DIR EN GREY - TOUR16-17 FROM DEPRESSION TO ________

[Saishu 1589]

What a weird setlist. Uroko between Hotarubi and Audrey? Berry followed up by Tousei and Zakuro? 

[Wicked Teletubby 528]

and we've only got two shows left.

 

2017/07/31 【東京都】Zepp Tokyo (Additional Show)

 

01. 脈 / Myaku
02. Egnirys Сimredopyh
       +)_____ An Injection
03. Audrey
04. Chain Repulsion
05. 蛍火 / Hotarubi
06. Ain't Afraid Of Pie
07. Deity
08. MACABRE -揚羽ノ羽ノ夢ハ蛹-
09. HYDRA -666-
10. Children (Six Ugly Ver.)
11. Berry
12. 理由 / Wake
13. ザクロ / Zakuro
    Encore
14. 太陽の碧 / Taiyou No Ao
15. 【KR】Cube
16. Un Deux
17. 詩踏み / Utafumi
18. 羅刹国 / Rasetsukoku

 

Edited July 31, 2017 by Wicked Teletubby

[hotcocoa 36]

Stuck at work today, but I'm curious if they will do something special for today's show, August 3rd...

[Wicked Teletubby 528]

2017/08/03 【福岡県】BARKUP FUKUOKA

 

01. Deity
02. MACABRE -揚羽ノ羽ノ夢ハ蛹-
03. 蛍火 / Hotarubi
04. Cause Of Fickleness
05. Blockchain Repulsion
06. Audrey
07. 脈 / Myaku
08. Egnirys Сimredopyh
       +)_____ An Injection
09. HYDRA -666-
10. Children (Six Ugly Ver.)
11. Berry
12. 理由 / Wake
13. ザクロ / Zakuro
    Encore
14. Ain't Afraid To Die
14. 【KR】Cube
14. 太陽の碧 / Taiyou No Ao
14. 羅刹国 / Rasetsukoku
14. 詩踏み / Utafumi

 

Edited August 3, 2017 by Wicked Teletubby

[Saishu 1589]

So they never played Ash, huh?

[Wicked Teletubby 528]

nope. and they won't.

but the again, no promises were made, right?

Edited August 4, 2017 by Wicked Teletubby

[WhirlingBlack 1043]

It's a terrible shame. One of their best songs.

[Saishu 1589]

It's a slap in the face considering they played that wanky ass version of Children.  

 

Ash also would have been suitable for a 2012-2013 style remake if they don't want to play it as is. 

[Wicked Teletubby 528]

2017/08/05 【三重県】伊賀市文化会館

 

01. Deity
02. MACABRE -揚羽ノ羽ノ夢ハ蛹-
03. Audrey
04. Egnirys Сimredopyh
       +)_____ An Injection
05. Chain Repulsion
06. 蛍火 / Hotarubi
07. Ain't Afraid To Die
08. HYDRA -666-
09. Children (Six Ugly Ver.)
10. 脈 / Myaku
11. Larry
12. 理由 / Wake
13. ザクロ / Zakuro
    Encore
14. 太陽の碧 / Taiyou No Ao
15. 【KR】Cube
16. Sustain The Untruth
17. 羅刹国 / Rasetsukoku
18. 詩踏み / Utafumi

 

 

MACABRE tour is now over.

thanks everyone.

see you in less than a month for a Withering To Death. tour.

[Pretsy 1343]

Quite a shame to see Dir suddenly politicizing - or should I say politically antagonizing -  their visual aesthetics as of now (not that they had not done it before but in less noticeable fashion).

 

What a way to kill a part of your fanbase due to otherwise irrelevant "hot takes" you had to throw out of your chest just for more extra virtue points from your [a knot] fanbase.

 

Sigh.

 

 

[blacktooth 227]

What do you mean by politicizing/antagonizing?

[Furik 832]

Yes for Children six ugly version. ❤️❤️❤️

[Pretsy 1343]

5 hours ago, blacktooth said:

What do you mean by politicizing/antagonizing?

Read Kyotakumrau's reports on a couple of their latest lives and what they actually decided to add into BG visuals.

 

Even much worse than "Scream for the truth" or whatever they low-key campaigned for (while simultaneously trying to distance themselves from that after flopping) back in 2011

[WhirlingBlack 1043]

Are you referring to the tibetan independence stuff during ain't afraid to die?

