on keeping up with Japan's youth, and Japan's youth has been listening a lot to K-pop too. I don't see a necessary overlap in fandom, but yes, there are people who like both. Although I think the cultural ties to these two as well as, say, AKB48 - idols, of course - sees reflexion in anime fandom as the plethora of idol anime/mobage products (started with Love Live and IM@S newer spinoffs, also UtaPri and now its Enstars, HypMic, Bandori, Dreaming!, Idolish7 ...), doesn't mean they enjoy the 3DPD idols of k-pop lol. Also, for international fans, k-pop is way more accessible than Japanese music nowadays. It's in every streaming platform, every twitter handle, every magazine, you don't even have to saerch. It's so easy to stumble into it so while back then people knew about K-pop because of Japanese music, now it's much more the other way around. I think most of the k-pop crowd - as part of it myself - is either like, 20%ish people on their 20s or maybe 30s who were formerly fans of Asian music in general (me!) and/or younger people who had incursions because of East Asian ancestry, and a majority of teens who are into k-pop because of YouTube and/or BTS or any overlap of these two. But yes, I definitely think that with k-pop being way more accessible - and presenting the same sort of "we are anime boys" fantasy that vk did a decade ago - it's not really surprising that some people who want to get a feel of East Asian culture are into it nowadays. Speaking of which, I grew up (in the 2000s) listening to a lot of Japanese music and watching anime and stuff, but even before BoA I've always been pretty immersed in SK culture as well because of MMOs so maybe this isn't even such a new trend. The media and pop cultures do overlap a lot at times. (*cough* do you know Tri-Angle *cough*)
 
I also realized a lot of people who were dragged into K-pop through East Asian music market in general had a few favorite songs/groups - or even one favorite in particular - but since Korean TV shows love to mix the groups they end up discovering other acts and becoming a fan as well - I know that is my case since I used to say I hate k-pop for a good 6 years from 2009 to 2015. Speaking of cultural interchanging I think the most extreme of k-pop fans - at least in my experience since I am always biting my own tail by saying I don't like rap and proceeding to be a fan of every group with 3+ rappers in the market but maybe that's because they actually do rap and not just digdigdoo their way through the annoyingly obligatory rap sequence  - actually end up listening to black music because that's what their idols are listening to, which I found so funny.
 
Lastly, I have to disagree that k-pop sounds like Western music. I think the Apop market specifically has been pretty weak since, uh, probably the decline of Lady Gaga and the crash of Disney stars and you don't see such bubblegummy pop songs so much anymore even among artists who excelled at it before (like, say, Katy Perry or Jessie J) ; people who still do it, like, say, Carly Rae Jepsen are pretty much adored, but it's somehow not the trend anymore I think? So back then I thought that Apop was in many ways superior to kpop, but I don't think so anymore, not to my tastes at least - sometimes I'm listening to the radio and I'm happy when BTS comes up because this is the bubblegummy happy song I want. And you know what I mean when I say all k-pop sounded like uh fantastic baby naega jail jam nagagagagaga. (Also, I was talking to an online friend who happened to go through the same ~stages of Asian music~ as myself and we did notice a trend of, sometimes girl groups doing better and sometimes boy groups doing better. I think it was definitely like, -06 for bgs, 07-10 for ggs, 11-14 for bgs, 15-17 for ggs and now we're having a bg era again, or something to that effect, and she agreed with me.)
 
But yeah, it's no metal nowadays either.
 
Also, to whoever asked about other genres of music in the Korean market, Korean music isn't just k-pop (surprisingly, not really, as the same applies to music in pretty much uh every country) and personally I listen to a lost of other artists, from Alice Vicious to Norazo to Guckkasten to Epik High. They're just, well, not k-pop which is a very specific market with very specific rules. Another important thing to note is that most times these idols are basically trained - not for cheap - by the companies behind them, and they don't always follow their careers so closely and teens are left on their own to produce stuff. Not saying this happens to the biggest of them, but smaller companies? Definitely. And sometimes they end up spewing dumb racist/homophobic bullshit thinking it's cool, but it's not happening so much nowadays.
 
