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I'm really interested in this topic of the lack ofart spirit within the scene. If it existed since always, I think it is patent that is reached whole new levels in the last ten years. During this time, which for me still is a time of much frustration over discovering good artists in this scene, I've been digging a lot older bands, and kinda started to understand some threads tied to its origins, differentiating key acts, waves into the scene, and also looking profoundly for an understanding of the many Western trends that inspired VK since its very proto-eras when even the "VK" label didn't existed. Unfortunately, English is not my mother tongue, so writing down all my thoughts over these matters could take me a very hard time in order to make things meaningful and not weird at all, lol! But perhaps I could try to do it in the near future!
 
In the meanwhile, feel free to make posts about your thoughts over this stuff! I think many of the users here are interested in discussing much more things than liking A or B band's scheduled new release and PV...
 
@ghostpepper I will definitely read an online "diary" of your work behind the curtains! 

I'm really interested in this topic of the lack ofart spirit within the scene. If it existed since always, I think it is patent that is reached whole new levels in the last ten years. During this time, which for me still is a time of much frustration over discovering good artists in this scene, I've been digging a lot older bands, and kinda started to understand some threads tied to its origins, differentiating key acts, waves into the scene, and also looking profoundly for an understanding of the many Western trends that inspired VK since its very proto-eras when even the "VK" label didn't existed. Unfortunately, English is not my mother tongue, so writing down all my thoughts over these matters could take me a very hard time in order to make things meaningful and not weird at all, lol! But perhaps I could try to do it in the near future!
 
In the meanwhile, feel free to make posts about your thoughts over this stuff! I think many of the users here are interested in discussing much more things than liking A or B band's scheduled new release and PV...
 
@ghostpepper I will definitely read an online "diary" of your work behind the curtains! 

I'm really interested in this topic of the lack ofart spirit within the scene. If it existed since always, I think it is patent that is reached whole new levels in the last ten years. During this time, which for me still is a time of much frustration over discovering good artists in this scene, I've been digging a lot older bands, and kinda started to understand some threads tied to its origins, differentiating key acts, waves into the scene, and also looking profoundly for an understanding of the many Western trends that inspired VK since its very proto-eras when even the "VK" label didn't existed. Unfortunately, English is not my mother tongue, so writing down all my thoughts over these matters could take me a very hard time in order to make things meaningful and not weird at all, lol! But perhaps I could try to do it in the near future!
 
In the meanwhile, feel free to make posts about your thoughts over this stuff! I think many of the users here are interested in discussing much more things than liking A or B band's scheduled new release and PV...
 
@ghostpepper I will definitely read an online "diary" of your work behind the curtains! 

2020 and blacks are still getting murdered and lynched here in cold blood with no justice. This has been the status quo for the last 400 years. If I'm alive to witness the destruction of the U.S., I won't rejoice about it...but I damn sure won't lament it either.

This discussion brings back some memories of the time the tokyo damage report about the inner workings of the VK industry was posted on the net and so many overseas fans were in total disbelief and denial. Most of us overseas fans never had been to a live in Japan and most of had no idea how the scene truly was in its home country. So it was really hard for many to stomach to hear that their beloved oh-so-perfect and "better than plastic, mass-produced 'murrican pop music" bands were just as fabricated by labels and couldn't write their own music or play their instruments. 

Even then many new VK bands were just talentless hacks who wanted to get their 15 mins of fame and easy access to pussy, and that was maybe 8-10 years ago? Around that same time LUNA SEA's Sugizo and Dir en grey Kyo commented on the then contemporary scene, that the newbies are not passionate about making art and music, but only care about attracting chicks. I remember how much hate and flack they both got then, with some fans accusing Sugizo to be jealous of the young bandomen, because they were hotter and got more girls, lol. How naive we gaijins were back then. Ofc we would also believe that there are no kusomen - our fav bandomen are all perfect, because they are hawt!

It's good that the scene nowadays is more open about discussing what's going on inside and that we are not foaming at our mouths because someone "insulted" our fav bands by pointing out the obvious… like Kisaki's misdeeds. If that would have become public ten years ago I bet you there would have been at least a small army of people defending this guy. At least now most people see him for what he is.

That said, VK always rubbed along with a bit of delinquency and depravity. Since the hosts entered the scene that got even more amplified, but that transition has taken place since a whole decade. I think we reached a point where almost none of the "original" spirit is left behind. Ofc you get the occasional band that's truly concerned about doing art, but for every honest group you get 10 forgettable ,mass-produced trash ones.

Can you name the bands that you are sure they write their own stuff?

Can you name the bands that you are sure they write their own stuff?

Juka, Kamijo and Hizaki.
 

If they do (ha, as if), it will only be from official releases anyway.
So nothing interesting. I'll see if I'll record the talk stuff, just for posterity.
Or just hope @nostalgia does

Was anybody really expecting something worthy from a guy like him?

having traumatic flashbacks of this comment rn
 
 

i hope toshiya launches an official only-fans to commemorate this release!

I'm surprised they all are so fond of the snoozefest that is inconvenient ideal
 
love toshiya and shinya's taste in their own music,
kyo set is telling a lot about his 『ｅｓｓｅｎｃｅ』 tbh

I hope I'll->Zan was addressed to Shinya.

I like how Japanese people were donating 666 JPY to Kyo's setlist when HYDRA -666- [LIVE] was playing.

Yeah, kinda messy, but we urgently need someone in that weird band who openly acknowledges their VK stuff is quintessential for their project and the whole Japanese rock scene altogether. #GauzeToo 

Kaoru's setlist is pretty traditional, imo.
Toshiya's.... fucking moodswing. Zan->Zakuro for an encore? Really?
Die had the best setlist for the real concert. Sense of flow, pretty energetic playlist. Tsumi to Batsu->Ranunculus still bothers, tho. But it's not that bad.
Shinya... I guess I just don't like their visual stuff that much. But the bigger problem is that there is no flow. He just picked songs where he likes to bang (Uroko, Berry, Umbrella). I dunno, feel pretty wtf.

Shinya doesn't want to age, so he's recapturing lost youth by pushing VK stuff

I've decided to give online dating another go and not a single person on the app I'm using has 'visual kei' as an interest. Fuck this XD 

for your consideration: kyo x junji ito
 

It's japanese cultural kink, never mind...

Yeah in asian culture, usually everyone is supposed to work for the same goal, pretty much follow the leader and if you deviate from that goal then you aren't a good person and you're against everyone else. so they use that saying of being selfish quite a lot in Japan for those who try to be different and it helps to keep everyone in line really.

Mana? Soulless?
 

He's not that soulless...not all the time.