Jigsaw9 6783 Posted October 23, 2017 I think those are just tereko's (live recordings/bootlegs by fans)? I mean it's already something unofficial.  At least I found the two corresponding gigs on setlist.fm...  https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dir-en-grey/1997/rock-may-kan-tokyo-japan-53d7ffc9.html https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dir-en-grey/1997/cowboy-world-osaka-japan-5bd7ffc8.html   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhirlingBlack 1043 Posted October 23, 2017 No, they're real demotapes they gave out at those concerts. They are just comments of the band talking for a couple of minutes though, not live recordings or anything interesting. 1 Jigsaw9 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jigsaw9 6783 Posted October 24, 2017 ^ Ah I see, thanks for the correction. Sounds fascinating. xD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seelentau 884 Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) Yes, they are real and Cowboy World is a venue in Japan, but I'm not sure if the top one isn't a bootleg version of the real one, because of the faint colour and the white stripe... I mean it would suck, but since I only paid 2k yen, it's kinda okay. I just need to buy it again, then.  Here's the discogs entries: https://www.discogs.com/Dir-en-grey-1997627-Cowboy-World/release/10824197 https://www.discogs.com/Dir-en-grey-1997614-çŽéťéšżéł´é¤¨/release/10824104  As you can see on the pictures, there's no white stripe on the Cowboy World version, so either I have a misprint or a fake. Or maybe mine was taken from the edge of a bigger paper with multiple covers, like how paper money is produced...? No idea, really... Edited October 24, 2017 by Seelentau Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tokage 5930 Posted October 26, 2017 So... Fukai, Beautiful Dirt and The IIID Empire for the best-of album re-recs. Thoughts?  At least the new version of Beautiful Dirt can only be an improvement over the original, it's one of my least favorite WtD tracks (and maybe even one of my least favorite Diru tracks in general) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nekkichi 6043 Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Tokage said: the new version of Beautiful Dirt can only be an improvement over the original lmao you know it's going be to the "hold my beer" kind of self-cover that will ruin anything good that was in that song.  I don't mind the original, it's not particularly memorable, but nothing on WtD ever got as awful as the persistent shit-fest they've descended into since TMOAB.  expecting a shit-ass take on fukai with a twenty minute long acapella howling intro, and the recreation of IIId empire will probably make their Japanese fans hand their stan cards back to a knot, but the resident neckbeards here will cream 'emselves at its newfound djenty progginess or w/e. Edited October 26, 2017 by nekkichi 2 nullmoon and blacktooth reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted October 26, 2017 I think I called Fukai being one of the remakes.  Why Beautiful Dirt?!  Well I guess itâs better they fuck with a mediocre song instead of mangle a good one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted October 26, 2017 Uh...  DISC 1 : CD 01. -Iâll- 02. ă˘ăŻăăŽä¸ 03. ăăăă 04. Cage 05. äşć 06. č 07. ççą 08. 太é˝ăŽç˘§ 09. ainât afraid to die 10. FILTH 11. č˛-mushi- 12. č 澡  DISC 2 : CD 01. JESSICA 02. umbrella 03. audience KILLER LOOP 04. CHILD PREY 05. DRAIN AWAY 06. dead tree 07. ć-saku- 08. C 09. éźĺ 10. DOZING GREEN 11. AGITATED SCREAMS OF MAGGOTS 12. čśăăăĺŽćŻăčşčşăăŤĺžŽçŹăż 13. CLEVER SLEAZOID 14. ćăéă¨ăŚď˝Ľď˝Ľď˝Ľ 15. VINUSHKA 16. THE â ˘D EMPIRE  DISC 3 : CD 01. é§ă¨çš 02. ćŽ 03. 罪ă¨čŚĺś 04. çž ĺšĺ˝ 05. ăăăż 06. OBSCURE 07. THE FINAL 08. DIFFERENT SENSE 09. ćżăăă¨ăăăŽč¸ăŽä¸ă§çľĄăżäťăăçźçąăŽé 10. LOTUS 11. 蟪é 12. Revelation of mankind 13. Sustain the untruth 14. Un deux 15. 芊č¸ăż 16. Beautiful Dirt  lol at no Garden.  Inclusion of Utafumi is also surprising.  Also lol at using the censored version of the tsumi to batsu remake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nekkichi 6043 Posted October 26, 2017 11 minutes ago, Saishu said: Also lol at using the censored version of the tsumi to batsu remake. idt it's surprising, if this CD gets distributed by sony they won't put the edgy pieces in (not that it really matters with that song)  I'm...surprised jessica ended up there, isn't it too upbeat for their current image of depressed-ass midlife crisis survivors?  but if you ditch agitated sharts of maggots and boring-ass BS like lotus it will smw resemble my itunes Deg playlist C: 1 nullmoon reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted October 26, 2017 Taiyou no Ao being followed by ainât afraid to die is going to feel like an eternity. 