Duwang

LOL I know one like that in my fandom.
 
Worst case of toxicity I've seen is people fighting over ticket numbers and actually causing fans to quit the band/preventing some new fans from wanting to attend more often to the point of having a shitty reputation as a whole, despite the band being really nice.

There is no need to get this offended if you open up a discussion about talented musicians with shitty personalities. People are going to say what they want, it's their opinion, and anything you say will not change that. Opinions are like assholes; everyone has one. It's all part of having a good discussion or debate. It's normal.
 
Whether you like it or not, everyone thinks their own way and nobody needs to cater to your needs or sensibilities. Let people think what they want; you're the one who invited this discussion in the first place.
 
edit: I saw that you requested this thread be deleted, and this isn't the first time you've made such a request with a thread you made which didn't turn out as you so wanted. This further shows that you are unwilling to have a real unbiased discussion with anyone about things you may disagree with. The thing about this forum is that it's open to everyone, whether it be casuals or longtime diehards, and any discussion is welcome. What you need to realize is that not all people think alike, and they are not gonna adjust their way of speech or thinking just to cater to feelings of other people. This can also be applied to real life, and as you grow up, you will encounter more people like this who are not just gonna change in the flip of a dime because you said so. You don't have to like it, but you must accept it as it will help you grow later in life.

No, it's a cover.
 
 

(Not in any specific order)
 
1. Separator (ALSDEAD)
2. 君にリアルは届きますか (Ray℃)
3. Revolution to New AGE (Royz)
4. ID ATTACK (PIERROT)
5. Bloom -in my withered garden- (少年記)
 

jesus guys, "leave the scene if you want to announce your wedding and ruin my fantasy", really?
 
talk about petty fan entitlement

1) Not like there's proof in VK, but the speed at which some bands pump out releases and the repetition/overuse of riffs and other elements can be a sign of ghostwriting. Also, when you see kids in the scene who aren't that good playing on stage yet are credited for what they play makes me wonder if they really did write it.
 
2) I think the whole scene is idol kei now. The way bands are put together, managed and marketed is very idol-ish. I'd say VK bands that are less "idol" would be those who put out releases less often, don't focus their sales on cheki and spend more time touring than doing fan-meet events.
 
3) When was the first instore? Not sure when VK evolved into what it is today, but I'm sure it was a while ago.
 
4) What is good music? I think there is good music and bad music in VK, just like in any other genre. And personal enjoyment does not atone for quality. I may not enjoy Morrie, Sukekiyo or Kiyoharu's works, but it is undeniably good music. Whereas I may like a lot of indie artists I consider to be musically mediocre. All in all, if I didn't enjoy VK I wouldn't be here.
 
5) VK does not rely that heavily on the music genre to survive. As long as there's scantly dressed pretty men wooing teen fans into spending their yen, the "well-being" of the scene is preserved. As overseas fans, we focus mainly on the music, because it is really all we can focus on, out of all VK has to offer as a scene. In Japan it is slightly different. You could enjoy the social experience, the fan events, the fashionable aspect, idk.
 
6) Because I have shitty music taste? LOL. I can't remember how I even got so hooked on this scene. It gives me versatility in a way many western rock artists don't. Bands don't always stick to a genre and blend a lot of styles to find their own. I don't know much about music theory but I know Japan uses a distinct... scale? for writing their music and I find it pleasant to my ears. I also tend to focus  a lot on bass and vocals. For the first, I've found more interesting bass-lines in Japan than overseas, where it tends to be a filler instrument. And for the latter... Have you seen those "sounds just like Ruki" comments on various YouTube videos? Well, they do, because Japanese men tend to have a similar vocal range that just happens to tickle my fancy. There's also the thing that with Japanese I can easily ignore corny lyrics because I simply do not fully understand them. I don't look them up either, I can live without knowing if I'm being insulted.
I come from the pop/rock scene, never really went through a western punk/metal phase in my teens year. I grew on 80's rock and 90's pop and I got used to catchy sounds accompanied by guitars, and it's what I look for in VK; poppy choruses with clean vocals and harsh instrumentals + lyrics I don't have to feel embarrassed about. Something that western metal and pop often fail to give me. The visuals aren't really that important to me, since I never watch PVs, but the androgynous beauty pleases me a lot when I do want to watch it tbh. As a big plus, I greatly enjoy the whole VK culture in Japan. I gotta say I love going to a small gig without being pushed around by huge dudes or drowning in the stench of weed and going to instore events and such.