I also think this shift from people from, say, Japanese music to k-pop has something to do with the decline of Being an emo kid is cool culture because, lol, music that actually hits your soul and makes you think about life? Pfft, let's go for the bubblegummy songs that promote sex exploitation, it's much better this way. I think it is just this global culture shift.  
 
So to me saying yes, VK and K-pop are similar because they're both music for fans of music, and it happens to be East Asian music! is the same as saying yeah, if you like Jay Z you'll probably like Billie Eilish because they're both American and seeking fans!, which is kind of... no. In many ways it's not similar. I think the shift is because of cultural changes and accessibility much more than because humans all of a sudden can't distinguish intricate music from pop music anymore.
 
But yes, of course the "we look like anime boys with our perfect makeup and cool blue hair, please love us" aesthetic of k-pop is a thing that drags young people into it into k-pop, but I guess the same could be said for, like, hip youtubers. You can't really avoid the aesthetic of things, I guess. Says the grown up woman who has a picture of candy floss-haired k-pop boy on her profile picture. But take me as you will really. Funnily, I can say I am much more appreciative of vk for the aesthetics it presents - not just "oh, ok, it's hot boys and I can ship them!" but I mean the actual aesthetic in the sense of the culture/semiology it expresses - than I am of k-pop for these reasons. I swear I do not care for 17 year old girls being kawaii ( but man, I love some of the songs they have! Very Very Very is Astounding! Lipstick is Excellent! Likey is Quintessential! Russian Roulette is Classic! Bboom Bboom is Amazing! ) nor am I particularly interested in 20 year old boys flexing their excessively worked out abs - I honestly think of how bad their health must be before I can even try to appreciate the abs - but still I love some of the music they have. (FYI, my favorites don't fall into either, for the most part. I'm always with the kawaii boys crowd or the WAHRGAH ANGRY boys crowd lol.) 
 
I recently had my first few experiences actually being to k-pop concerts and ... suffice to say I had such a blast I'm actually considering to do research on it now. I'm a psychologist and happen to study cultural industries and workers health, and was precisely seeking a topic for my masters and I'm really considering dropping everything I had planned to do in order to delve into this phenomenon which I find to be the prime example of pop Asian music market being a lot more about visuals and the boyfriend experience than music lol. ("Are you trying to find an excuse to go to concerts more often?" Precisely.)

Tl;dr: woman tried to enjoy k-pop but failed miserably in  her teens, now is a graduated and practicing psychologist, sees all the problems with the industry but still can't help but be supportive of her fav k-pop boys, still unsure if it does more good or harm to them.
 
As a footnote ... I did this thing a while back but never posted so here it is. It's just for fun but it really makes you think of what has become of the remnants of the VK scene and how cultures just overlap.
 
 

グラビティ↗︎↗︎楽しさFULLVOLTAAAGE!!! (Gravity) new maxi-single (title not yet finalized) will  be released at 2020/01/07 (2 types)
 
TYPE A (1980yen) will include CD+DVD
TYPE B (1320yen) will include CD only

Wake up, do stuff, get angry at stuff, read documentation/book, get back to doing said stuff, desperately searching stackoverflow/mdn/microsoft docs, take break, start from scratch with like two extra lines of code and shit works, create myself another problem, rinse & repeat. Hey, at least I'm learnding 🙃.
 

I feel u sm brah, I actually decided to cosplay as Amy Rose this year even though I haven't really played a Sonic game in ages for precisely this reason. Iirc my first online nickname was actually Amy Rose lol it's something that never fails to bring me a sense of familiarity and joy as well. I'm not good with words but do I get what you mean. 
 
 
 
 

I was recently reminded of how much I liked Genkai Haretsu and it's one of those things I remember every 3 years and wonder if it really was that good and am always reminded that yes it was, So I am listening to all of Psyence this time and yeah ... it blows. I am his newest fan and this is my newest favorite album  
 
 
 

HAHAH eu te entendo tantooo!! Eu já conhecia vk e tinha amigos que adoravam Malice Mizer, Gackt (o maldito Vanilla.mp3 do MSN plus), X, L'Arc etc mas não curtia muito além de umas 2 ou 3 músicas antes de me apaixonar por Nightmare. Uma amiga estava curtindo Death Note na mesma época, a gente começou a trocar figurinhas e quando nos demos conta já tínhamos virado conhecedoras não só das músicas obscuras como também dos varieties e entrevistas hahah bons tempos!
 
