saishuu 3220 Posted July 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Elazmus said: So how does one read XLLL then... 405050? XD I forget how the numerals that high up work extra large² 1 1 -NOVA- and Elazmus reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorGenesis 11 Posted July 13, 2018 As a fan of this band i really like it so much this album. Theres so many good song in this album The best songs imo : THIRTEEN, RENATUS,EXIST,AMBER,SENSE OF EMPINESS,FOOL Meh-Regular songs: FIVE,GROTHESQUE. FAITH Bad songs imo: JOKER, OBVIOUS. INTERLUDE and INTRODUCTION was innecessary hate to say it but its just a refill, maybe the introduction its valid but why interlude? Joker imo its just an experimental song but theres good parts. At least this album its better than D.A.R.K ( but this album have 3 or 4 epic songs ) and so far better than the blender of Avantgarde.Maybe the 4th best album of this band. For me this album is 8/10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthazell 35 Posted July 13, 2018 i hate myself for being so useless 2 2 Komorebi, Elazmus, emmny and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eraser 66 Posted July 13, 2018 I've been following lynch. for more than 10 years, and loved all of their releases from greedy dead souls till DARK. As for AVANTGARDE and this new album, I can't enjoy them for whatever reason. SINNERS was ok in my book with some nice memorable tracks, but these last 2 full-lengths bore the hell out of me. It's a shame, because some of the previews really got my hopes up this time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masa0922 3 Posted July 13, 2018 12 hours ago, Elazmus said: So how does one read XLLL then... 405050? XD I forget how the numerals that high up work 140 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltanji 2 Posted July 13, 2018 6 hours ago, Eraser said: I've been following lynch. for more than 10 years, and loved all of their releases from greedy dead souls till DARK. As for AVANTGARDE and this new album, I can't enjoy them for whatever reason. SINNERS was ok in my book with some nice memorable tracks, but these last 2 full-lengths bore the hell out of me. It's a shame, because some of the previews really got my hopes up this time. Literally same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvltic 1482 Posted July 13, 2018 y'all are weird AVANTGARDE was better than SINNERS overall i like this album, although FIVE seems like the most obvious choice for "should have been cut" even though the idea of giving everyone a feature because they're all back together is cute cause it's forgettable as hell. i really like OBVIOUS (shame about the DIES IRAE self-cover portion) but it's mostly because it gives me 07-09 lynch. flavor and i can 100% picture how it goes down at lives. ultimately tho my favorites are AMBLE, SENSE OF EMPTINESS, FAITH & GROTESQUE. but mostly i wish they would take a break from the album/album tour format for a few years. every album separates into what songs are going to be regulars and what songs we're never going to hear again after the album tour except at fanclub shows. if you're going to treat most of the album like a b-side soon, i don't really know what the point is. or maybe this is normal for major bands with large album outputs? also tetsu from d'erlanger for some reason has his own special thanks line in the booklet... did i miss if the members mentioned why? did he lend asanao something? 1 nick reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted July 13, 2018 Testu should have stuck around to give tips on how to mix the drums. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvltic 1482 Posted July 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Saishu said: Testu should have stuck around to give tips on how to mix the drums. it's not lynch.'s fault that Ryo had better things to do 5 nick, Saishu, helcchi and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Komorebi 2193 Posted July 13, 2018 3 hours ago, cvltic said: if you're going to treat most of the album like a b-side soon, i don't really know what the point is. or maybe this is normal for major bands with large album outputs? I think many "bigger" bands and artists tend to do this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted July 13, 2018 Yeah, I don’t get what you mean. There are only so many songs a band is going to play at a show, and most of it is going to be the latest material. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvltic 1482 Posted July 13, 2018 idk maybe i'm not articulating myself well -- i've been to a lot of lynch. lives and it's not so much that it's the latest material being featured but there are other songs on GALLOWS aside from GREED + GALLOWS, other songs on AVANTGARDE besides THE OUTRAGE SEXUALITY + UNELMA and yet we very rarely hear them after the album tour unless it's a special occasion. lynch. is the only major band i follow so if this is standard for bands with larger discographies (playing only the single(s) from the albums down the line to death) i have nfi and i'm not a huge fan of it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted July 13, 2018 Ah, I see now. Yeah, I think that’s pretty common for a lot of bands. DEG encores tend to feature a handful of songs that don’t rotate much. Metallica is super guilty of this. I think