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I don't think "almost unrecognizable" remakes should be taken for totally new, separate compositions when you know that there's a still significant share and/or the basis of the original song (including Kiri to Mayu). Fukai was the original product and offspring of 1st VULGAR recording sessions, which would have been serving the similar purpose akin to Red...[em] for instance. "And Zero" and "Tefu Tefu" are still paired as bonus with the album so they technically have no fixed "b-side" status so to speak. So they are still "Arche tracks" -  and considering their usual habits, "Arche b-sides" would be most probably met in the context of upcoming album instead.
 
"GDS"? The one on Saku single (?) is a live take as well if you didn't notice (it's possible to muffle the audience sound away for a moment). Cannot say it's the "original b-side" either really. So all in all, I doubt that original b-sides will come out in the near future since they usually find their way in the next album instead etc.
 
also
 
@SaishuShitataru Mourou is hated? I dug the Deftones-y vibe ("Digital Bath", anyone?)  it had so it's really hard to dislike imho - at least it makes more sense as a composition unlike "Amon" or "Akatsuki" where god knows what is happening really.

If this had been their main projects, I probably would have voted Sigure, but I personally haven't gravitated to TK's solo work as much as I have to Gesu. Stylistically Gesu just resonates better with me, and especially when TK sounds 'reigned in' he loses some of what makes his style special (or at least more basic song arrangements make it harder for me to ignore how much I dislike his voice lol). I need TK to be weird and all over the place to hold my interest. 

Instead of random VK face-offs and even more random clusterfucks, let's try to bring the actual purpose of this format back:
TK from Ling Tosite Sigure
 
Gesu no Kiwami Otome
 
I tried my best to represent main aspects of these bands above, but anyways - why such comparison though (aside from both being side-projects)?
 
 
All in all, I find this battle to be rather serious one but fun nonetheless if you do really dig both acts (yeah yeah, not that we expect possible Enon bias here but I am curious about those who do not follow either really)
 
Go!

Phantasmagoria - Mikansei to Guilt  = Laputa - Jakou
the GazettE - Ruder   = SADS - Liberation
 
Dolly - Gothic Party  = Pierrot - Neogrotesque
 
the GazettE - Kanshoku = SID - Izon no Niwa
 
SID - Alibi = L'arc-en-Ciel - Fourth Avenue Cafe
 
Alice Nine - 4U  = L'arc-en-Ciel - Fate
Dir en grey - Increase Blue = Metallica - Dirty Window
 
Ken - Deeper = Buck-Tick - JUPITER
 
Dir en grey - GARDEN (solo)  = Luna Sea - Moon = DEAD END - Good Morning Satellite
(search for yourselves)
 
Dir en grey - Mazohyst of Decadence (main riff)  = Kuroyume - Yuri no Hanataba (main riff)

  - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTRPFzsCCxY 
 
ps. edit: not gonna fuss with embed codes, yuck.

the GazettE - Sludgy Cult <> SADS - Because
the GazettE - Vermin <> X JAPAN - Scars
the GazettE - Shiver <> Luna Sea - End of Sorrow
the GazettE - Defective Tragedy <> Luna Sea - FEEL
the GazettE - Before I Decay <> Slipknot - Before I Forget (do I have to go on this...?)
the GazettE - DISTRESS AND COMA <> Zilch - Psyche
the GazettE - Ogre <> various Slipknot riffs off Iowa
 
Dir en grey - Reiketsu Nariseba <> Slipknot -  People = Shit (Breakdown <> intro riff)
Dir en grey - I'll <> Kuroyume - Miss Moonlight x D=SIRE - Nostalgia (?)
Nightmare - Believe <> Luna Sea - Rosier
Dir en grey - Akuro no Oka <> Luna Sea - Millennium (listen to choruses)
Lycaon - Pierrot <> SADS - Finale
Lynch. - Sleepy Flow <> Prodigy - Spitfire
Lynch. - Shadowz <> Slipknot Before I Forget (...)
Versailles - Revenant Choir <> X Japan - Silent Jealousy
12012 - Hesitation <> Limp Bizkit - Take A Look Around (some riffs) x Dir en grey - Repetition of Hatred
D'espairsray - Love is Dead <> Dead or Alive - You Spin Me Right Round
Kuroyume - Faster Beat <> some Dead Kennedys' song off their first album...
Alice Nine - The Beautiful Name <> U2 - Where the Streets Have No Name
L'arc-en-Ciel - In the Air (sans chorus) <> U2 - Where the Streets Have No Name
Plastic Tree - Ruisen Kairo <> Asian Kung-Fu Generation - Blue Train
Plastic Tree - Ghost <> Slipknot - Duality
Plastic Tree - Thirteenth Friday <> My Bloody Valentine - Only Shallow
Kuroyume - Love Song <> Luna Sea - Image (acoustic riffs)
Luna Sea - G. <> X Japan - Miscast
 
