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La'miss†fairy
 
no fucking contest

I used to listen metal when I was in high school but not much these days actually. 
 
 
 

It depends on the band. I've said it about DeG, but in that case it's a shorthand way for me to say "they're too influenced by modern metal now for my taste, and modern metal is mostly awful because it tends toward the gimmicky and overproduced." I'm not saying western influences are intrinsically bad, just those particular western influences.
 
Rock wasn't invented in Japan, of course all vk is western influenced. But-despite the received wisdom that vk "isn't a sound"-it has certain musical signifiers running through its history that are unique to it. Like, you could erase a Madeth Gray'll song from everyone's collective memory, re-write it in English, and you could immediately tell just by listening to it that it doesn't sound like some American or British band wrote it. I guess maybe it could be mistaken for some unusually metallic-yet-poppy, ultra-theatrical goth rock, but even that's a stretch.
 
From my experience, in music and media in general, what looks like the most stalwart gatekeeping usually has experience and some well thought out thought processes behind it. At the end of the day, it's bad form to attach motives to other people's taste. "Elitists" could just as easily label you as being a "raving poptimist," having no discernment, or yadda yadda.

Classic, if maybe a little overproduced (not every five seconds of every song needs a bunch of sound effects and blips and radio broadcast snippets). Ryuichi had an emotional range beyond just the arms-waving-in-the-wind messianic drama thing and could sound pretty convincingly sinister at times, which prevents the wimpiness of it all from getting on my nerves.
 
more threads about ancient albums, please

Classic, if maybe a little overproduced (not every five seconds of every song needs a bunch of sound effects and blips and radio broadcast snippets). Ryuichi had an emotional range beyond just the arms-waving-in-the-wind messianic drama thing and could sound pretty convincingly sinister at times, which prevents the wimpiness of it all from getting on my nerves.
 
more threads about ancient albums, please

Ian Stuart, GG Allin, the list could go on...

La'miss†fairy
 
no fucking contest

La'miss†fairy
 
no fucking contest

Ian Stuart, GG Allin, the list could go on...

this band is god！i love dir en grey forever！

Obsessively distinguishing between active bands and inactive bands ('active-only' all-time favorites lists, etc). As if a band never existed as soon as they split up. As if defunct bands don't constantly have reunions, and active bands don't constantly split up. etc.
afaik no other genre has a fanbase that cares so much about activeness.

That unidentifiable vocal type that somehow sounds deep and high pitched at the same time.
 
I don't know how else to describe it other than to say probably over half of all vk vocalists since the mid 90s try their hardest to affect it. It had its place but it's time to move on.

Obsessively distinguishing between active bands and inactive bands ('active-only' all-time favorites lists, etc). As if a band never existed as soon as they split up. As if defunct bands don't constantly have reunions, and active bands don't constantly split up. etc.
afaik no other genre has a fanbase that cares so much about activeness.

Obsessively distinguishing between active bands and inactive bands ('active-only' all-time favorites lists, etc). As if a band never existed as soon as they split up. As if defunct bands don't constantly have reunions, and active bands don't constantly split up. etc.
afaik no other genre has a fanbase that cares so much about activeness.

Obsessively distinguishing between active bands and inactive bands ('active-only' all-time favorites lists, etc). As if a band never existed as soon as they split up. As if defunct bands don't constantly have reunions, and active bands don't constantly split up. etc.
afaik no other genre has a fanbase that cares so much about activeness.

Personally I'm really enjoying their new psychobilly direction. They've come a long way since their oi! roots, although their mid-era harsh noise material remains my favorite stuff by the band.

Personally I'm really enjoying their new psychobilly direction. They've come a long way since their oi! roots, although their mid-era harsh noise material remains my favorite stuff by the band.

Personally I'm really enjoying their new psychobilly direction. They've come a long way since their oi! roots, although their mid-era harsh noise material remains my favorite stuff by the band.

Personally I'm really enjoying their new psychobilly direction. They've come a long way since their oi! roots, although their mid-era harsh noise material remains my favorite stuff by the band.

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DSS is their worst for me, it just forgettable. And I listen to it the least. I don't remember one song from that album off my head. I need to see the CD jacket to know. Every damn time. Sure, it can be technically skillful or whatever. But when your music doesn't long lasting, and didn't stick to your listeners, what's the use of that? Also, I feel that they are trying to repeat what they did with UROBOROS, but it just get too ambitious to the point of not listenable nor repeatable.

I don't hate any of their eras, but I'll basically third that. Tetsu era is kind of barebones in a way that doesn't suit their concept, and doesn't have anything as close to a perfect song as Le Ciel.
Klaha era is just too Castlevania/proto-mallgoth for my blood. As a general rule in music, I start noping out the second I hear harpsichord

I assume most people here know this, but the name Anti-Feminism has nothing to do with feminism. It was an ironic comment on "feminine" fashion in vk at the time. I guess feminism was one of those English loan words that kind of had a different meaning in Japan, kind of like how "bitch" means "slut" over there instead of "mean woman."
 
Drawing the line at nazi imagery seems pretty extreme. That renders like half the 70s punk canon off limits. Would you seriously refuse to listen to Siouxsie and the Banshees or The Stooges or The Ramones because they played around with the imagery once or twice? Around the 80s, real fascist bands mostly moved on to more discrete symbols like celtic crosses and kolovrats--ironically a swastika is a pretty good indication that a band isn't seriously political in any way at this point. Basically a modern satanic pentagram circa the satanic panic.
 
anyway, 'au†ism' were pretty ahead of their time, people definitely weren't obsessed with memeing that word back in the 90s like they are now.

I assume most people here know this, but the name Anti-Feminism has nothing to do with feminism. It was an ironic comment on "feminine" fashion in vk at the time. I guess feminism was one of those English loan words that kind of had a different meaning in Japan, kind of like how "bitch" means "slut" over there instead of "mean woman."
 
Drawing the line at nazi imagery seems pretty extreme. That renders like half the 70s punk canon off limits. Would you seriously refuse to listen to Siouxsie and the Banshees or The Stooges or The Ramones because they played around with the imagery once or twice? Around the 80s, real fascist bands mostly moved on to more discrete symbols like celtic crosses and kolovrats--ironically a swastika is a pretty good indication that a band isn't seriously political in any way at this point. Basically a modern satanic pentagram circa the satanic panic.
 
anyway, 'au†ism' were pretty ahead of their time, people definitely weren't obsessed with memeing that word back in the 90s like they are now.

I assume most people here know this, but the name Anti-Feminism has nothing to do with feminism. It was an ironic comment on "feminine" fashion in vk at the time. I guess feminism was one of those English loan words that kind of had a different meaning in Japan, kind of like how "bitch" means "slut" over there instead of "mean woman."
 
Drawing the line at nazi imagery seems pretty extreme. That renders like half the 70s punk canon off limits. Would you seriously refuse to listen to Siouxsie and the Banshees or The Stooges or The Ramones because they played around with the imagery once or twice? Around the 80s, real fascist bands mostly moved on to more discrete symbols like celtic crosses and kolovrats--ironically a swastika is a pretty good indication that a band isn't seriously political in any way at this point. Basically a modern satanic pentagram circa the satanic panic.
 
anyway, 'au†ism' were pretty ahead of their time, people definitely weren't obsessed with memeing that word back in the 90s like they are now.