Apesar de que naquela época eu adorava Nightmare mas não escutava lançadas de vk em geral... era muito trabalhoso evitar o que não era simplesmente moleques berrando tentando ser coolzões... Pra mim realmente houve uma melhora na qualidade técnica das bandas independentes em geral e também houve uma facilidade em acessar as músicas por meio do youtube e tal, em comparação a baixar na internet discada.

I came back to see if anyone was discussing the subject further and I realized a I got plenty of reactions, and am finding it kind of funny, so maybe I should explain my point a bit further because it all seemed like a big wall of text without a clear point. I really wasn't saying a lot though, I just ended up addressing different replies without quoting.  
 
All I really wanted to say is, from the point of view of someone who really liked j-rock and despised k-pop for the better part of their lives, you can't really deny that there's always (and by always I mean in the last 20-something years of course because K-pop didn't exist before nor had Korea been too influenced by the US) been some degree of cultural overlap or influencing because that's what pop culture worldwide always does, and it's not really fair to compare or put one against the other as if they're Polar Opposites In A War because it's quite out of context, it's just not how it works. I mean, media and cultural industries do run deeper than that.
 
So Japan started embracing Korea and Korean products because of dramas, AFAIK, and games and manhwa kind of found their way as counterparts (almost counterfeits, really) to whatever Japan had been doing ages before, before K-pop music emerged as one more kind of product. No real artistic appeal, but I did listen to Japanese music way back when BoA started becoming really popular. Japan was all over Namie Amuro or Ayumi Hamasaki and all of a sudden there were (the half-American) Utada Hikaru and BoA in the spotlight as well. And SME was pretty keen on exporting their artists since H.O.T. so after BoA kind of managed to Be It they made TVXQ debut alongside with her. And this is where the MV of Tri-Angle which I mentioned before kicks in. I'm no expert but I believe Japan had been exporting a lot of pop culture to SK for years and that was more a reply. Which was... quite a thing. And by thing I mean quite a cultural appropriation as the kids of nowadays would put. (Final Fantasy? Visual kei? You decide.)
 
 
And it worked, lol, because soon enough (the fandom of TVXQ which was quite hugeee in Japan) Cassiopeia was formed, SNSD and SuJu (and Big Bang, etc) were pretty popular overseas as well and that's when the whole Hallyu 2.0 thing kicked in. So basically SK was just trying to export stuff - really, trying hard, because being so closely dominated by US and Japan-originated products Probably Sucks - and that's how we ended up with the most seemingly random but not really mix of cultural influences in k-pop. Because it worked, it sold, and yeah. Cue seemingly out-of-place Pocky/Pepero game levels of fanservice, colorful hairstyles and clear imitations of whatever j-pop boy/girlgroups were doing. And because there's always been this kind of insurgence of j-rock in j-pop music as well, it's thrown in the mix somehow.
 
So when I did that video, it was more as a joke because I ... kind of started digging deeper for j-rock/visual kei music after years of just listening to ONE OK ROCK or whatever was "pop j-rock" at the time, and I was talking to a friend and we were like, oh, ok, it's definitely being influenced the other way around now. Understandably so, especially because since k-pop made successful breakthroughs into the US market and, with it being the biggest music (actually, general pop culture) market/export in the world, of course it's a huge influence to Japan as well. So we were kidding about how even visual kei PVs nowadays sometimes looked less like 2000s or 90s visual kei PVs and more like k-pop MVs, although they're still distinguishable to the non-casual viewer (but yeah, if you go solely by commonplace stereotypes like "k-pop artists don't create songs/play instruments", "k-pop has no Japanese language music", "k-pop has no foreigners", "K-pop is cuter", "but fanservice" "but makeup" etc... you're just prone to go wrong). As I was saying, pop cultures in general do overlap always, regardless of nationality. That's characteristic of, well, pop culture in a globalized world. But that's really as far as my enlightenment goes, lol.
 
And then you have the western fans of Asian music whose preferences seemed to change, not so much because it did change, much more so because of the shift in East Asian music market and accessibility (I remember it was super hard finding subbed Korean videos back in 2008 so I was much more a NEWS fan than a TVXQ one, although I listened to both - but nowadays it's harder to find Johnnys videos because they're all taken down LOL) and promotion, stuff like that.
 