[Pretsy 1343]

1 hour ago, WhirlingBlack said:

Are you referring to the tibetan independence stuff during ain't afraid to die?

Not just that tbh (read her reports further).

 

I am criticizing their use of sensitive, more likely antagonizing topics (e.g. their shtick subject, abortion, is also sensitive but it is not aimed to antagonize on a national/country basis). With their their current state of popularity, aping western acts with sudden pseudo-progressive politicking won't do good for them in regards to much needed  positive exposure around the globe, or Asia tbe.

 

But once again, I think Kyo is to blame for this, since he really insists on being borderline ultranationalist with his current talking points - or "lyrical" points without considering the current atmosphere (e.g. MERRY is yet safe with their antics in spite of questionable Taisho goofing). Hoping he realizes that this will merely backfire.

 

 

Edited August 6, 2017 by Alroy

[Saishu 1589]

I don't think Kyo gives a shit. Probably never has. 

[Karma’s Hat 3107]

I don't... think anyone cares for that matter

[Pretsy 1343]

Maybe in MH none of us would be that offended. At least consider those who use other channels and know a bit about thing as "artistic integrity"(although with DT alone it is safe to assume they have none).

 

Tasteless and ignorant move, enough said.

 

[nekkichi 6043]

blonde Kaoru looking like shit is a way bigger problem than whatever failed political message they've been trying to squeeze over this tour

[Saishu 1589]

Artists use their preferred medium to present thought provoking/evocative/controversial/whatever messages all the time. Kyo & Co. aren't the first and they certainly won't be the last. And considering this is the same band with the vocalist that promised to one day fuck our parents as well as rape our daughters on our graves, I REALLY don't think they're concerned with offending anyone. 

 

Also, if they were worried about killing off their fan base, they never would have recorded DSS. 

[blacktooth 227]

I get what you're saying now. I've always felt Kyo was just more edgy than political because most of his imagery is just shock value and not necessarily parts of a cohesive political statement. Aside from Scream 4 Truth (lol) to me their boldest stance was the Vinushka video, which I have to say actually added to the theme and emotion of the song. 

 

Also Kaoru looks like an idiot. 

[Saishu 1589]

Kaoru is often the one that makes the questionable fashion choices. 

 

I mean seriously...

 

 

 

[blacktooth 227]

I actually like that wacky vk-era stuff. Nowadays I think he's just having a midlife crisis. Even though it was during Peak Chug, I think he looks best when he was doing that Tony Iommi thing for a few years. 

[Pretsy 1343]

@SaishuYou do know that whenever artists (of any field - arts, music, video games etc etc.) are still bound by their societal responsibilities : if the subject seeded in their controversial acts is *problematic* and their interpretation is dangerously leaning to either side of the spectrum (globally, not locally), as seen by their diverse base of supporters, people are entitled to call them out for that. "They don't give a shit" will not do it anymore. How do you expect one side to respect them anymore if they acknowledge that their idols loathe their existence, history, culture, etc., instead of just being neutral or moderately sympathetic about the whole thing?

 

For the record: Dir fanbase amasses both dedicated, racist Yasukuni worshipers (in their country), as well as people in the Chinese region that are targeted by such bigotry. Let that sink in. You think the latter party is quite pleased to see that Dir is obviously partisan of Japanese "Nanking never happened"-denialism (although never directly admitting it, but signs are always obvious), hence almost exclusively pandering to that side of their fanbase? You really think this will not backfire?

 

Gazette and similar chaps did also participate in this kind of politi-controversial nationalist circus back in the day for the sake of shock value, but they never aimed to carry on further with such tongue-in-cheek antics and eventually became neutral for given reasons as of now. They grew up, they acknowledged their responsibilities as artists - Kyo still doesn't, it seems.

 

Not just we and tumblr are able to read live reports - this is in the interests of other foreign fanbases too (thru other channels than MH), and vast disappointment is bound to be expected and justified at this point.

Edited August 6, 2017 by Alroy

[rekzer 599]

Well this thread has escalated quickly O.O

 

Like many stated. I dont think the band/kyo gives a shit if you or anyone gets triggered.

 

They're getting old and will try their best to stay relevant. They're not the first and most certainly won't be the lasts to tackle such so called "sensitive" topics.

 

And the fans know what they're in for.

 

Can't wait for these DVDs