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I usually am too impatient for albums over an hour long unless they're really good, so I hope it will be! I think I'm going to be a fucking loser and pre-order this album anyway. OH WAIT THIS RELEASES NEXT WEEK? /smashes pre-order button

Anger often gets in the way of judgement, so I think I'm not going to put any more effort into debating this subject with you. I could pull out tons of examples on why feminism is incredibly misunderstood (we want equality, not superiority, but both feminism as MRA have their nutcases), but I'm not going to put any sort of energy into it, while I could be using it for something else.
 
On the last point though I need to explain myself some more, becaus I worded it a bit odd. He was of course mentally ill, but the word tends to be used quite broad. Take an anxiety disorder to a person like this kid. An anxiety order isn't nearly as damaging (though it can be to the person who has it) to others as it was whatever this kid had. He was a danger for people around him. Compare one to a cold, the other to a broken rib. He mentally ill yes, but they're not wording it very effectively. And that's all, really.

Not to mention that thing that happened last week with that kid in Santa Barbara who killed 6 people because he couldn't get laid. He even made a (really creepy) video about how the day would be his "day of retribution" and he was also part of the Men's Rights Activist group online. He felt like women OWED him sex because he was nice to them. The MRA isn't just for jokes anymore, it's actually killing people. The worst feminism does is make white teenage boys angry on the internet, jfc.
 
The major press seems to be trying to push the whole misogyny issue to the background by saying he was "mentally ill" and that this is the reason why he did what he did. I won't deny the kid must've had some sort of illness but that doesn't change the fact that the action was fuelled by misogyny/hate for women. It's funny how people only tend to recognize mental illness as an actual legit thing when they're doing it to protect a white guy.
 
Terribly sorry for going off-topic, but since we're talking misogyny anyway...I hope the girls get well soon and I hope they'll get all the medical and mental care they need to let this go.

Not to mention that thing that happened last week with that kid in Santa Barbara who killed 6 people because he couldn't get laid. He even made a (really creepy) video about how the day would be his "day of retribution" and he was also part of the Men's Rights Activist group online. He felt like women OWED him sex because he was nice to them. The MRA isn't just for jokes anymore, it's actually killing people. The worst feminism does is make white teenage boys angry on the internet, jfc.
 
The major press seems to be trying to push the whole misogyny issue to the background by saying he was "mentally ill" and that this is the reason why he did what he did. I won't deny the kid must've had some sort of illness but that doesn't change the fact that the action was fuelled by misogyny/hate for women. It's funny how people only tend to recognize mental illness as an actual legit thing when they're doing it to protect a white guy.
 
Terribly sorry for going off-topic, but since we're talking misogyny anyway...I hope the girls get well soon and I hope they'll get all the medical and mental care they need to let this go.

what the fuck. poor girls I'm glad they're ok. this reminds me of that time some guy almost dragged an SNSD member off-stage while they were performing. scary shit, violence against women/misogyny is a very real issue.
 

not all men

I guess nobody . . . saw it coming.
 
I'm terrible, sorry.

AAI is my favourite out of the series! Edgeworth was always my favourite character because of his amazing sarcasm. I really liked how you could fully investigate crime scenes in a new manner, and how you could use Logic instead of speculating/bluffing the way Phoenix does (though everyone loves the good old Phoenix Wright bluff).

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Lmfao this. It's not like people get hurt when two gay people marry. "BUT HOW DO I EXPLAIN THIS TO MY CHILDREN", really simple, the way my mother did it: sometimes people don't like people from the other gender but from the same gender. That's it. THAT'S REALLY IT. People talk about it like it's some difficult math formula but it really isn't.
 
Also people who claim it ruins "the sanctity of marriage" bc marriage should be between a man and a woman is a load of shit because 1) Britney Spears got married once for 7 hours while drunk and that's not ruining the sanctity of marriage while a gay couple who has been together for 10 years that wants to get married does? 2) These people always yell that the bible forbids it but hey the bible also forbids you to do a lot of other things but they don't seem to care about those lol.
 
In short: being homophobic isn't freedom of speech, it's being a douche and highly illegal.

Lmfao this. It's not like people get hurt when two gay people marry. "BUT HOW DO I EXPLAIN THIS TO MY CHILDREN", really simple, the way my mother did it: sometimes people don't like people from the other gender but from the same gender. That's it. THAT'S REALLY IT. People talk about it like it's some difficult math formula but it really isn't.
 
Also people who claim it ruins "the sanctity of marriage" bc marriage should be between a man and a woman is a load of shit because 1) Britney Spears got married once for 7 hours while drunk and that's not ruining the sanctity of marriage while a gay couple who has been together for 10 years that wants to get married does? 2) These people always yell that the bible forbids it but hey the bible also forbids you to do a lot of other things but they don't seem to care about those lol.
 
In short: being homophobic isn't freedom of speech, it's being a douche and highly illegal.

