Rosner 35 Posted September 22, 2018 Really excited for this!!! To be honest, I was hoping for a more progressive and experimental album, but this in-your-face approach seems nice. Some songs seem to have mallcore riffing and even some mathcore patterns going on. I just hope there's room for laidback and atmospheric parts too and this is not just total violence. If they are going for something like 'The Marrow of a Bone' but they manage to make the heavy songs interesting, then I'm sold! So '絶縁体' is going to be an epic track? GREAT! That's exactly what I wanted. If it is like 'Vinushka' or 'Diabolo's, then I'm happy. I hope there's lots of variety on the album: that's something that I found great about 'ARCHE'. If they can pull a varied album that's 50 minutes (as speculated) long and with no filler, maybe we could be getting the best Dir en grey album in years! 'Values of Madness' sounds like 'Chain Repulsion' part 2. It's fun, weird and has a big chorus: It's very clear they were going for a more 'live songs' thing, and it really works. On the other hand, I've always loved 'THE DEEPER VILENESS' (one of the few heavy songs on 'The Marrow...' that I truly enjoy). Seems they are giving it a great treatment. '理由' has me really pumped too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evenor 1655 Posted September 22, 2018 赫 sounds so good! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelrya 145 Posted September 22, 2018 (edited) Kyo sounds better on the Ash live version than he does on the studio version lmao. The scream rapping on Values of Madness reminds me of Maximum the Hormone. The new vocals on Utafumi are fine but will take some getting used to after listening to the single a million times. It’s nice to actually be able to hear the guitar riff for once. Did they replace the guitar with synth in the Kigan intro? It’s hard to tell with the low quality. Also why does the electronic sounding intro sound so quiet in the Values of Madness sample compared to the radio edit version... I liked that stomping feel. Edited September 22, 2018 by Kelrya Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saishu 1589 Posted September 22, 2018 I love the melody in Followers, but goddammit Shinya you used that same drum pattern in Tousei and Behind a Vacant Image! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
platanity 99 Posted September 22, 2018 WOW . I LOVE THIS. it has enough quirkiness, rawness and everything. I CANT WAIT FOR WEDNESDAY. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LIDL 692 Posted September 22, 2018 Based on reactions, looks like this new album is going to be a good investment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Furik 832 Posted September 22, 2018 I’m in love. This album is going to be a treat. This might end up being their best album in a LONG time. So glad they are going back to their rawer sound. Faux VK bands just haven’t been doing it for me and Deg are doing just THAT. 1 LIDL reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelrya 145 Posted September 22, 2018 Rubbish Heap really reminds me of Suicide Season era BMTH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Egnirys cimredopyh 54 Posted September 22, 2018 Glad there are some calm songs on the second half. Aka still sounds nice, might be a good ballad 1 Envelion reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dyingmoments 19 Posted September 22, 2018 Values of madness be like “remember six ugly???” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jigsaw9 6783 Posted September 22, 2018 Not sure if this is a known fact already (couldn't find it on the last couple pages) but here are the song lengths from Tower Records: 01. 軽蔑と始まり - 00:03:12 02. Devote My Life - 00:02:46 03. 人間を被る - 00:03:44 04. Celebrate Empty Howls - 00:03:22 05. 詩踏み - 00:03:07 06. Rubbish Heap - 00:03:06 07. 赫 - 00:03:58 08. Values of Madness - 00:03:30 09. Downfall - 00:02:49 10. Followers - 00:04:40 11. 谿壑の欲 - 00:04:29 12. 絶縁体 - 00:07:20 13. Ranunculus - 00:04:24 Full length is 50 mins. Gonna skip the samples/advance track and wait for the full thing, although it's a bit hard, heh. 4 2 emmny, Envelion, LIDL and 3 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelrya 145 Posted September 22, 2018 I like how the song lengths are 6 digits just in case one of them happens to be 10 hours long lol. 1 1 1 nekkichi, nullmoon and Furik reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takadanobabaalien 3607 Posted September 22, 2018 all aboard the hype train for withering to death 2.0 2 raspberrynilla and nick reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Envelion 14 Posted September 22, 2018 First off, Thanks for sharing! I'm not sure if I'm going to be stoked on this album given the samples. (Arche will be hard to top for me) But they are just samples after all, so a good hooky chorus might change my mind. The second half of the album is definitely more my speed, though I gotta admit, the rap part in Value of Maddness had me shocked. Which one of these was "go mad"? Ya know the song everyone was saying was an "anime" song? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nekkichi 6043 Posted September 22, 2018 values of madness sounds like a very bad machiavellism reconstruct. new utafumi is bad, new kigan is awful, I'm not feeling any of the heavy tracks at all, 赫 is a nice blend of WTD and rinkaku styles. I like that 谿壑の欲 and 絶縁体 sort of aim for a macabre/kisou-era feeling (flopping band desperately trying to pull their legacy stans back again?). I hope Kaoru is proud that this is the state of their western fanbase he's p much created single-handedly* x *no ableist puns intended!! 1 1 1 Envelion, evenor and kuyashii reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wicked Teletubby 528 Posted September 22, 2018 Values of Madness had me O_O in a good way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelrya 145 Posted September 22, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, nekkichi said: values of madness sounds like a very bad machiavellism reconstruct. new utafumi is bad, new kigan is awful, I'm not feeling any of the heavy tracks at all, 赫 is a nice blend of WTD and rinkaku styles. I like that 谿壑の欲 and 絶縁体 sort of aim for a macabre/kisou-era feeling (flopping band desperately trying to pull their legacy stans back again?). I hope Kaoru is proud that this is the state of their western fanbase he's p much created single-handedly* x *no ableist puns intended!! It’s okay to like things. You should try it. Just once. Edited September 22, 2018 by Kelrya 5 2 nullmoon, Asakusa, Envelion and 4 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelrya 145 Posted September 22, 2018 30 minutes ago, Envelion said: First off, Thanks for sharing! I'm not sure if I'm going to be stoked on this album given the samples. (Arche will be hard to top for me) But they are just samples after all, so a good hooky chorus might change my mind. The second half of the album is definitely more my speed, though I gotta admit, the rap part in Value of Maddness had me shocked. Which one of these was "go mad"? Ya know the song everyone was saying was an "anime" song? Values of Madness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Egnirys cimredopyh 54 Posted September 22, 2018 Just now, Envelion said: Which one of these was "go mad"? Ya know the song everyone was saying was an "anime" song? I think they were talking about values of madness Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takadanobabaalien 3607 Posted September 22, 2018 Both Ningen wo Kaburu and Utafumi has re-recorded vocals according to the official video description 3 Rosner, Egnirys cimredopyh and Envelion reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelrya 145 Posted September 22, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Takadanobabaalien said: Both Ningen wo Kaburu and Utafumi has re-recorded vocals according to the official video description You’re right it does say that, but it’s obviously not true for NoK. Maybe only certain parts were changed. This sounds amazing. I’m loving the mathcore vibes on the second track. And 赫 sounds gorgeous. Edited September 22, 2018 by Kelrya 1 Rosner reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nick 10212 Posted September 22, 2018 How did you get access to their unlised video? 1 Monochromelove reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takadanobabaalien 3607 Posted September 22, 2018 my dad is friends with kyo 3 3 Furik, emmny, kuyashii and 3 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seelentau 884 Posted September 22, 2018 (edited) It's linked on the OHP: http://direngrey.co.jp/news/3553/ In response to below: Official homepage Edited September 22, 2018 by Seelentau 1 Kelrya reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelrya 145 Posted September 22, 2018 What does OHP stand for? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
