CAT5 9075 Posted January 30, 2016 Why not take two friendly bands and pit them against one another? I thought this might make for an interesting match up, so let's go! We've got the legendary Plastic Tree who have been around for over 20 years, and then THE NOVEMBERS, who are a bit younger (they've been active for a little over 10 years) but well-respected. Both bands are loosely associated with shoegaze, but whereas Plastic Tree has been a mainstay for overseas VK fans, THE NOVEMBERS has been prominently favored by overseas. 'J-indie' fans. Which band do you prefer, and why? Just to make it tougher for fans of both Ryutaro Arimura (PLASTIC TREE) & Yusuke Kobayashi (THE NOVEMBERS)Plastic Tree vs.THE NOVEMBERS 6 plastic_rainbow, Original Saku, yakihiko and 3 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beni 2149 Posted January 30, 2016 Neat band battle, so many baes. Approved.While I do like some THE NOVEMBERS here and then, don't get me wrong, but, Plastic Tree are my favourite band for many reasons and have been since I got into J-music. No contest here for me. : 3 Edit: Damn it, that added option. XD 3 CAT5, Delkmiroph and yakihiko reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CAT5 9075 Posted January 30, 2016 Neat band battle, so many baes. Approved. While I do like some THE NOVEMBERS here and then, don't get me wrong, but, Plastic Tree are my favourite band for many reasons and have been since I got into J-music. No contest here for me. : 3 Live footage of @beni listening to Plastic Tree: 1 beni reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chi 2624 Posted January 30, 2016 Never got into Plastic Tree and THE NOVEMBERS' music is like the holy bible in mp3 so thats my vote 1 CAT5 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plastic_rainbow 2162 Posted January 30, 2016 CAT WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO MEEEEEE these two bands are like my all time top favoritesss i'm gonna have to choose plastic tree though since i've known them longer and they've carried me throughout my youth hood up to now. plus, i love ryutaro's voice over anybody else, not sorry. 2 odrep and CAT5 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaolan974 6185 Posted January 30, 2016 I voted Plastic Tree. One of my first Visual band 10 years ago. Even if I don't listem too much lately, I have a lot of memories with them. I can't really get into THE NOVEMBERS. I tried and I tried. They are good and I like some songs but, I don't know. This is the proof that feelings and tastes are most important and relevant concerning music I guess. 1 CAT5 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tokage 5930 Posted January 30, 2016 I tried to pick one particular favorite, but i felt chunks of my brain starting to melt out through my nose as i was trying to make up my mind, so i'm just gonna pick both :^) 3 CAT5, odrep and Chi reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Delkmiroph 1649 Posted January 30, 2016 I voted Plastic tree, of course. They have so many history and its strong band, without enter in so many details becuase i will write one book saying all about. I like THE NOVEMBERS, but i see that they are starting now (I know that 10 years is so long time) and them will be awesome in over the years like pura. I really dont like compare pura with novembro, but its a exception (: 2 CAT5 and yakihiko reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bear 1817 Posted January 30, 2016 Plastic Tree. Their discography is very uneven, but their 3-4 best albums are fantastic. The Novembers never did it for me because of the vocals. It's one of very few bands where I can't look past the vocals no matter how good the music is. 1 CAT5 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CAT5 9075 Posted January 30, 2016 The Novembers never did it for me because of the vocals. It's one of very few bands where I can't look past the vocals no matter how good the music is. I have the exact problem, but it's the opposite for me. Despite my efforts, it's been pretty difficult for me to get into Ryutaro's vocals. As a whole, Plastic Tree definitely seems solid, and they have some pleasant melodies here and there, but the vocals are just not my cup of tea. I went with THE NOVEMBERS. I don't really care for the first half of their discography, but the latter half has made them one of my favorite bands. 2 Bear and Original Saku reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
emmny 4139 Posted January 30, 2016 im pretty sure if i spent my time with the novembers, they'd outrank pura because of their darker sound but pura remind of the reason i loved indie rock so much when i was younger, so pura it is. 1 odrep reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yakihiko 1480 Posted January 30, 2016 I go for THE NOVEMBERS, I enjoy Koba more, sorry Delk ...but I had to vote Lycaon... X'DD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tokage 5930 Posted January 30, 2016 Both bands definitely have vocalists with somewhat of an ''acquired taste''-type of vocal delivery.. I feel like Ryutaro's sort of been heading down the Riki Kinoshita road lately, hope he doesn't fully go down that path lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
odrep 68 Posted January 30, 2016 Can't pick favorites so I voted for both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Delkmiroph 1649 Posted January 30, 2016 I go for THE NOVEMBERS, I enjoy Koba more, sorry Delk ...but I had to vote Lycaon... X'DD Não desculpo NãO: u lost one gift req that u post hahahaah * sendo maldita. Can't pick favorites so I voted for both. 3 Chi, yakihiko and odrep reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Original Saku 1593 Posted January 31, 2016 Ah man this is a tough one xD I love both of these bands, so I'm gonna vote both in the poll. If I had to choose one over the other with no exceptions tho... I would have to go with Pura since I've been listening to them for over 10 years now and they're one of the bands I can trace my love of Japanese music roots to, whereas the Novembers I've only been following for like 5 years and I was already an avid fan of Jmusic by the time I caught wind of them. Awesome choices for a band battle though! 3 Chi, odrep and plastic_rainbow reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Delkmiroph 1649 Posted January 31, 2016 @Del 1 yakihiko reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yakihiko 1480 Posted January 31, 2016 Não desculpo NãO: u lost one gift req that u post hahahaah * sendo maldita. Não seja malvada migo...Te pago um meet&greet com a Inês Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Delkmiroph 1649 Posted January 31, 2016 Não seja malvada migo... Te pago um meet&greet com a Inês Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jigsaw9 6783 Posted January 31, 2016 Both bands have some brilliant and some awfully boring material, but Plastic Tree is a bit closer to my heart, so I have to go with them. I enjoyed more albums from their catalogue than THE NOVEMBERS, even though PT hasn't offered anything particularly listenable to me for the past 5 years... Still, the good ones will forever remain with me. 1 CAT5 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Delkmiroph 1649 Posted January 31, 2016 Both bands have some brilliant and some awfully boring material, but Plastic Tree is a bit closer to my heart, so I have to go with them. I enjoyed more albums from their catalogue than THE NOVEMBERS, even though PT hasn't offered anything particularly listenable to me for the past 5 years... Still, the good ones will forever remain with me. Jig Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TetsuAkira 289 Posted February 1, 2016 Ghost was one of the songs that got me into plastic tree! Love it. Have to vote for them, I've invested a large amount of time into their discography, I really like THE NOVEMBERS too but PT way more 1 Delkmiroph reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hiroki 5521 Posted February 1, 2016 i've listened to very little of THE NOVEMBERS so this might be slightly unfair, but i'm voting for plastic tree because Nega to Poji is one of the best vk albums imo and very difficult to beat. also, even in plastic tree's very early releases (e.g. Strange fruits) i could find tracks i like - which is a rarity (for me) among bands whose careers span 15-20 years lol. 3 Delkmiroph, CAT5 and plastic_rainbow reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pretsy 1343 Posted February 1, 2016 Generally speaking NOVEMBERS managed to have a balanced, cohesive repertoire until now, whereas PT unfortunately falls short due to the massive amount of fillers and incoherent nonsense they have mustered in their catalogue. The latter was in fact one of my very first Japanese bands, but yet still - I will cast my vote for Koba and co.. Sorry Pura, you are not that different from those with "VK syndrome" (inconsistency, unfinished experiments etc.) Also: I didn't bust NOVEMBERS for paying "blatant tributes" (i.e. plagiarism) to their influences so far, unlike in Pura's case (another unfortunate VK trait). Aside from that, Ryutaro's anemic vox are getting more and more painful to listen to. : | Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