they’ve been playing the same setlist for about two decades now, regardless of what the new album is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Komorebi 2193 Posted July 14, 2018 L'Arc en ciel has played the exact same setlist at every live for the last 5 years or so. 1 cvltic reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masa0922 3 Posted July 15, 2018 On 7/13/2018 at 12:18 PM, Eraser said: I've been following lynch. for more than 10 years, and loved all of their releases from greedy dead souls till DARK. As for AVANTGARDE and this new album, I can't enjoy them for whatever reason. SINNERS was ok in my book with some nice memorable tracks, but these last 2 full-lengths bore the hell out of me. It's a shame, because some of the previews really got my hopes up this time. On 7/13/2018 at 7:15 PM, ltanji said: Literally same. You would say that i believe in me and inferiority complex are better than avantgarde? Seriously? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltanji 2 Posted July 15, 2018 5 hours ago, masa0922 said: You would say that i believe in me and inferiority complex are better than avantgarde? Seriously? Yes. Especially live. 1 RazorGenesis reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvltic 1482 Posted July 15, 2018 i feel like you can make a good case for IBIM with -273.15℃/tiamat/IBIM (the song)/(+this coma/lie/before you know it even though they're rare now) because they're enjoyable live, but if they never played anything but New Psycho from Inferiority live again i wouldn't be mad lmao. on the other hand, if they stopped playing outrage/killing cunt/invader!!!/F.A.K.E./unelma i would never forgive them. the one thing i can say about lynch. fans is i can never predict which albums they'll say are their favorites or even which songs they enjoy live the most. for their most recent fanclub tour where they played their entire discography, there was a bingo sheet going around where you put the 9 songs you wanted to hear the most at the shows you attended. most of the cards i saw all had very different picks... 2 emmny and Komorebi reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eraser 66 Posted July 15, 2018 9 hours ago, masa0922 said: You would say that i believe in me and inferiority complex are better than avantgarde? Seriously? Without a second thought. 1 RazorGenesis reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kiyoharu is God 283 Posted July 15, 2018 Loved the album. I'd put it on the same level as anything they've released before. They just don't experiment enough that I can have any overly negative or overly positive reaction. Like... I read people talking about this album is better than Avantgarde or how GALLOWS is better than that, .etc. And I'm sitting here like... How can you tell? It all sounds the same. Don't get me wrong, I love them, and I understand preferring one album's tracklist over there other, but it's not like there's a drastic difference in quality imo. Anyway, FAITH is supposed to be a hommage to something? You read that and my first though was to go straight to '90s VK. But, the chorus' melody sorta sounds like KIYOHARU's LAST SONG? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvltic 1482 Posted July 15, 2018 12 minutes ago, Kiyoharu is God said: Anyway, FAITH is supposed to be a hommage to something? You read that and my first though was to go straight to '90s VK. But, the chorus' melody sorta sounds like KIYOHARU's LAST SONG? this is totally out my wheelhouse but everyone was bringing up the shouts from Kuroyume's 親愛なるDEATHMASK ?? some people have also suggested "sister" and from the lyrics: ・God only knows/信仰 → apparently a Kuroyume reference somehow idk ・shura no niwa → Lamiel song title ・hari no niwa → Laputa song title Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted July 16, 2018 I’m just going to have to throw in the towel and put Lynch next to D’espairsRay as “popular bands I don’t get”. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moon 989 Posted July 16, 2018 i really enjoyed this album as a new listener to this band. tho tbh i don't get the hate for joker those riffs go offfffffffffff 1 Komorebi reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted July 16, 2018 I mean, Joker sounds like a bunch of other shuffle beat VK tracks, then straight up uses the riff from The Beautiful People. And one of the vocal melodies sounds like this: 3 2 zombieparadise, RazorGenesis, -NOVA- and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YuyoDrift 1540 Posted July 16, 2018 8 hours ago, Saishu said: I mean, Joker sounds like a bunch of other shuffle beat VK tracks, then straight up uses the riff from The Beautiful People. And one of the vocal melodies sounds like this: Is that why I like it so much? lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorGenesis 11 Posted July 17, 2018 (edited) 22 hours ago, Saishu said: I mean, Joker sounds like a bunch of other shuffle beat VK tracks, then straight up uses the riff from The Beautiful People. And one of the vocal melodies sounds like this: If you dont mentioned this, i will never notice it. Its a completly LOOL for me. Anyways I dont think wants to copy a megaman theme At least Joker its not one of my favorites of the album Edited July 17, 2018 by RazorGenesis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites