sai 868 Posted May 28, 2011 Awesome! And: So my thoughts on seeing it in the PV Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D.L.S 11 Posted May 31, 2011 I love it and yes the pv was very strange and hard to follow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peace Heavy mk II 7200 Posted May 31, 2011 I honestly didn't think it was that hard to follow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShanethVarosa 1209 Posted May 31, 2011 I honestly didn't think it was that hard to follow. This. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sai 868 Posted May 31, 2011 The end was kinda confusing though. That's the part I didn't get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D.L.S 11 Posted May 31, 2011 I honestly didn't think it was that hard to follow. Did she get younger and become older again after or did she get the mask when she was younger? That's what I don't really understand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peace Heavy mk II 7200 Posted June 1, 2011 I think the mask is only used as some sort of nostalgia portal, causing her to go back to the day where she went to the masquerade and met Versailles for the first time. Then when she takes the mask off, she stops day dreaming and goes back to sleep on her rocking chair. The second girl is probably her granddaughter and picks up the flowers and returns to the ball to keep the cycle going. I think the key thing to know about Versailles Pvs (not that they really make all that much sense to begin with) is that they are heavily focused on repetition and infinite cycles. For example, the roses that the blond girl got in the video didn't die decades later and were passed on to another generation (which I assumed was so she could continue the cycle). They've used this same idea in earlier songs as well: "The Love from a Dead Orchestra" has lyrics about how Kamijo cannot be killed; "The Revenant Choir" has lines like "Our clan's blood will not stop forever;" and the end of the Jubilee album is an instrumental that sounds like it could be the introduction to the first track to give listening to it a continuous feel. Granted this isn't their best example of plot continuity and non-japanese-viewer-friendlyness, I think they were going for the same idea. I heard from someone who is trying to translate all of their songs into English and then piece them together so the whole story makes sense that "The Revenant Choir" is the start of the story and "Sympathia" is what would be the end if it weren't recursive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D.L.S 11 Posted June 1, 2011 That sounds right. Thanks for clearing that up for me. And I know who you are talking about and I hope that she finishes that project because it would be very interesting to read. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sai 868 Posted June 1, 2011 Thanks, that made a lot more sense to me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShanethVarosa 1209 Posted June 2, 2011 I think the mask is only used as some sort of nostalgia portal, causing her to go back to the day where she went to the masquerade and met Versailles for the first time. Then when she takes the mask off, she stops day dreaming and goes back to sleep on her rocking chair. The second girl is probably her granddaughter and picks up the flowers and returns to the ball to keep the cycle going.I think the key thing to know about Versailles Pvs (not that they really make all that much sense to begin with) is that they are heavily focused on repetition and infinite cycles. For example, the roses that the blond girl got in the video didn't die decades later and were passed on to another generation (which I assumed was so she could continue the cycle). They've used this same idea in earlier songs as well: "The Love from a Dead Orchestra" has lyrics about how Kamijo cannot be killed; "The Revenant Choir" has lines like "Our clan's blood will not stop forever;" and the end of the Jubilee album is an instrumental that sounds like it could be the introduction to the first track to give listening to it a continuous feel. Granted this isn't their best example of plot continuity and non-japanese-viewer-friendlyness, I think they were going for the same idea. I heard from someone who is trying to translate all of their songs into English and then piece them together so the whole story makes sense that "The Revenant Choir" is the start of the story and "Sympathia" is what would be the end if it weren't recursive. I absolutely love the fact that they use repetition and cycles and all that stuff. For some reason it really makes me happy. The idea that Jubilee's art was a clock was fantastic to me. How when it's played in a loop you don't really know where the start and end is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D.L.S 11 Posted June 2, 2011 I don't know if anyone noticed but behind the discs of the limited version the clocks have a 13 instead of 1 and I thought that was the coolest thing when I got the cd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sai 868 Posted June 2, 2011 I only have the regular edition D: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corronum 13 Posted June 10, 2011 I really, really want to like Versailles. There's quite a few songs that always float back into my head, but unfortunately they're older tunes. None of the newer stuff ( or rather, anything after Lyrical Sympathy) really grabs my attention and it's a shame. It all just melds into one big blob of solos and orchestral pieces. I keep hoping that after a few playthroughs something new will grow on me. The new singles did nothing for me, but I don't want to give up on them just yet... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sai 868 Posted June 10, 2011 ^You didn't like Jubilee :/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Number Girl 48 Posted June 10, 2011 Loving the sig, Sai. Kamijo is so mean!!! xD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yasupon 18 Posted June 11, 2011 Love Versailles but still get a bit upset / annoyed about Jasmine You's death when I hear their newer stuff, which still sounds pretty good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sai 868 Posted June 11, 2011 Haha, thanks Cibicco I thought the exact same thing when I saw the comment video! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masamune 72 Posted June 11, 2011 That may be the best comment i've seen. Lol, Teru's scream is so funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sai 868 Posted June 11, 2011 Other favourites are the one where Jasmine pours water out of a bottle in Yuki's mouth, Hizaki forgetting to point twice, and Kamijo pushing Teru to the floor lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corronum 13 Posted June 13, 2011 ^You didn't like Jubilee :/That one was a bit better for me, but I still don't have a whole load of favorites from it. I just know that nothing from Noble or the new singles has yet to grab my attention. This might be fixed by a few more listens, though. Sometimes, if I keep trying things out, I'll find a hook. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acchan 0 Posted June 18, 2011 AAAAAA..... Faith and Decision is just awesome.... I play the whole album again and again for these 4 days Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yasupon 18 Posted June 18, 2011 AAAAAA.....Faith and Decision is just awesome.... I play the whole album again and again for these 4 days QFT... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spectralion 394 Posted June 18, 2011 AAAAAA.....Faith and Decision is just awesome.... I play the whole album again and again for these 4 days I think, Faith and Decision are just became two separate song... but, overall I love the new album... Masashi's bass sound making a whole band sound different... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corronum 13 Posted June 18, 2011 Tried out Holy Grail...wasn't that impressed except for Dry Ice Scream (I have weird tastes, I know) , which actually sounded -different- The engrish in Love will be born again cracked me up too much for me to pay attention to it. Sorry, Kamijo, but excessive english from you is as bad as Juka's falsettos in VII-Sense...except in The Revenant Choir, that was tolerable. =) I'll settle for Lyrical Sympathy and Jubilee for now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sai 868 Posted June 21, 2011 I can't seem to get through it after 1 time. Maybe because I'm more into Alice Nine. now...or that I'm disappointed it's not as good as JUBILEE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