...Basically most of D-major-based songs in highly pop/early vk-related bands' repertoire are similar in one way or another to U2's pre 1990-repertoire 

Alice Nine members (at least Shou and Saga - composers of this track btw) are avid Muse fanboys  - this also explains the similar concept of "song trilogy" behind GEMINI and the one Muse had in their 2008-2009-ish album.
 
(for reference: Alice Nine often mention U2, Muse, Number Girl, Luna Sea and some sophisticated brit acts akin to Underworld and so)

And now instead of usually English-ridden titles we have tons of Japanese-titled songs? Must be another sign of this new "mature" direction.
 
Still cautiously looking forward to this but now she looks a bit hotter than in her earlier tacky comeback photos.

This is actually funny since the actual context where the term was derived from is not necessarily limited to these first shoegaze acts and so on...the hell, even post-punk acts back in the old days had varying tendencies in terms of staring down (or "at their own shoes", hence the name "shoegaze") while strumming chords. So all in all, the genre name is still nonsensical and serves no purpose in describing the content tbqh.

Genki banana army comfirmed

Gazette has a nice record of similarity cases actually (no youtube links, just a few I can get out of my chest for now):
 
 
And that's just a small batch with obvious connections to Gazette's influences.

You're going to find that a lot of VK bands have songs that sound similar to Luna Sea. 
 
Also, the opening riff to Gazette's "Rage" sounds like Slipknot's "People = Shit". 

i'm never gonna stop making changes to my list so here.
like most others i also cheated, haha. ^^
 

 
 

i took this way too seriously and spent 2 days cutting the list down from 200+ shortlisted entries ._. only the first 10 are in order since it's too time-consuming to rank the rest.
 
i kept my list to 1 entry per artist (there's too much goodness~) but cheated in another way: some bands that are extremely dear to me didn't stick around long enough so i was forced to select singles for those bands XD i also realized after making my list that it's 100% vk, but i doubt it would have differed significantly even if i had ventured beyond it. overall it's representative of my taste
 

 

I googled this for you.
You may find this interesting
http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/38606/what-gave-terrific-a-positive-connotation
 
tl;dr
It is similar to how words like bad, sick, or wicked have a positive connotation in modern slang usage. But in the case of terrific, it happened in the late 1800s and the "slang" meaning eventually became the default definition. If you read older literature you can still see original uses of the word, such as "a terrific headache" or "a terrific roar".

I couldn't do a top 50, had to do the 100 and still cut out a lot I would have liked to keep. lol. They're only loosely in order of release date (starting with the oldest).
 

 
 

Let's not forget the chain of "Because":

First of all, thanks to @indigofor suggesting that we could revamp this thread just to see how old MH attendees have progressed with their tastes and simultaneously gather some new bunch to present their all-time choices inside this Japanese music spectrum.
 
As the title says already, you will have a chance to use this topsters link (since original topsters links are dead) to create a chart representing your tier 1, 2, 3...choices, depending on how much you are able to compile in terms of your Japanese favorites. And for the sake of fairness and challenge (huh?), it would be preferable to post 1 ALBUM PER ARTIST - and of course, make sure to post your jpg/png here for us to see
 
(hopefully this thread won't die soon)
 
mine (very difficult one - also, fuck my 2012 self):
 

(try to zoom or if you don't succeed, press ctrl and "+" together)
 
They are somewhat in order but I placed my picks from tier 1 choices (constant, essential) to tier 4 choices (might change, but still very memorable and enjoyable)
 
and spoilered titles (in order)  below:
 
 

1) Why are we still caring about Engrish? I have yet to find the positive record of someone utilizing COMPREHENSIBLE, FLUENT english in vk anthems around here - and since it's all about the voice of the masses: "why would they sing a song in a language they are not familiar with" is a very lazy and lethargic excuse.
 