2 nullmoon and EvilHippy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EvilHippy 142 Posted October 26, 2017 Well, I'm now curious how many songs appear in both best albums. Akuro no Oka, Cage, Yokan, Myaku, Wake, ain't afraid to die, Filth, mushi, Umbrella, Child Prey, audience killer loop, Drain Away, dead tree, Saku, C, Kodou, ASOM, Clever Sleazoid. That's 18 songs, if we don't count re-recordings (Rasetsukoku, Kasumi, Obscure, The Final and new The IIID Empire). ... It seems that only half of this best album is worth a damn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted October 26, 2017 The Decade releases were clearly just slapped together to meet some record label requirements. This at least seems like a proper package. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AwesomeNyappy 98 Posted October 26, 2017 Wouldnât have put beautiful dirt and the IIID Empire on there (never really held much love for either of these songs.) Â I kept thinking about how dir en grey have changed because someone mentioned here that the songs on Arche and dum spiro Spero all sound the same, and I sort of get where this is coming from. I like both albums, but I realised that I listen to them differently...I think dir en grey albums until then demanded a lot of attention from the listener and while listening, it was sometimes impossible to concentrate on anything else. But with Arche and dum Spiro Spero I feel like all of these songs emerge together into one. I like to listen to them on the train because I enjoy their whole atmosphere, but they donât demand my whole attention. If that makes sense to any of you. 1 nullmoon reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seelentau 884 Posted October 26, 2017 41 minutes ago, Saishu said: The Decade releases were clearly just slapped together to meet some record label requirements. This at least seems like a proper package. They were actually recorded to help Dynamite Tommy in a lawsuit.  As for the re-recordings, I love č 澡, so I hope they don't butcher it. I could imagine them using the live lyrics for the new version, that would be rad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seelentau 884 Posted October 26, 2017 1 hour ago, nekkichi said: I'm...surprised jessica ended up there, isn't it too upbeat for their current image of depressed-ass midlife crisis survivors? You should really read the lyrics to JESSICA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nekkichi 6043 Posted October 26, 2017 27 minutes ago, Seelentau said: You should really read the lyrics to JESSICA. I don't think I care to at this point� I probably did like twelve years ago. their current sound and ~ambience~ is literally nothing like that song.  32 minutes ago, Seelentau said: They were actually recorded to help Dynamite Tommy in a lawsuit. deets??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tokage 5930 Posted October 26, 2017 I get that it's a single and all that shit & so it's to be expected you'll see it pop up on a best-of album, but it's still kinda lame to see sustain the untruth on a greatest hits album when Arche definitely had WAY better songs on it lmao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seelentau 884 Posted October 26, 2017 1 hour ago, nekkichi said: deets??? que? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted October 26, 2017 18 minutes ago, Seelentau said: que? Details Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seelentau 884 Posted October 26, 2017 Well, it's more of an open secret thing. You can read some more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamite_Tommy#Personal_life Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nekkichi 6043 Posted October 26, 2017 I still don't get how their anniversary compilations connect to his lawsuit...  did charitable clairvoyant queens invent timetraveling into the past to coincide their formation with the exact year of papaw potentially getting jailed for his scammery ten yrs later?.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blacktooth 227 Posted October 26, 2017 This looks exactly like the kind of thing I'd buy and then immediately regret buying. 1 nullmoon reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted October 26, 2017 So, like, DEG (or someone at Free-Will) slapped together some half assed compilations to make money to help support Dynamite Tommyâs fraudulent ass? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seelentau 884 Posted October 26, 2017 Yup, to pay for the lawyer costs and what not. Â Also, there's a VULGAR LP out there somewhere. I've never seen it before, but you could win a copy in a lottery. Catch is, only ten copies exist. Forget the 100 copies of the GAUZE LP, this is the new holy grail of DEG. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nekkichi 6043 Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) I wonder why this was never discussed before than, especially since Deg always had a p. active bi-lingual fanbase, it would've made news back in 2007 p. swift tbh  also considering penicillin, for example, released around 5 different CDs  for their XXth anniversary, assuming that noncomformist uncommercial queens diru did that release for papaw's benefit is kinda odd    cute fact about LP no one here will ever have a chance to see! Edited October 26, 2017 by nekkichi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