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Alright, this is not a fucking therapy session. Stay on topic, and with that I mean the discussion we had earlier (the influence of glam metal/rock in visual kei) or any other topic related to the statement "New VK vs. Old VK". Everyone's free to disagree and discuss there, as we like to promote healthy discussion. Whether or not blackdoll worships Lycaon, or if Miyuu has a degree in psychologic analysis is not relevant, so drop that for now. Irrelevant/trolling posts will from now on be deleted.

Alright, this is not a fucking therapy session. Stay on topic, and with that I mean the discussion we had earlier (the influence of glam metal/rock in visual kei) or any other topic related to the statement "New VK vs. Old VK". Everyone's free to disagree and discuss there, as we like to promote healthy discussion. Whether or not blackdoll worships Lycaon, or if Miyuu has a degree in psychologic analysis is not relevant, so drop that for now. Irrelevant/trolling posts will from now on be deleted.

Alright, this is not a fucking therapy session. Stay on topic, and with that I mean the discussion we had earlier (the influence of glam metal/rock in visual kei) or any other topic related to the statement "New VK vs. Old VK". Everyone's free to disagree and discuss there, as we like to promote healthy discussion. Whether or not blackdoll worships Lycaon, or if Miyuu has a degree in psychologic analysis is not relevant, so drop that for now. Irrelevant/trolling posts will from now on be deleted.

Alright, this is not a fucking therapy session. Stay on topic, and with that I mean the discussion we had earlier (the influence of glam metal/rock in visual kei) or any other topic related to the statement "New VK vs. Old VK". Everyone's free to disagree and discuss there, as we like to promote healthy discussion. Whether or not blackdoll worships Lycaon, or if Miyuu has a degree in psychologic analysis is not relevant, so drop that for now. Irrelevant/trolling posts will from now on be deleted.

Alright, this is not a fucking therapy session. Stay on topic, and with that I mean the discussion we had earlier (the influence of glam metal/rock in visual kei) or any other topic related to the statement "New VK vs. Old VK". Everyone's free to disagree and discuss there, as we like to promote healthy discussion. Whether or not blackdoll worships Lycaon, or if Miyuu has a degree in psychologic analysis is not relevant, so drop that for now. Irrelevant/trolling posts will from now on be deleted.

Anyone seen the season finale yet? Basically:
 

Lmfao this. It's not like people get hurt when two gay people marry. "BUT HOW DO I EXPLAIN THIS TO MY CHILDREN", really simple, the way my mother did it: sometimes people don't like people from the other gender but from the same gender. That's it. THAT'S REALLY IT. People talk about it like it's some difficult math formula but it really isn't.
 
Also people who claim it ruins "the sanctity of marriage" bc marriage should be between a man and a woman is a load of shit because 1) Britney Spears got married once for 7 hours while drunk and that's not ruining the sanctity of marriage while a gay couple who has been together for 10 years that wants to get married does? 2) These people always yell that the bible forbids it but hey the bible also forbids you to do a lot of other things but they don't seem to care about those lol.
 
In short: being homophobic isn't freedom of speech, it's being a douche and highly illegal.

I honestly don't give a shit in which year a song was made as long as I enjoy listening to it. Each generation had/has their heaps of shit and their good stuff. What you consider nice to listen to or pure shit is dependant on the person (and then I'm just talking about the listening experience, not about bands that are technically awful/great). There are people who like new VK and hate the old, there are people who like the old but hate the new (though like Ikna said, sometimes I feel like the polarization between these two fanbases goes a bit too far), and there's nothing wrong with that because WOW PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE A DIFFERENT TASTE IN MUSIC GUYS!
 
The second people only shit on what they hate and feel like they have to mention that in every single post (as demonstrated in this thread somewhere) that's where it isn't about an opinion anymore, then you're just being ignorant. Debating is something else than talking shit without any decent argument.

Lmfao this. It's not like people get hurt when two gay people marry. "BUT HOW DO I EXPLAIN THIS TO MY CHILDREN", really simple, the way my mother did it: sometimes people don't like people from the other gender but from the same gender. That's it. THAT'S REALLY IT. People talk about it like it's some difficult math formula but it really isn't.
 
Also people who claim it ruins "the sanctity of marriage" bc marriage should be between a man and a woman is a load of shit because 1) Britney Spears got married once for 7 hours while drunk and that's not ruining the sanctity of marriage while a gay couple who has been together for 10 years that wants to get married does? 2) These people always yell that the bible forbids it but hey the bible also forbids you to do a lot of other things but they don't seem to care about those lol.
 
In short: being homophobic isn't freedom of speech, it's being a douche and highly illegal.

I honestly don't give a shit in which year a song was made as long as I enjoy listening to it. Each generation had/has their heaps of shit and their good stuff. What you consider nice to listen to or pure shit is dependant on the person (and then I'm just talking about the listening experience, not about bands that are technically awful/great). There are people who like new VK and hate the old, there are people who like the old but hate the new (though like Ikna said, sometimes I feel like the polarization between these two fanbases goes a bit too far), and there's nothing wrong with that because WOW PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE A DIFFERENT TASTE IN MUSIC GUYS!
 