2) Sure, preferences vary whenever it's about Manson and/or Gaga influences feeding upon new Gazette but let's stop for a moment and ponder this: isn't it basically palatable that Gazette has been one of the few mainstream VK acts to actually "break" the stereotype of visual "backwardism" we've been witnessing throughout these years...could one even fathom the fact that we still have VK bands that look like 2016 but sound like 2009 quality AND mixing-wise? Come to think of it anyway - even these oyaji groups have been discovering ways to "get with the times", whereas VK indie scene is being infested with so-called "cool" kids and their ideas of dated melomaniac pleasure a la mid-00s VK revival with no "revolutionary" progression whatsoever?
 
3) I am not gonna touch "rubbish, terrible"-comments without any elaboration either. Perhaps Gazette is not your cup of tea? So what was your contribution in this discussion again?
 
4)
 
- Wikipedia
- Easily modifiable resource pages
- Still cares about genre wankery
- IN A GODDAMN VISUAL SCENE/FANBASE
 
5) So you are saying that cancerous fandoms are EXCLUSIVELY and SOLELY related to Gazette? Wew, lad.
 
6) Even the most eager critics tend to agree with the notion that Gazette has gained recognition due to their easily recognizable antics and almost "genderbending" tendencies - just like with other Japanese genrebenders inside and outside of our beloved visual scene. Why would possibly westernized individual care about symphonic power metal outfits like X or Versailles,  low-budget mix flares of Kiryu and D, and stagnant animoo glory of Naitomea? As much as we would sympathize towards these acts as long-time VK weebs - is it really that hard to adopt opposite, "biased" views for a moment? Could you at least delve into details and convince our possible (albeit disinterested) non-VK (but yet Gazette-fanboying/girling) public that why these acts matter more in the context of international fanbase?
 
I do admit that I had my on/off-times with Gazette for a decade already, but imho it's really hard to argue against the well-functionable, internationally palatable soundscape of mostly mashing Slipknot and Luna Sea influences together. In that sense Ruki and co. were smart enough to realize what exactly was relevant for those times aside from minding their own biases.
 
 
 

Let's not forget the chain of "Because":

Let's not forget the chain of "Because":

lol i actually have a top 100 list that doubles as a foobar playlist with exactly the same condition (max 1 per artist), but it's a 'top 100 songs' list rather than 'top 100 releases'. i'll see if i can come up with the latter.

First of all, thanks to @indigofor suggesting that we could revamp this thread just to see how old MH attendees have progressed with their tastes and simultaneously gather some new bunch to present their all-time choices inside this Japanese music spectrum.
 
As the title says already, you will have a chance to use this topsters link (since original topsters links are dead) to create a chart representing your tier 1, 2, 3...choices, depending on how much you are able to compile in terms of your Japanese favorites. And for the sake of fairness and challenge (huh?), it would be preferable to post 1 ALBUM PER ARTIST - and of course, make sure to post your jpg/png here for us to see
 
(hopefully this thread won't die soon)
 
mine (very difficult one - also, fuck my 2012 self):
 

(try to zoom or if you don't succeed, press ctrl and "+" together)
 
They are somewhat in order but I placed my picks from tier 1 choices (constant, essential) to tier 4 choices (might change, but still very memorable and enjoyable)
 
and spoilered titles (in order)  below:
 
 

Reserving this space huehuehue

Made it pretty fast but I'd say it's fairly accurate for me, my taste haven't changed very much when it comes to Japanese music (VK is still what I'm here for).

First of all, thanks to @indigofor suggesting that we could revamp this thread just to see how old MH attendees have progressed with their tastes and simultaneously gather some new bunch to present their all-time choices inside this Japanese music spectrum.
 
As the title says already, you will have a chance to use this topsters link (since original topsters links are dead) to create a chart representing your tier 1, 2, 3...choices, depending on how much you are able to compile in terms of your Japanese favorites. And for the sake of fairness and challenge (huh?), it would be preferable to post 1 ALBUM PER ARTIST - and of course, make sure to post your jpg/png here for us to see
 
(hopefully this thread won't die soon)
 
mine (very difficult one - also, fuck my 2012 self):
 

(try to zoom or if you don't succeed, press ctrl and "+" together)
 
They are somewhat in order but I placed my picks from tier 1 choices (constant, essential) to tier 4 choices (might change, but still very memorable and enjoyable)
 
and spoilered titles (in order)  below: