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  1. I have done the research and GossiP is NOT a GazettE copy. 

    First, I'm making this as a status rather than a forum post, because I don't want to start a toxic forum post. If I get flamed, I'll just delete this status. 

    Second, to the main point. I hear people say GossiP is a copy of The GazettE, and I can kind of see where they're getting at, but let's look at the facts. GossiP is very influenced by the GazettE, specifically their early, heavier era. Saku's vocal style is very similar to Ruki's, and they both share similar makeup. HOWEVER, Ruki's has a more child like quality and is meant to represent insanity, whereas Saku's is more aggressive, and has influence from traditional Japanese singing/narration. While The GazettE did play around with nostalgiac Japanese elements in the early days, GossiP's full on aesthetic is basically Japanese Nostalgia (Though they have gone outside a few times, like with Psycho Pass and Darekasan Ga Koronda). What I mean by Japanese Nostalgia is basically mixing of old Japanese (Edo period to be precise) with pre-modern (Meiji restoration to 1945) elements. Like, old military outfits, calligraphy everywhere, archaic dialect, traditional houses, etc. 

    In terms of sound, that's where things really diverge. Most of GossiP's influence comes from their old band "JyuLie", which had pretty much the same sound, just sometimes with Japanese Instruments. Now what are JyuLie's influences? Well, it's mostly a mish mash of Byakura (whom they collaborated with once), The GazettE, R-Shitei, Ningen Isu, etc. In GossiP, the Byakura influence is a bit less, but you see a lot of Punk Rock and Hardcore Punk influence in GossiP. Yes, while there is a lot in The GazettE too, The GazettE is more conventional in terms of sound. GossiP kind of takes things further. Like "Baka Aho Manuke Banzai". It has a full on Hardcore Punk sound. And even in songs with direct Gazette influence, like Akudoukai Kusottare Koushinkyoku, they make it a bit more heavier, adding more metal elements. 

    Also, I have not heard a GossiP or GazettE song that use the same melodies. Also, The GazettE has a genre which I haven't seen in GossiP. Metalcore. I haven't heard a GossiP song that I would call Metalcore. Only Metalcore influenced. 

     

    So in conclusion, is GossiP is GazettE copy? Nope. Very influenced and obviously looks up to the GazettE? Definitely. I can understand though why Gaze fans may be worried. With how influential the GazettE has gotten, there are GazettE clones everywhere. GossiP however, is not one of them. 

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    2. Himeaimichu

      Himeaimichu

      I swear people are only telling me I didn't do research only just look at what I typed, but didn't read and jumped to conclusions. Either that, or actually trying to explain things to make them easier to understand is too "opinionated". I tried to make this a little easier to understand so people would know what I mean, instead of just compiling everything into a boring list. However, I tried my best not to put opinion in this. If I did, I would have went on about how I like both bands. I actually took the time to analyse the music of each band, and  to tell me that I didn't do research and just put a bunch of opinion personally offends me as not only  a person who took the time to do research and compile it, but also as a musician who plays guitar and sings, and actually does research on music genres so I know what I'm talking about.

      You want to assume I didn't do research and made only opinions? Fine, but prove it. Prove it so I can improve how I compile my research. Don't just say that it's just a bunch of opinion and no research. Actually prove why. 

    3. Karma’s Hat

      Karma’s Hat

      People were just goofing on the word research. Forreal doe that 7gatsu 8ka rip off is so blatant that the obvious fact of it being so cannot be brushed aside by finessing a wall of semantics about how it's just some vague ~influence~

    4. Himeaimichu

      Himeaimichu

      @Disposable I never said it was vague influence. I actually said there was a lot of influence, but there is also a lot of differences that set them apart. 

      And if you can come up with a Gazette song that is completely the same in both melody and composition to a GossiP song, tell me the songs and I will personally listen to them both. 

       

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