The second people only shit on what they hate and feel like they have to mention that in every single post (as demonstrated in this thread somewhere) that's where it isn't about an opinion anymore, then you're just being ignorant. Debating is something else than talking shit without any decent argument.

Well, it is a singer from a VK band and guess what, Vkei was influenced by GLAM.
Good VK = hot? So it's really not about the music, ok.
Also blackdoll, we have all already understood that you find old school to be shitty and pointless. You are writing the same argument again and again in any fucking thread that vaguely mentions oldschool bands (or is about old bands being covered by new ones, etc). It's okay now, you can calm down and fangirl/fanboy about Lycaon. No old skewl fanatic will stop you.
What i noticed so far in the thread: Kote kei elitists will never accept new VK and will always cry about it being shitty, too poppy, commercial and the bands looking like dumb hosts. And they will all sit in the corner waiting for new bands sounding like their indie superherous, like punks still wait for the revolution. (I know what I mean, I am kinfd of one of them)
And the Neo VK Fans will always make snarky remarks how old VK looked dumb and shit and how sexey and hotz the new bands are now. And that their production values and skills are better (something that even I agree with.)
 
And yeah, I am using those fucking labels. The reason: even though everyone seems to have a different understanding of Kote kei and Neo Vkei (since both are terms generated by fans, not bands or "experts") the majority of people will still understand what I mean, when I talk about Neo VK. Also it is horter than to say "the bands that came after those old skewl groups." Yeah, I am very lazy when I write my ass huge texts, so short terms and labels com very handy. I don't really care if the label is legit or if we have to rethink the concept in 10 years when contemporary bands are now considered old - for the time being it's totally practical.
And now to the "old band style coming back" thing: I am with the majority here. Old school VK is gone and over. That era will never repeat. Unlike  other music scenes that had more or less successfull revivals in the last years (see deathrock, post-punk and synthpop) old VK doesn't have enough fans to be revived. There is no big and strong "core" scene or community which is interested into forming and/or supporting bands playing in that style and there are no people who would help to build up a space and network for this style to flourish in the underground scene. VK itself isn't even a real scene and definitely not a subculture. There is no chance either that the early to mid 00s bands will have a revival and the type of VK that's popular now will vanish on day as well and be replaced by a new type of VK.
I also often heard that old VK was fitting to it's time. Every era has it's own feel and “Zeitgeist“ and of course musical and fashion trends. Old VK fitted into the 90s, because it was fitting into the feel of that era. We have the year 2014 now and the 2010s have a complete different feel and culture than the 90s. It's not easy to translate something from an older era into a new one without having to change it or at least adapt it ti the current circumstances. Old VK therefore wouldn't even work in the same way today as it did in the 90s. Too much has changed since then.
Of course there are bands like La'veil Mizeria or GAUZES, but they don't have a big following. They seem maybe too boring and "old" for the average VK listener, which is why their fanbase is way too small to bring them into the spotlight of popular music. Grieva may be the only ones who are successfull, but for me Grieva are more of a "modern old VK band". They defintely have the '99 spirit in their music, but they still sound somewhat modern. If they had only a  reportoire of songs like kikei they'd be spot on-old school VK, but with old Kuroyume inspired music alone you can't win the attention of people anymore. That's why they spice up everything with a bit of modern VK influences. Not that this is bad though. in fact I like it a lot and in my book they are doing it right. They have the right connection to the roots of VK, but they aren't totally backwards. (I don't want to discuss about the Dir en grey influence though, everthing has been said about it).
 
My faztít: the argument will go on until eternity and I too would like to see more old school bands. But i guess we can accept that it's dead and gone and should instead value what we have. There are enough old bands you can listen to. If you want to follow new bands and feel, that modern VK isn't yours, maybe try to go searching something you like outside of VK. This is mostly what I do and therefore I have no problem with no new VK bands being of any interest. On the other side: I may often come off as a hater, but I have nothing against modern VK bands. I just don't really like any aspect of 95% of them and I can't really get the hype around some bands, especially those Pop-rock Host kei groups. As I have said in this thread already: it's dependant on your preferences and what you like. Tastes are different and while I love old school aesthetics and music, another person may find it absolutely horrible. I can totally accept it, nobody has to like what I like. On the other hand I am not going to make mean spirited comments about how you suck for thinking the Gazette or Vivid (the new one) are the best bands that ever graced the scene. I may not agree with it, but you can love it as much as you want and defend your opinion.
 
I just dislike the strange climate between fans of old and new VK. It may be just me, but I have the feeling some people on the net (and here on MH) are extremely defensive when it comes to that topic and try to push down the fans of the other side. I am really sick and tired of users trying to turn every discussion into a bitchfight between oldschool and newschool lovers. I can't hear anymore the whole "But my (old or new) band would have done that better". And of course the whole "they looked like shit back then". It's as shitty and dumb as the "My band is better than yours. Your band sucks and therferoe your taste sucks!!! trololol" crap.
Sorry for writing a long text again. >_>