What you subjectively make out of this is just what you make out of this, bro. I literally don't think I can delve any deeper than this.
 

Eu comecei com Nightmare, ahaha! (obviamente Death Note etc)
Eu curti as músicas e pensei "hmmm, será que no Japão eles fazem músicas sem ser pra anime?" HSUAIHDIUASDHUASD
Peguei o "the WORLD Ruler" e ouvi em loop infinitas vezes, aí começou a desgraça... sahuidhiausdh ❤️

Bem vindo ~ ♥ 
 
Eu só era fã Mesmo na adolescência de Nightmare e Miyavi e eventualmente escutava coisa ou outra de outros artistas, minha paixão por vk começou meio tarde então sou super deslocada aqui. Mas boas vindas pelo que vale hahah 

OI PESSOAS ❤️

Eu tô surtando que vocês tão firmes e fortes nessa solidão IRL que é gostar de VK ahsduiahusidasd (pelo menos a minha adolescência foi bem solitária taokei mas tinha o DEUS DELKMIROPH PRA AMAR VIA MSN BONS TEMPOS DELK TE AMO)

Eu tô fazendo o meu 「REVIVAL」 pessoal e re:ouvindo tudo, impossível largar nsjnsjgnsjgnasd ❤️

I've gotta say out of all things that un-ironically make me genuinely happy is, Sonic The Hedgehog. Even being a huge fan Im not exactly sure what draws me in, maybe it's the lush world, the dynamics between characters or just the general light hearted feel overall. Im such a huge baby but whatever, the games themselves whilst, not always are the best, can have fun in them of course. Whilst that amount of fun can vary for different folks, theres even a shred of enjoyment to be had. The Characters dynamics with each other is also something very endearing. The way Sonic's cocky, heroic attitude meshes with Tails's kind, good boy demeanor makes me smile like a doof. I love their friendship and the character arc for Tails that he can't always depend on Sonic because there are times when Sonic can't be there and that's something I really appreciate  cause not all best buddy/sidekick dynamics are given that arc. I love that Shadow, given how much his past sucked, was able to let go and move on for the sake of his future. Even though his amnesia wasn't handled in the best way..because people could've honestly told him about his past but looking back on it now, it kinda makes sense that no one told him given how things went aboard the ARK it seems like that subject is a bit...heavy to explain to him that everyone he cared about were wiped out because of his development and existence along with the fact that amnesia is not cured just by simply listening to what someone tells you. The Soundtracks for the Sonic games are something I give credit for my love of multiple genres of music. The most Notable ones being, 
 
-Planetary Pieces (Sonic Unleashed OST)
-Digi Log Conversation (Sonic Adventure OST)
-Shooting Star Story (Sonic Riders ZG OST)
-Complete Trinity (Sonic Heroes OST)
-Multi-Dimensional (Sonic Adventure 2 OST)
-Lost and Found (Shadow The Hedgehog OST)
-Speedbeats Grand Prix (Sonic Riders OST)
-VIVID SOUND X HYBRID COLORS (Sonic Colors OST)
-Original Groove Rush(Sonic Rush OST)
 
I recommend some if not all of these soundtracks, i feel like theres something for everyone in them from Industrial Metal to Smooth Jazz, to some cheesy Vocal tracks that have that corny charm to them that'll have you singing along after the first listen or two. For me, everything about this series, flaws and all genuinely bring a type of weightlessness to my chest that I'd only be able to attain through narcotic sedation. I definitely cannot wait for the new Movie, they have my boi looking absolutely adorable. ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

this song slaps tbh. I love it.

Well, I don't know if is this kind of thing that you guys are searching for, but I have an youtube variety channel focused on Visual Kei:
 
https://bit.ly/2NIzKtX
 
We started this channel because we couldn't find a channel like we wanted (with content about vk that wasn't just reacts).
We are always trying to bring new things: news, discussions, reviews, curiosities, and even a little bit of Japanese culture and language.
VK Onee San is still in it's beginning, but if you guys can subscribe and like the videos, we will grow and make things more interesting.

