Kaleidoscope 195 Posted January 1, 2011 Well, I can understand when some people don't like the sound of that technique, but why should it be false? oo It's nearly as loud as clean singing and can sound very aggressive at times and actually lots of western vocalists use it too, prominent examples are Trivium and recent Bullet For My Valentine. I think the most annoying thing is that it makes you sound just like any other screamer, probably one of the reasons why most metalcore vocalists sound the same since they use fry I think there are some exceptions though, I'm pretty sure that the guy of Ensiferum uses the technique too for example - not sure since I don't really listen to them, but he sounds good imo. Doesn't the guy of GREGORY use lots of distortion? It's been a while since I listened to them, but it sounded kind of weird as far as I remember Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sai 868 Posted January 1, 2011 Hazuki from lynch. is quite good at it, even live. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeus 7997 Posted January 1, 2011 Doesn't the guy of GREGORY use lots of distortion? It's been a while since I listened to them, but it sounded kind of weird as far as I remember Like I said, I'm growl-deaf so I wouldn't be able to tell. To me, he sounds more genuine than someone like Mao or Genki, so that's why I said "average". He's no beast like the guy in the video will put up is, but he puts more into it than the average VK vocalist as far as my ears can tell. When I think of distorted growls I think of Byou from SCREW and judge it based on that and to me, Nobu doesn't sound like that. @will: mCr798WW7II or LS17wG0lCVY should do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 1, 2011 @Kaleidoscope: that technique is noticeable. There is a huge difference between the vocalists in trivium and bullet for my valentine and bands like Parkway Drive, The Acacia Strain, Dir en grey (at times), and a ton of hardcore / metalcore / deathcore bands. This difference is usually most noticeable at live shows as well. With bands like Parkway Drive (video i posted earlier) you can see the physical strains in his neck to present an incredible sound, with bands that employ that "technique" to keep their vocalist sounding pitch perfect for shallow fans, there's not that strain / power behind their vocals. And triviums screams are really...nothing really special. They're more like...what the vocalist of Metallica does. Just some throaty deep shout-singing. Trivium is practically a metallica coverband anyway so it's merely warranted. @koe: with the vocalist of gregory it's really hard to say. theres points where his voice gets pretty low to 1980's cannibal corpse standard (which though are whispered, are pretty well done), but then others it just sounds like he fits the mold of how most VK artists do. I'd definitely have to hear more though to get a really good opinion of it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jigsaw9 6783 Posted January 1, 2011 Ah yes, I totally forgot about GREGORY! Love their growls as well! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeus 7997 Posted January 2, 2011 Well sadly they're on hiatus as of now and there are only two more songs that aren't there: IN VAIN and RED FLAG. IN VAIN doesn't have many harsh vocals (if any, minus the shout at the beginning IIRC) but RED FLAG has a bit more. I'm hoping they come back though - they were surprisingly good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Number Girl 48 Posted January 2, 2011 So intense . . . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 2, 2011 this is how i see most VK artists' growls. promising on cd, but suck live. CD version: not bad i guess? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk3QVDpJuMY Live: wtf? (skip to 1:50) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcb3AaC2GzA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jurideluhi 6 Posted January 2, 2011 Juri from DELUHI has the best growl imo. Second would be Hizumi from D'espairs ray ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ficsci 50 Posted January 2, 2011 ^ Dude no, it's not "brutal" it's "br00tal"You have to be tr00 \m/ Editing my post <3 Coaltar of the Deepers is visual kei? Whoops, I forgot the "visual kei" part of the question :S Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dracolicious13 1 Posted January 7, 2011 ...My vocal coach would burn you all at the stake for even trying to defend screaming/growling lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FOSCOR70 56 Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) Title says it all~ ROAR!!!!!!!! ps - not allowed to choose kyo. Edited July 25, 2018 by FOSCOR70 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nick 10212 Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) Definitely HIZUMI esp in Fuyuushita Risou. 4K quality Edited July 25, 2018 by nostalgia 3 futoshi92, Marchen and ghost reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ghost 2687 Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) While not my number 1 pick, I think Satsuki from Rentrer en Soi is a favorite of mine. His growls have this agitated quality that makes him sound freaking pissed. But it's also kind of nasaly/high pitched so he sounds like a really nettled cat. Edited May 10, 2019 by ghost 2 1 FOSCOR70, Anne Claire and nick reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naaaaani 1173 Posted July 25, 2018 Ai from desugeizu 1 nick reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Komorebi 2193 Posted July 25, 2018 Hands down Ricko, from Jiluka. But Natsuki (-Oz-), Hazuki (lynch.), Hiro (Nokubura) and Hizumi (D'espairsRay) are high up my list. 1 -Tetsu- reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
secret_no_03 959 Posted July 25, 2018 Tied between Kyo and Kagami. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Melon Soda 23 Posted July 25, 2018 but am I allowed to say kyo from sukekiyo covering gerbera by mucc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futoshi92 34 Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) What happens when you combine Udo Dirkschneider and Lemmy? Kiba from Gargoyle, nuff said \m/ Edited September 16, 2018 by futoshi92 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anne Claire 392 Posted July 25, 2018 nuff said. 1 suji reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suji 8317 Posted July 25, 2018 donald duck 1 itsukoii reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites