Seelentau

Yoo, some guy is selling his entire collection on Yahoo Auction and there are some sick rarities among them:
 
GAUZE LP for 10k Yen (<100$/€) - https://ord.yahoo.co.jp/o/auction/RV=1/RU=aHR0cHM6Ly9wYWdlLmF1Y3Rpb25zLnlhaG9vLmNvLmpwL2pwL2F1Y3Rpb24vYzYzNzk3MjE2Ng--;_ylt=A7dPDiRkiiFa4zMAfFahGzx8
 
(Of course this only pops up AFTER I paid 300€ for a opy of this LP, wtf man -.-)
 
Myaku LP for 5k Yen - https://ord.yahoo.co.jp/o/auction/RV=1/RU=aHR0cHM6Ly9wYWdlLmF1Y3Rpb25zLnlhaG9vLmNvLmpwL2pwL2F1Y3Rpb24vcTE4NTE3MDMyMQ--;_ylt=A7dPDiRkiiFa4zMAdVahGzx8
 
Amakuchi, DEG in Taiwan for 10k Yen (ultra rare) - https://ord.yahoo.co.jp/o/auction/RV=1/RU=aHR0cHM6Ly9wYWdlLmF1Y3Rpb25zLnlhaG9vLmNvLmpwL2pwL2F1Y3Rpb24vZjI0NDkwMzQzNw--;_ylt=A7dPDiRkiiFa4zMAaFahGzx8

Damn I hope it is too, bb! Not sure if congrats is the right word, but congrats lol

on rakuten for 100k JPN: https://rakuma.rakuten.co.jp/item/f8336046191412134142
 
Edit: I can't see the price for the VULGAR LP, but I suppose it was even higher, considering there are only ten copies

As long as there's no special release like the Myaku LP or the -KAI- LPs, no Kisou LP should exist. But what does exist is a cassette promo tape of the album
 
Yup, a red and a black one, the latter is very rare (and cost me 6.500 JPN ._.), since it was only sold at a single concert. You can check discogs for those (and a LOT more rare DEG stuff), added and supervised by yours truly

Me too, but I'd need about ~250€ more to afford it, that's why I asked if anyone want a copy of my COWBOY WORLD or Yurameki promo tapes xD
Other than that, I don't have any means to get the money :/
 
By the way, so far I have discovered four different numbers:
00030, 00032, 00061 and 00092. But they're all in possession of other people already. Interestingly, the one on Rakuten has an unknown number, so yeah... wish I could ask the seller for a picture^^

on rakuten for 100k JPN: https://rakuma.rakuten.co.jp/item/f8336046191412134142
 
Edit: I can't see the price for the VULGAR LP, but I suppose it was even higher, considering there are only ten copies

ayy

The first press of 通常盤 sometimes will have some extras that later presses will not have, maybe a different color jacket, extra sticker etc.
 
The 4th one is usually refered to as a deluxe version afaik.
 
I think the last one doesn't mean only a different jacket, instead of the jewel case it will be released in a totally different way (look at dir's rinkaku,  sustain etc).

Hageshisa is over eight years old... holy shit o.o'

Hageshisa is over eight years old... holy shit o.o'

Hageshisa is over eight years old... holy shit o.o'

To add on what @WhirlingBlack said (by the way, you never got back to me in PMs ):
 
惨劇の夜 was initially once performed as a poem by Kyo and BGM (like INWARD SCREAM nowadays, just w/ coherent Sangeki's lyrics). According to my source, they performed 惨劇の夜 and 霧と繭 at the same time, so it's unclear if the story of "霧と繭 is a clean lyrics version of 惨劇の夜" is really true.
 
You all probably know of Re:birth, which is a fake title for an unnamed early song.
 
There is also another unnamed early song without ANY information, aside of the live recording itself. Performed on 3rd August 1998. It's 04:55 long, so I'm not sure if @WhirlingBlack means this song or a different one?
 
Then there's the early live versions of mazohyst of decadence, cage, raison detre (written in Katakana as レイズンデートル), 残-ZAN- (known as 残-ZAN- (前期型原曲 Ver.)) etc.
 
刹那 (Setsuna) would later become Unknown...Despair...a Lost.
 
The working title for JEALOUS was CAGE.
 
蜜と唾 was initially called NS1 (New Song 1), but most of the songs were called either that or 新曲, which also means "new song".
 
Oh and something that had vanished without a trace was the TWO MONSTROUS NUCLEAR STOCKPILES cassette 清水寺, by DEG's Kyo & Kaoru. It was on the internet in, I don't know, 2008? Uploaded on megaupload and other filehosters, but they all deleted it/got shut down, so at least I was never able to find it online.
So I did what any reasonable fan would do and bought it from Japan.
 
There are also a lot of demos/samplers floating around, if you want to know more about rare DEG stuff, just hmu

I just realized I was confusing Beautiful Dirt for Spilled Milk and now I’m really wondering why the fuck they chose to remake it. 

I assume, WhirlingBlack refers to this setlist, which list*ed UDaL and Setsuna. However, I have an incomplete a complete tereko w/setlist and the song after 藍紫色 is actually Re:birth.
But I must say that I've never ever heard of a cassette demo with either of the two tracks as a B-side. The only demo tapes I know of are single/album promos, the two message tapes and the Karma / Aoitsuki demo. I'd be honestly surprised if there's more^^
 
As for La:Sadie's, you refer to this one, right? I think it's actually a re-recording, though. But my collection is kinda unsorted, so I dunno^^
And yes, I was confused about the name as well. Normally, they put the tape name on the spine, but it appears that in this case, it's the name of the event where the tape was distributed at. Their official discography also gives 生命ノ罪・・・ as the name.
(Ignoring the ・・・NAME・・・ vs NAME・・・ issue, of course... seems like they could never really decide ._.)

also @ZeusComing here to set the facts about Dir en grey straight:
This is incorrect, Setsuna was a WIP project song by Dir en grey that developed over the course of 1997 (starting out as 5 minutes and evolving into a nearly 7 minute track) until finally being scrapped in the first half of 1998 for reasons unknown. Whether Setsuna was an official title or one given to it by fans is still subject to speculation.
 
"Ai Murasaki Iro" Is in fact pronounced "Ranshishoku" based on a newspaper interview which I scanned and upped some year ago from a indie magazine made in early 1998. I know this due to the fact that the name was written out in katakana. It's the onyomi pronunciation of the same kanji. They played this song at every oneman live starting from August 1997 until their last indies live at the Budokan, after which it was scrapped due to poor audience response, supposedly.
 
They  had another unreleased longer track that they played throughout the second half of 1997 and on and off into early 1998 which then subsequently disappeared as well. No known title for this track.
 
There was an early version of Mazohyst of Decadence played from 1997 which differed slightly.
 
raison detre had a early quite different  version which premiered at their oneman tour in late 1997 and evolved into it's current form during 1998.
 
ZAN is also one of the earliest songs they wrote, and it was played from their first tour in april 1997 and onwards in various stages of evolution until it arrived at the GAUZE form in late 1998.
 
Tsumi to Batsu was also performed during their last indies tour in a slightly different format.
 
They also premiered two new songs at the DUM SPIRO SPERO and Kisou part of the recent tour respectively which haven't been mentioned or played since. 
 
I could go on but I think that'll do for now.
 
 
 
 
 
 

Oh hey @Seimeisen, you're an admin here, cool I asked you about the GAUZE LP on discogs a while back, remember?
I've added SO much to DEG's discography since then, and I'm still in the process of finding more.
You said back then, the GAUZE LP was probably the holy grail of DEG, but it actually is the VULGAR LP, I'd say.
There's also this: https://item.mercari.com/jp/m278431689/ - 45k Yen is about 340€, I could've afforded it but it's long sold, of course.
But I'm in contact with a person who owns the GAUZE LP, they will send me a picture of a number soon, then I know of three confirmed copies, along with #92 and #61

Yes, I wrote her a message too, telling her about it. She has yet to take it down, though.
I didn't even know a bootleg version of the TOUR04 dvd exists, added it to discogs already.
In addition to what LIDL said, you can also check discogs for existing bootleg copies (although I have yet to add all of them).

That one on ebay is bootleg, the original limited edition with 2 Discs looks like these
 

 
 
also, the original DVD  catalog numbers are
 
SFBD-0006 for regular edition and SFBD-0004~5 for the limited 2 disc edition, by Firewall Div.
 
direngrey.co.jp/discography/432/
 
 
the bootleg one are by Miya Records, catalog numbers MIDP-0056-7
 
On online sales, make sure to ask the seller about the catalog number of CD, DVD or BluRay each time, that is clear way to find out if  a CD is genuine. 
 
Or if in person, or you wanna check if all Cds you owned and got from second hand market are genuine, you can see these catalog numbers usually on the bottom of the spine of the dvd/cd case or obi. It is usually also placed next to UPC barcode

For what it's worth, that ebay listing is a bootleg.

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/dir-en-grey-tour-04-the-code-of-vulgar-ism-/737990668-79-9595
 
bootleg

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/dir-en-grey-cds-und-dvds/729930935-78-3173
 
Hier ist die bei, frag einfach mal nach

Definitely DECAYS lmao

@Seelentau dead ass killed Batsu.
 
 
What the fuck dude.
 

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