There's Shotayan who I watch occasionally. Although he doesn't often mention any specific bands he definitely has some v-kei related content and he used to play guitar in a band (アンフェイト, Unfate). The only downside is that it's all in Japanese so it's a bit more exclusive. Luckily there's lots of subtitles and he's easy to understand so as long as you have some Japanese knowledge you should be fine.
https://youtu.be/p5EGJPDJDec

I agree with you here to an extent. I do think there are functional and dysfunctional ways to raise children and i'm all for informing others on what's healthy and functional, but here's why I think it's no one's business: we simply do not know enough details to judge the matter. Everyone is in an uproar over a soundbite, essentially. We don't know the relationship that T.I. has with his daughter. We don't know anything about their family, their dynamics, or their history. We don't know his daughter's perspective and we barely know anything about T.I.'s perspective. outside of a 15 sec. audio clip. So everyone is making assumptions based on very limited information. Not a wise thing to do in my opinion.
 
I do think that T.I. may have made a mistake by making this public knowledge. But who knows? Maybe it's not a mistake? Maybe the discussions that have spawned out of this are conversations that need to be had?
 
 
This really depends on how you view family, fatherhood, and sex. I can't speak for T.I., but I can tell you that from a Hebraic/Biblical perspective, a daughter is supposed to remain under the protection/covering of her father until she is married, and then she becomes her husband's responsibility. And this has nothing to do with trying to control women, or women being "weak" or "helpless" - certainly not -  it's about protecting that which is valuable. Sex outside of marriage is also viewed as dysfunctional, because it doesn't serve any sustainable purpose and the harm it causes is not worth the pleasure of a 15-second orgasm.
 
Personally, I subscribe to the Hebraic worldview simply because it's functional and it emphasizes unity, harmony, and peace. I've experienced and observed in horror how ideas like feminism/the "independent woman" and unbridled sex have absolutely decimated black families and given rise to nothing but division,chaos, confusion, and pain. Those aren't the only culprits, but they are major contributors. Before blacks started adopting these ideologies, our families were generally intact. Not only does history clearly illustrate this, but almost every black woman I know that was alive before these ideologies started taking root tells me the same thing: "we didn't need no damn feminism". Why? Because the black man and woman worked together, and black men were not lording over their women. Black women did not feel oppressed by their men. The oppression and racism black ppl faced was much more overt back in those days, so we worked together and relied on one another. Because we're all we had. And we realized the strength that came from family and unity. Feminism was largely a movement headed by white women that eventually recruited black women, much to our demise.
 
(note: when I say "independent woman" - i'm referring to the notion that black women (or women in general) don't need a man, because that's destructive. there's absolutely nothing wrong with women being autonomous and being able to fend for themselves tho. in fact, women should be able to. but as i stated earlier, the notion that men and women don't need each other is antithetical to life itself).
 
But I digress. I'm not sure how T.I. views things, but If I were as famous and rich as he is, I'd probably be overprotective too.
 
 
You're not being hostile and and I don't feel attacked at all! I'm just glad that you're willing to discuss and share your opinion. Discussions like this can get pretty intense and heavy, so I have nothing but respect for you for engaging with me in a mature manner and speaking your mind! That's a very brave thing to do, especially on the internet where you have cowards that would sooner attack ppl for having different opinions or go talk shit in private amongst a bunch of yes-men like hoe-ass simps instead of just addressing people directly. Believe it or not, you've got more balls than a lot of grown-ass men . But yeah, Gesu, I got nothing but love for ya!
 
And I feel where you're coming from. I do think we have to have a critical eye towards our past generations, as to learn from their mistakes and not continue to reproduce their dysfunction. But I also think it's wise to take into consideration advice and admonishment from older generations too.
 
Personally, I remember being a kid and pretty much hating my dad. I disagreed with a lot of his ways well into my adulthood. But now as i've gotten older myself, and as i've been seeking to take on a lot of the same responsibilities he did, I'm starting to understand why he did things the way he did. And i'm thankful that I had him as a father. Some things I don't think we can understand until we actually have children ourselves.
 
That said, I do think that there needs to be open and honest dialogue between children and parents, youth and elders. And I think both parties should keep an open ear, and an open heart towards one another. Because gray hair doesn't guarantee wisdom, and youth doesn't guarantee the lack thereof.