Yada always seemed like a strange guy to me.
I never really liked him or Brand X to be honest. He was always really rude and a lot of the staff there over the years were as well, especially during instores.
Yeah the talks were pretty entertaining, but once it got to be time for the satsueikai/signing he would rush everything and push people out of the store.
He's a total douche. Good riddance.

Not that heartbroken tbh, like it’s dramatic and another hit for the scene yeah, but I frankly felt way more comfortable at Jishuban or pretty much anywhere else.

As I previously mentioned (perhaps in the main Dimlim thread) they've been playing a new song since the beginning of March that is slow and heavy with a very good rhythm for headbanging. 
The SEs in these videos will most definitely NOT become Dimlim songs. Retsu just likes various types of music and probably thought that electronic music would be better suited for these videos.
Calm down guys lol

As I previously mentioned (perhaps in the main Dimlim thread) they've been playing a new song since the beginning of March that is slow and heavy with a very good rhythm for headbanging. 
The SEs in these videos will most definitely NOT become Dimlim songs. Retsu just likes various types of music and probably thought that electronic music would be better suited for these videos.
Calm down guys lol

As I previously mentioned (perhaps in the main Dimlim thread) they've been playing a new song since the beginning of March that is slow and heavy with a very good rhythm for headbanging. 
The SEs in these videos will most definitely NOT become Dimlim songs. Retsu just likes various types of music and probably thought that electronic music would be better suited for these videos.
Calm down guys lol

As I previously mentioned (perhaps in the main Dimlim thread) they've been playing a new song since the beginning of March that is slow and heavy with a very good rhythm for headbanging. 
The SEs in these videos will most definitely NOT become Dimlim songs. Retsu just likes various types of music and probably thought that electronic music would be better suited for these videos.
Calm down guys lol

As I previously mentioned (perhaps in the main Dimlim thread) they've been playing a new song since the beginning of March that is slow and heavy with a very good rhythm for headbanging. 
The SEs in these videos will most definitely NOT become Dimlim songs. Retsu just likes various types of music and probably thought that electronic music would be better suited for these videos.
Calm down guys lol

As I previously mentioned (perhaps in the main Dimlim thread) they've been playing a new song since the beginning of March that is slow and heavy with a very good rhythm for headbanging. 
The SEs in these videos will most definitely NOT become Dimlim songs. Retsu just likes various types of music and probably thought that electronic music would be better suited for these videos.
Calm down guys lol

As I previously mentioned (perhaps in the main Dimlim thread) they've been playing a new song since the beginning of March that is slow and heavy with a very good rhythm for headbanging. 
The SEs in these videos will most definitely NOT become Dimlim songs. Retsu just likes various types of music and probably thought that electronic music would be better suited for these videos.
Calm down guys lol

Legit wouldn’t be surprised if the music in these member promos are just SE’s that are more fitting to a video like that, I don’t think there’s a need to worry that this is what DIMLIM are gonna sound like now 

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They usually post teasers and PVs after lives so they could possibly post one as soon as the 27th, or perhaps 5/6.

New live limited release will be sold at the O-West oneman entitled 喜怒哀楽 (kidoairaku)
 
Tracklist
DISC 1
1.喜 (ki)
2.怒 (do)
3.哀 (ai)
4.楽 (raku)
DISC 2
1.xxxxxx -white-
2.xxxxxx -black-
 
 

They usually post teasers and PVs after lives so they could possibly post one as soon as the 27th, or perhaps 5/6.

New live limited release will be sold at the O-West oneman entitled 喜怒哀楽 (kidoairaku)
 
Tracklist
DISC 1
1.喜 (ki)
2.怒 (do)
3.哀 (ai)
4.楽 (raku)
DISC 2
1.xxxxxx -white-
2.xxxxxx -black-
 
 

New live limited release will be sold at the O-West oneman entitled 喜怒哀楽 (kidoairaku)
 
Tracklist
DISC 1
1.喜 (ki)
2.怒 (do)
3.哀 (ai)
4.楽 (raku)
DISC 2
1.xxxxxx -white-
2.xxxxxx -black-